focus to the next button in the group, or would it move
to the next control that wasn't a member of the group?
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should do what the original code does. If somebody gets a time
machine up and running and goes back to 2003, well, they'll see the
version of the site from back then anyway, so that's OK :-)
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block, giving the illusion of repeat-y in the case of an image like
this.
(Similarly, a block with the correct height could be used to mimic
repeat-x.)
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Generally though I think it looks extremely good :-)
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Andy Clarke's Transcending CSS - worth getting even if only to look
at :-) http://www.transcendingcss.com/
Dan Cederholm's Bulletproof Web Design http://www.simplebits.com/
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by another fifteen
years of software development including a stint at a human factors
and usability research institute, I thought the book was well worth
reading when I finally got around to it late last year.
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button type=submitSearch/button
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NOW it's valid ;-)
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On 12 Apr 2007, at 13:34:06, Patrick Lauke wrote:
I'm not making assumptions. I'm saying that, for sighted users,
having a text input box
is incorrect. [3]
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#adef-id
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#control-name
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#edef-INPUT
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On 19 Apr 2007, at 12:03:22, liorean wrote:
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Name and ID serve two different purposes. ID is used to identify the
element's node in the document [1]. Name is used to identify the
element's value in the form submission posted back
. Despite Internet
Explorer's inexplicable belief to the contrary, id and name are
not the same thing.
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On 22 Apr 2007, at 16:28:16, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
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Despite Internet Explorer's inexplicable belief to the contrary,
id and name are not the same thing.
Care to elaborate on what the issues in IE are?
Using getElementById(someValue) on IE will return an element
On 24 Apr 2007, at 13:07:42, al morris wrote:
IE 7 now supports the *html hack, so the 'position: relative' style
is being
applied.
IE7 doesn't support * html:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/02/460115.aspx
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on a misunderstanding of
the type of parser used by the validator, and the limitations of that
parser.
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On 29 Apr 2007, at 16:14:41, Sagnik Dey wrote:
But a background image can't adjust to a varied length of Text :)
But with a little bit of magic...
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors2/
:-)
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in the validator (in which case
I'll file a bug report), or am I missing something?
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looking in the wrong place and a hunt through
the WP code shows that the post metadata displays the post title
without passing it through the apply-filters() function.
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the accessibility of
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On 10 May 2007, at 16:10:55, Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
On the other hand, screen-readers are generally configured by
default to always read out the expansion of text marked up as an
abbreviation (that is, the contents of the title attribute), so
using abbr (or the non-standard acronym
it written up over the weekend
and post a link back here, to give those interested a fuller
understanding of what appears to be going on in the bowels of the
browser.
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On 10 May 2007, at 16:55:01, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
From: Nick Fitzsimons
On the other hand, screen-readers are generally configured by
default to always read out the expansion of text marked up as an
abbreviation (that is, the contents of the title attribute), so
using abbr
from other browsers (including IE 7).
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Dictionary, which is
generally regarded as the canonical source:
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/initialism
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to handle these matters. Ah well, having to think about it is what
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that are
currently only available in the nightly builds, then it will be a
great step forward for both Konqueror and Safari.
I really wish we didn't have to wait for Leopard before getting a
stable version of Safari containing all the good stuff that's been
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they don't appear to have the same
worries over recommending dangerous rubbish like Microsoft's browser
for Windows...)
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of the form, properly
enclosed in a fieldset, needs a chunk of explanatory text, then find
something brief and meaningful for the legend - or even leave the
legend empty - and present the explanatory text in a paragraph.
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Although it might be important from an accessibility perspective that
an unsighted user be able to say the third one on that page without
having to count the preceding list items - hmm, now that's something
to think about..
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Although it might be important from an accessibility perspective
that an unsighted user be able to say the third one on that page
without having to count the preceding list items - hmm, now that's
something
written about it more in my reply to
Patrick Lauke, and I'm beginning to think that the accessibility
aspect could be quite important here. Then again, I'm up very late :-)
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to be toned down considerably when I was working in a
studio with the designers, including the owner of the company, but
generally this process has worked well for me for several years :-)
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On 25 May 2007, at 01:08:49, Rebecca Cox wrote:
On 5/23/07, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As an aside, note that screen readers will read the legend of a
fieldset before the label of every element in the fieldset, so
legends should be kept short and sweet
This is interesting, just
sizes weights,
colours and spacing with CSS.
If there will only ever be one introductory paragraph per page, then
you could use p id=introduction instead.
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I saw Dan Cederholm's presentation at the @media conference in San
Francisco yesterday.
Have you asked Dan about it? He doesn't bite, as far as I've seen :-)
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the abbreviation on
every occurrence. (As the number of qualifying modifiers in that
sentence probably reveals, I'm not sure.)
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I wonder how they treat their dentists...
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So address should be used for providing contact information such as
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On 29 May 2007, at 02:10:02, Sander Aarts wrote:
I'm glad the designers I work with know that rounded corners can be
a real pain in the ass, so they always ask before implementing them
in the design.
I want your designers! ;-)
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Excel (which is, judging by the manufacturer's FAQs, one of its
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The topic under discussion is, as I mentioned in my earlier post,
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But there's then little point in communicating this fact to a list
about Web Stanbdards, as you are clearly advocating something
which is in breach of said standards.
Steady on, Nick. If he wasn't here you wouldn't
On 5 Jun 2007, at 19:15:39, Designer wrote:
Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
This is a common misconception. IE7 _cannot_ resize text whose
size is specified in pixels, in precisely the same way that IE6
can't.
The use of the page zoom tool will enlarge or shrink it along with
the other content
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installation, making
testing for the future while browsing in the present much easier.
(That doesn't apply to Windows, obviously, although I assume the
nightly will co-exist with the beta - can't be bothered to open up
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salesperson, and ask
yourself if you are right to believe that acting in such a manner towards
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We're not psychic, and just saying broken in IE7 tells us precisely
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remember all the ins and outs
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to 20px, assuming browser starts
at 16px */
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div#wrapper {
font-size: 50%; /* and back down to 10px */
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and took it from there :-)
(Still falls foul of a minimum font-size set in the browser
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On 3 Aug 2007, at 20:14:59, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
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(Still falls foul of a minimum font-size set in the browser
preferences, though.)
I wouldn't say it falls foul. If a user has set a minimum size,
then a page should heed that. It still *respects* minimum font-size
.
On a brand-new, never-run Windows XP SP 2 install (gotta love
Parallels): download and run Opera, minimum font size is 9px.
So it looks like somebody at Opera goofed, either in writing that
document, or in not keeping it updated.
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size 20px - AHAH!
minimum font size 9px.
I'm now going to make my dinner and won't be thinking about font
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On 19/9/07 (15:17) Kenny said:
Yup. It's a list of values.
Thanks for that Kenny.
Even before posting the question I had started to code the 'Values'
as a
list, but then ran into difficulty styling it -- the vertically
expandable box requires
of a list of statements, which is basically what this is.
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for the pub :-)
However you can go into work on Monday, point at your colleague and
laugh maniacally while shouting U haz fail very loudly (or whatever
the etiquette in your workplace permits) because (s)he's wrong :-D
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On 11 Oct 2007, at 10:58, Joseph Ortenzi wrote:
Thanks Karl, but the pubstandards group appears to have withered
away and died, unfortunately. at least the UK one.
Erm...
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/290703/
Next pubstandards UK meetup is next Thursday :-)
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And if you _do_ learn anything, don't expect to remember it the next
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i did not put the pdf icon (don't know where to get one)
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On 16 Oct 2007, at 08:40, dwain wrote:
i did not put the pdf icon (don't know where to get one)
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thanks, i found one. where do i put this icon before or after the
link
://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/07/the-
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Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
Word boundaries aren't right either; for exmple, they will match a
hyphen, so matching on some-thing will match some-thing-else. As
per the
HTML spec, class names are space-separated, so you need to match on
spaces
and line number will put you at
the place that the error occurred. You can set a breakpoint there and
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On 18 Oct 2007, at 15:49, Anders Nawroth wrote:
IMHO captchas are used too much, as they suck considerably!
And they are also frowned upon by the W3C because of their
inaccessibility, and the fact that they provide a false sense of
security:
http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/
. In addition, a few second level domain
names reserved for use as examples are documented.
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt
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remove it.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/attributes.html is a quick way to
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is the sole determiner of what constitutes accurate
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if you don't have Microsoft Word installed:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/CD102258581033.aspx
Maybe somebody with access to Outlook 2007 can compare the two to see
if they are comparable.
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, so that users of such assistive technologies would be able to use
the page.
HTH,
Nick.
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Could somebody enlighten me as to what any of these irrelevant ramblings
about a marketing buzzphrase have to do with Web Standards?
NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to
degenerate into pretentious drivel mode...
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model which prevents it from rendering the contents of the
head element. So it's IE that's odd :-)
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Nick.
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assist it when the file is opened for editing at a later time. Use the
Save for Web and Devices dialog instead and it will create much smaller
files.
HTH,
Nick.
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everything in the document. (It can still be of value without impairing
rendering efficiency unduly when applied at a more specific level, e.g.
#example p *.)
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Nick.
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