Re: [WSG] commonly used order of styles within a css class

2004-09-04 Thread Paul Novitski
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:19:12 +1200, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there is a common way of listing styles in CSS? ... For example, perhaps the font and inline information is first, the block, padding and margin information next, and then the positioning. Sean, I've seen more

Re: [WSG] Overflow on select or options

2004-09-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:47 PM 9/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want the text to overflow if the value of the option is greater than the width... select, option { width: 250px; overflow: visible; } Taco, I think the default for most browsers is to render the select list widely enough to

Re: [WSG] Overflow on select or options

2004-09-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:09 PM 9/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a default width, i.e. all selects to be 250px, if there is overflow I want to see it... Taco, I think I accomplished your goal simply by nesting the select list inside a div with a constrained width and overflow: hidden:

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 06:22 PM 9/19/2004, Amit Karmakar wrote: What is better in terms of semantics and accessibility? div id=footer pstuff | more stuffbr / stuff too | more stuff again/p /div or div id=footer ullistuff/li | limore stuff/li listuff too/li | limore stuff again/li/ul /div Amit, I suppose you need to

Re: [WSG] CSS rules quirks database

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:00 PM 9/23/2004, Tony Aslett wrote: I created a list of CSS properties and browsers that support them Excellent work, Tony. Are you storing this in an SQL database? I'd like to see some other layers of information added to a database such as yours.

Re: [WSG] Are empty divs okay?

2004-09-29 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:35 AM 9/29/2004, Shane Helm wrote: I have some empty div tags to be able to make a graphic a background image since this presentation is common to all pages. For example in my html: div id=header3/div My CSS for header3 is as follows: #header3 { position: relative;

Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth?

2004-10-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:19 PM 10/4/2004, Parker Torrence wrote: Yes you can section 10.2 see DEPRECATED EXAMPLE: which is: UL LI ... Level one, number one... OL LI ... Level two, number one... LI ... Level two, number two... OL start=10

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

2004-10-05 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:26 AM 10/5/2004, Rick Faaberg wrote: But if those data are coming from a database and are being output via a script language for example, I think a table is the most convenient way to present the data and the buttons. It boggles my small intellect to think about outputting CSS positioning

Re: [WSG] anchors within a page

2004-10-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:05 PM 10/6/2004, john wrote: I want to put a top of page link in the footer of one of my sites, so instead of using the a name= tag, I a href= to one of my ID's. The problem is, I've used z-index in the CSS so that the header and nav stay put when scrolling...but it doesn't work in IE.

Re: [WSG] Sometimes you just cant help people ...

2004-11-24 Thread Paul Novitski
Since navigation presents a jargon problem, perhaps menu or another less techie term might work: Skip past menu Jump over menu What's an appropriate metaphor for a navigation menu if you're not a programmer and if your interaction with the menu is functional auditory and not

Re: [WSG] Info on correct semantics

2004-12-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:10 AM 12/3/04, Michael Vogt wrote: Some days ago I had a short discussion with a colleague about a display bug in (surprise) IE. The solution he found was to replace all tags (except html, head, body I guess) with span and style the layout with CSS. He really means it, and he was proud that

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:03 AM 12/6/04, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: *Don't* use onkeypress, as Mozilla browsers - and rightly so - treat a TAB as a keypress as well. Using onkeypress makes it impossible for users to TAB beyond that particular link. Isn't it true that, if one did use onkeypress, the attached event

RE: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:11 AM 12/6/04, Ted Drake wrote: I'm a bit confused by the (this.href) code. Should I replace that with the page in the href= section or is it looking back at the href and use that url? -Original Message- From: Veine K Vikberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] a

Re: [WSG] New Windows

2004-12-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:11 AM 12/6/04, Felix Miata wrote: Fresh meat: Yes, but only 605 respondents?! Yikes, that's a small sample. Nielsen's results, satisfying as they are to one allergic to commercialism, would carry more weight if the sample size were

Re: [WSG] Site Critique - do your worst...

2004-12-09 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:19 AM 12/9/04, Sam Hutchinson wrote: ...I can take it because I value the opions of users of this list :) Sam, Action Transport looks like a great project! Here are some very quick comments: I suggest making the left-hand

Re: Off with your JS (was Re: [WSG] Best approach (new question))

2004-12-10 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:02 AM 12/10/04, Tom Livingston wrote: But I can't help wondering if these things, and others mentioned, are done by people who *know* about these things. In my mind, that is a small minority. Most likely only developers. Do the 'Bob-The-Office-Worker', and the 'Mary-The-Surfing-Homemaker'

Re: [WSG] A standards compliant remake.

2004-12-10 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:16 PM 12/10/04, Chris Stratford wrote: Just thought I would show off my little standards compliant remake. that was the original crappy thing. I remade it to this: The site works

Re: [WSG] Class -vs- ID

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 06:23 PM 1/12/05, Chris Stratford wrote: I was asked for the first time yesterday, what the big difference and advantage to using an ID over a CLASS was... Chris, With regard to our intentions as scripters, what you and everyone else has said applies: ids are unique, classes are generic, and

Re: [WSG] Popups

2005-01-13 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:58 AM 1/13/05, Jeffrey Hardy wrote: ... Here's an example of a call to with the 'properties' argument:, '_blank', 'width=500, height=500, menubar=no'); return false; Nice summary, Jeff. One correction: you're not supposed to embed spaces in the

RE: [WSG] Popups

2005-01-13 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:20 PM 1/13/05, Seona Bellamy wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Novitski Subject: Re: [WSG] Popups Also, while it's convenient to insert javascript event handlers into HTML markup when demonstrating an example, in practice it's probably best

Re: [WSG] Two CSS Question

2005-01-13 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:14 PM 1/13/05, Carl Reynolds wrote: If I have a section of HTML that is the same in all my files, is there a way to put it in a file by itself and include it into each page? Carl, Here are two ways (I'll be interested to learn about others): 1) Use a server-side scripting language such as

Re: [WSG] Popups (plus, standards-based event handling)

2005-01-13 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:39 PM 1/13/05, Ben Curtis wrote: Also, while it's convenient to insert javascript event handlers into HTML markup when demonstrating an example, in practice it's probably best to leave the script out of the markup and apply it from a separate script file at window.onload. One beef I have

Re: [WSG] how to mark up h3 header for list

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:50 PM 1/27/2005, Bruce Gilbert wrote: I don't think w3c standards will allow mark-up this way, so I was wondering the best way to mark up a header for a list. looking for standards, and accessibility. what I currently have is: div id=list1 ul class=navlist h3Most Requested/h3

Re: [WSG] how to mark up h3 header for list

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:37 PM 1/27/2005, Rene Saarsoo wrote: Why not use a definition list: dl dtHeading/dt dd ul liitem1/li liitem2/li liitem3/li /ul /dd /dl Using some Hx for list heading when there actually doesn't exist a level for that heading doesn't make much sense... just pollutes

Re: [WSG] Building with scaling in mind

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:30 PM 1/27/2005, Tom Livingston wrote: I was admiring I think it's a beautiful layout. But I am having a problem wrapping my head around the concept behind building a page like that so that when text is scaled, the containers don't get all messed up. On, the

Re: [WSG] Emulating min-width

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:19 PM 1/30/2005, David R wrote: I'm just looking for comments on a concept I thought for emulating min-width in IE: div id=elementToHaveMinWidth pContent/p div id=minWidthMaker / /div #elementToHaveMinWidth { width: 40%; } #minWidthMaker { width: 620px; } David, From the perspective

Re: [WSG] First Thoughts On Layout...

2005-01-30 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:22 PM 1/30/2005, Chris Stratford wrote: ... Also the Dates on the right side of the titles, I used a method like this: dtTitle Here emdate here/em/dt so without styles, the title and date are easy to differentiate and also - it gives me the em tag to position the date :) Chris, I think

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-09 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:33 PM 2/9/2005, Lachlan Hardy wrote: Something which no one has mentioned is the possible accessibility benefits of the extra spacing following the period. My thoughts are that the extra spacing will more easily distinguish the sentence for all, but particularly those with cognitive

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-09 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:31 PM 2/9/2005, Richard Czeiger wrote: Here's a little script that might help this issue. It takes the element with the id of content and adds an extra white space at the end of a sentence to the existing one. This way, the code is still clean and you can have your whitespace cake and eat it

RE: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-09 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:19 PM 2/9/2005, Ted Drake wrote: How about this One flew over the cuckoos nest should be on the top of everyone's list of kid's / In fact, it is even more important than Joe Joe the Big ol' cornflake. br / style sheet br {display:inline; width:2em;} Ted, This doesn't work, at least

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-10 Thread Paul Novitski
Because there's such a mix of opinions about the value of double-spacing between sentences and its history, I asked my friend John D. Berry, typographer book designer of note, to give me the low-down on double-spacing to post to this list. __ At 01:50 PM

Re: [WSG] Pages reloading

2005-02-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 08:18 AM 2/14/2005, Paul wrote: I am not sure if this is on topic or not but I have to issue a cry for help. There are a series of pages I am working on that have different floor plans that you can click on and you get a different floor plan image (

Re: [WSG] css markup for a list with a list

2005-02-16 Thread Paul Novitski
Bruce, Your selector [.content ol li ul li] refers to a list item within the unordered list, not the list itself. What you want is probably: .content ol li ul { margin: 0 0 0 25px; list-style-type: none; font-size: 100%; color: #f00; } Why you're having a problem

Re: [WSG] quot; or in copy?

2005-02-16 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:16 PM 2/16/2005, Dmitry Baranovskiy wrote: Actually is an inch symbol. For quotes we should use #147; and #148; in normal text. I thought #147; and #147; were deprecated in HTML4. I use: #8216; = left single quote #8217; = right single quote (apostrophe) #8220; = left double quote #8221;

Re: [WSG] Standard this

2005-02-16 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:13 PM 2/16/2005, Andy Pieters wrote: Why not include a 'browser-build' selector in css? Andy, Folks in both listserves you posted this to have explained pretty well why it's a bad idea. Ironically, I imagine some of these same folks use browser-specific hacks in their CSS. Well, heck,

Re: [WSG] Site Review:

2005-02-17 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:40 PM 2/17/2005, Tatham Oddie wrote: It’d be greatly appreciated if you could do a site review of Currently there is only a holding page – but I’m interested in what people would have to say about the way I’ve achieved the text wrapping.

Re: [WSG] opacity as a hover for photo gallery thumbnails

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:29 AM 3/2/2005, john wrote: Still working on that photo gallery. :) I found a site that helped me in creating a photo gallery I like, but I need to put a hover on the thumbnails so that the user knows where they are. I'd like to have it change the opacity, but a) I'm not sure how

Re: [WSG] Parent Selectors

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Novitski
At 09:34 PM 3/2/2005, RMW Web Publishing wrote: I am using a bottom border on links for easier reading (compared with underlines), but only want the border to appear on text links - not images. Is there a why to set the style on a parent ('a') when you know what the child is ('img')? I believe

RE: [WSG] Onresize Javascript function? Any standard equivalent?

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 09:34 AM 3/3/2005, Joey wrote: Thanks, but when I tried to insert onresize into the body tag it told me it was invalid. Instead of doing this: body onresize=SwapStylesheets(); do this: script language=Javascript src=SwapStylesheets.js/script /head body and in

Re: [WSG] Parent Selectors

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Novitski
. - Original Message - From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] | But in this case, I don't think you have to. If an image is the only thing | inside a hyperlink, why not simply remove your border from any image whose | parent is an anchor? In a very quick test in Firefox IE, applying {display: block

Re: [WSG] Writing with a markup language

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Novitski
I got a comprehensible English translation of the article from Just plug in the article's URL and select Italian to English. Paul At 03:00 PM 3/3/2005, Richard Czeiger wrote: Sorry - I think Bert has a

Re: [WSG] navigation using arrows for location

2005-03-05 Thread Paul Novitski
Peter Ottery wrote: so I've designed myself a nice looking navigation scheme that displays visually whereabouts you are within a site. Now I just need to work out how to sort out the css :) ... I've had a play with some css and arrived at this:

Re: [WSG] navigation using arrows for location

2005-03-05 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:20 AM 3/5/2005, Anders Nawroth wrote: I wish we could find out why IE throws the submenus around sometimes ... then it would be *really* useful. If you haven't already, you might try posing the problem also to the CSS-D listserve There

Re: [WSG] Quoting Code Snippets

2005-03-11 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:24 PM 3/11/2005, Hassan Schroeder wrote: Depending on what you're showing the code for, line numbers may be almost essential, or at least very useful; here's a sample I did a while back for someone to use as a model for a tutorial: Of course,

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:05 PM 3/14/2005, Mary Ann wrote: I see you have set the container width at 760px. Does anyone know what is the maximum number of pixels for page width in order to avoid truncating the text along the left side of a print job? Even Microsoft's support pages suffer from this same

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:14 AM 4/3/2005, Chris Stratford wrote: You can use this DTD: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.0 Strict; I made it myself from a tutorial. It is XHTML 1.0 Strict. But I modded it to allow target=_blank Further on this subject, here's some interesting

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:22 AM 4/3/2005, Kim Kruse wrote: Take a look at this page or create a custom dtd (kinda cheating IMO) You should ask yourself if you really need to pop a new window! Kim, I agree. Strictly speaking (no pun intended!) I suppose

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 09:00 AM 4/3/2005, David wrote: Somewhat off topic but wonder if any javascript could get a window to open up in a new tab? I know only maybe 30% of people have a tabbed browsing capable browser but I just think it would be cool. lol. David, I use Firefox, set to open new pages in new tabs

[WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Novitski
Why is it that rows and cols are required attributes for the textarea element, even in xhtml? They strike me as being purely presentational, and not really needed: in the absense of styling, browsers could apply arbitrary defaults as they do with text input field width. I can't find any

Re: [WSG] textarea rows cols - presentation in xhtml?

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:00 PM 4/4/2005, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: It could be argued that it is more than presentation. It indicates to the user about the quantity or usage of the textarea; the size of text fields is a usability topic. If you were told to write a Summary of your proposal, and given 8 lines instead

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:37 PM 4/4/2005, tee wrote: I have a menu in my site that I use class ID for each link with different menu button. It was validated until I added body#ID for persistent page indicator. Before persisten page indicator: .lia href=index.htm id=home title=home accesskey=1 /a/li After page

Re: [WSG] How exactly can I get pixel perfect in IE?

2005-04-05 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:29 PM 4/5/2005, tee wrote: I have a one pixel in padding-bottom in the li Everything looks so perfect in FF and Safari, but in IE (PC Mac) , it's something like 3 or 4 pixel. It messes up my menu. At 12:42 PM 4/5/2005, Thierry Koblentz wrote: In the markup, do not leave whitespace between

Re: [WSG] CSS Document layout/structure

2005-04-07 Thread Paul Novitski
It's fascinating to see so many CSS styling standards. What makes perfect sense to one person can be nonsensical to the next. Clearly what makes styling work for any author is consistency and thoughtful logic -- even if that logic is idiosyncratic. Here's what I do: Any given page can have

Re: [WSG] newspaper format

2005-04-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:44 AM 4/14/2005, designer wrote: I have been trying to present the information relating to a novel in a more interesting style than 'just text' or indeed three columns, and have experimented with a sort of newspaper style. The newspaper is a fictitious one which is mentioned often in the

[WSG] implementing index and end-notes on the web

2005-04-14 Thread Paul Novitski
I'm converting a book to a website and am mulling over various ways to implement the text, index, and end-notes in web-standards, accessible XHTML and CSS, potentially with the aid of scripting. I welcome your feedback and links to existing examples on the net. Index format

RE: [WSG] IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc)

2005-04-20 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:40 PM 4/20/2005, Collin Davis wrote: I would argue that in a heartbeat - when you're talking about an architectural or otherwise design showcase site - what designer is going to give half a though to blind or visually impaired users? Quite honestly, in a situation like this site... who

Re: [WSG] very frustrated

2005-05-17 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:17 PM 5/17/2005, Bruce Morrison wrote: This may help: Transparent custom corners and borders Rounded corners, no extra markup, script required. Now that we¢re finally embracing JavaScript, all those complicated markup kludges are a thing of the past.

Re: [WSG] Character encoding

2005-06-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:36 PM 6/4/2005, Lea de Groot wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:07:48 -0500, Matt Thommes wrote: For instance, I always escape a dash (-) with #8211;--- when using it in a normal sentence. Thats interesting - I escape such entities as ampersands () and double quotes (), but not things

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:05 PM 6/14/2005, Richard Czeiger wrote: Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list item). For example... 1. a) 1 - a: I would argue that this is perfectly

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:54 AM 6/15/2005, Bert Doorn wrote: G'day Paul Novitski wrote: I would argue that this is perfectly good markup styling: ol li1 - Aardvark/li li2 - Banshee/li li3 - Cicada/li /ol and then: ol li

Re: [WSG] Constraining images

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Novitski
At 06:00 PM 6/30/2005, Bert Doorn wrote: If the image is to be replaced on hover, you'll probably need javascript (someone correct me if it can be done with CSS) CSS can't replace foreground images but certainly can replace background images: .Products a { display: block;

Re: [WSG] Constraining images

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:41 PM 6/30/2005, Wayne Godfrey wrote: But like I said, this requires me to code each image individually, using the above or even what you've given me below, can I eliminate the height and keep the image constrained? At 06:00 PM 6/30/2005, Bert Doorn wrote: If you don't specify a height

Re: [WSG] Visited Link Styling

2005-07-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 08:47 AM 6/30/2005, Chris Kennon wrote: Strike-through styling for visited links, I've heard differing opinions on this method, but am asking the consensus of the WSG. a:visited { text-decoration: line-through; } Chris, I don't see any ambiguity. Crossing out text indicates that it's

Re: [WSG] Learning The DOM

2005-07-18 Thread Paul Novitski
Reference, not tutorial: Paul At 11:29 AM 7/18/2005, Chris Kennon wrote: As many of you, more skilled than I, carry the burden of spreading good practices, I'm calling upon you for resources for learning the DOM. I've an understanding of Javascript,

Re: [WSG] alphabetic horizontal list problem

2005-07-22 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:03 AM 7/22/2005, Stephanie wrote: I need to create an alphabetic horizontal list to link to content on a page - problem I am having is that I want to float the list right but when I do that the alphabetic list is ordered from Z - A instead of A - Z. Any clue as to how to solve this

Re: [WSG] Dot leaders - check please?

2005-08-02 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:13 AM 8/2/2005, designer wrote: I have been looking at methods to produce dot leaders, and many seem to use tables to do it. Others seem to have classitis. I have knocked up a method using a dashed background gif in a list item, whilst trying to keep the code to a minimum. ... I'd be

Re: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Paul Novitski
For IE only, you can use Microsoft's proprietary expression extension to execute JavaScript from the stylesheet, e.g.: div#header { width: expression(window.clientWidth / 2); } Use of expression() is currently* an IE-only filter, e.g.: div#blob

Re: [WSG] another 'open new window' dilemma

2005-08-25 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:39 AM 8/25/2005, designer wrote: All I can say is that, as a sighted viewer, if I encountered a site with 100 links, each of which which opened in the same window, I'd be outa there faster than you can say 'back button' :-) I've been wondering of late if there is another way out of

RE: [WSG] another 'open new window' dilemma

2005-08-25 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:00 AM 8/25/2005, Janelle Clemens wrote: Who says opening a new window is bad practice. Especially if it is an outside link. I've been searching the web for information on this and finding nothing. My understanding of web accessibility and 508 is to make everything as clear a possible.

Re: [WSG] td != div

2005-09-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 06:15 PM 9/6/2005, Kenny Graham wrote: The most obvious one I can think of is the need for two background images. Sometimes this is the case, but often times it can be avoided with a little creativity, such as using a background image on the ul, and classing the first and last li to give

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

2005-09-07 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:37 PM 9/6/2005, Chris Blown wrote: The mess that is tables - and here I mean a bunch of tables for layout - can easily lead to broken markup, especially when you have to go back a re-jig something, whether is easier than CSS/P doesn't matter, the fact remains. The problem is that browsers

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

2005-09-07 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:19 AM 9/7/2005, John Allsopp wrote: Paul, Hang on now. There's nothing about the use of table markup per se that leads one to err more frequently. on the contrary, actual research suggests very strongly that there is. I have found a very high correlation between malformed documents

Re: [WSG] Barclays standards redesign

2005-09-07 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:19 AM 9/7/2005, Chris Taylor wrote: Not sure if this has been flagged up anywhere else, but I noticed the barclays website has had a CSS makeover: It's great to see a huge company like this hauling themselves into the 21st century web-wise, and maybe it will be

Re: [WSG] Show Hide by Class

2005-09-19 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:57 PM 9/18/2005, Stuart Sherwood wrote: ... For each category, the list of topics must be hidden until clicked. ... //Populate the array with all the page tags var allPageTags=document.getElementsByTagName(*); //Cycle through the tags using a for loop for (i=0; iallPageTags.length; i++)

Re: [WSG] avoid Verdana - I cant get the whole point.

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 08:32 PM 10/3/2005, Buddy Quaid wrote: I'm not trying to offend anybody here at all but so many posts about whether or not to use Verdana is just boring. Boring! Holy smokes, every technical field is boring unless the details happen to fascinate you. Boring isn't an attribute of

Re: [WSG] Background Alignment

2005-10-04 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:45 PM 10/3/2005, Helmut Granda wrote: I have a background that is centered horizontally but tiled vertically. ... Everything looks fine the only difference is 1 pixel between IE and FF. Has anyone encounter a similar problem? Note: The background is 700px in width. How wide is the

Re: [WSG] Background Alignment

2005-10-04 Thread Paul Novitski
Sorry, my misreading. What I ought to have said was, make sure that both the background image and its container are both an even number of pixels wide. Paul At 12:11 AM 10/4/2005, Rick Faaberg wrote: On 10/4/05 12:00 AM Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Everything looks fine

Re: [WSG] List Headers?

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:15 PM 11/5/2005, Christian Montoya wrote: What I would like to do is have a list header, much like tables have table headers. I wrote more about this here: But what it basically boils down to is having a tag I call list header

Re: [WSG] Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply

2006-01-05 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:24 PM 1/4/2006, Nic wrote: You go to a site, and it proudly claims xhtml/css/wai compliance. You do a quick check, and discover that the code wouldn't pass xhtml 1.0 compliance, let alone the 1.1 strict they claim! Their css is a mess. ... This upsets me on several levels. ... Nic,

Re: [WSG] Site Check -

2006-01-11 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:09 PM 1/11/2006, David Nicol wrote: I'd appreciate it very much if you could take a quick look at: David, You've got an XHTML-Strict doctype, and yet you've got a great whack of whitespace above the doctype tag. If I'm not mistaken, this will cause browsers

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:26 PM 1/13/2006, wrote: in the sence that in address example, the meaning a Br-tag would carrie could instead be carried by commas or seperate p tags, which would be more correct and should be used? This is one of those points we'll never all agree on but love to argue.

Re: [WSG] Active Links

2006-01-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 07:18 AM 1/14/2006, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: assign an id or class to each navigation bar link, and also assign an id or class to the body element. then, in your css, define rules that match up the two. ... ul lia href=/ id=navhomehome/a/li lia href=/portfolio/ id=navportfolioportfolio/a/li

Re: [WSG] Article: MIME and Content Negotiation

2006-01-16 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:02 AM 1/16/2006, Lachlan Hunt wrote: (The charset parameter is only really needed for text/* media types, for XML served with an application/* media type, the XML declaration is recommended for use instead which may be omitted for UTF-8 and UTF-16)

Re: [WSG] Google and HTML5

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:52 PM 1/25/2006, Geoff Deering wrote: header/header nav/nav article/article aside/aside footer/footer Do others feel there are *elements* of presentation creeping back into the structure? ... The second

Re: [WSG] The dilemma: tabular data with sublevels

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:46 PM 1/26/2006, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: [Add] [Edit] [Delete] Item 1 [Add] [Edit] [Delete] - SubItem 1.1 [Add] [Edit] [Delete] - SubItem 1.1.1 [Add] [Edit] [Delete] - SubItem 1.1.2 [Add] [Edit] [Delete] - SubItem 1.2 ... Andreas, I could argue either list

RE: [WSG] The dilemma: tabular data with sublevels

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:39 PM 1/26/2006, Paul Bennett wrote: You're saying that Add is a definition of Item 1 dtItem 1/dt dda href=?add=123Add/a/dd dda href=?edit=123Edit/a/dd At 05:44 PM 1/26/2006, Joshua Street wrote: Hmm I'd strongly contest a definition list. Maybe nested UL's

RE: [WSG] The dilemma: tabular data with sublevels

2006-01-27 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:11 PM 1/26/2006, Geoff Pack wrote: How about this: style type=text/cssli span {float:right; margin-right:30%;}/style ul lispan[ Add | Edit | Delete ] /spanItem 1 I believe the challenge arises when you consider Add/Edit/Delete as a series of links or buttons and deserving of a


2006-01-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:39 PM 1/28/2006, Paula Petrik wrote: The blockquote element requires that it enclose block level elements--in my case usually a p. Since blockquotes are usually in a run of text (#content p), it picks up the content p's line-height. But a blockquote, typographically speaking, should have a

Re: [WSG] standards-happy javascript for faq

2006-01-30 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:44 PM 1/29/2006, SunUp wrote: Does anyone know of a method which will toggle the visibility of the FAQ answers while still displaying everything properly without javascript, and that adheres to current best practise for javascript? Hmm. The text-toggling examples folks have posted on

Re: [WSG] standards-happy javascript for faq

2006-01-30 Thread Paul Novitski
From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm. The text-toggling examples folks have posted on this topic use {display: none} to hide text. I'm under the impression that some screen readers will not speak text that's been hidden with {display: none}. At 05:04 AM 1/30/2006, Al Sparber wrote

Re: [WSG] round corner links

2006-02-08 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:27 PM 2/8/2006, kvnmcwebn wrote: Im thinking about making a vertical navigation list with rounded corner(all 4) buttons. I would like to uses two images-for the right and left ends- and a 1px repeater background image running behind. Should i just place two end images on either side of

Re: [WSG] cool FAQ page [follow up]

2006-02-09 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:22 PM 2/9/2006, Al Sparber wrote: Getting away from the FAQ thing to links within documents, I find that sort of navigation almost as annoying as popup windows. It might very well be a convention, but I do consider it a negative for usability. Very distracting - even more so when there

[WSG] accessible drill-down into a nested list

2006-02-11 Thread Paul Novitski
I'd like to hear from folks who've used screen-readers: What are the best ways to drill down into a nested list? Consider a nested menu that's marked up as an unordered list (UL). Select an item in the top-level menu and the page reloads with a second-level menu of items opened up within the

Re: [WSG] accessible drill-down into a nested list

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:26 PM 2/11/2006, Terrence Wood wrote: the page reloads with a set of breadcrumbs that spells out the history Essentially you are repeating information already available through the browser history, and it still doesn't inform the user that there is a new menu if that is your goal. Also,

Re: [WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:49 AM 2/12/2006, kvnmcwebn wrote: I have to semantically mark up large lists of contact info. Below is an example of one of the list items. Is this the best way to mark it up? dl dt class=HeadAccord Inishowendt dtContact Name:/dt ddSecretary: Breege Canny dd dtContact Informationdt

RE: [WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:30 AM 2/12/2006, kvnmcwebn wrote: in this structure from the w3c i dont think theres any hierarhcy for the first dt? DL DTCenter DTCentre DD A point equidistant from all points on the surface of a sphere. DD In some field sports, the player who

Re: [WSG] accessible drill-down into a nested list

2006-02-15 Thread Paul Novitski
Paul Novitski wrote: Tell me if this would be a better scenario: When you select a menu item, the page reloads with a set of breadcrumbs that spells out the history of selected menu items, such as: Thanks very much, Ian, your response to my posting was exactly the kind of feedback I

Re: [WSG] Linking to top of page

2006-02-27 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:35 AM 2/27/2006, Curby wrote: What is the recommended way for linking back to the top of the page? I can't link to the id of my H1 because of my CSS. Whoa. Stop right there. How can CSS stop you from linking to an h1 that's got an id? Paul

Re: [WSG] Linking to top of page

2006-02-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:34 PM 2/28/2006, Hill, Tim wrote: a href=#Back to Top/a Is there an issue with using this for screenreaders? Wouldn't they activate this link and nothing would happen? Does this work effectively across browsers to scroll the page to the top though? I've found it works on firefox, ie,

Re: [WSG] o 0

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:30 PM 3/3/2006, Chris Kennon wrote: A accessibility/usability quirk was posed to me and led to a me neither response. I've yet to encounter a font for the web that has a distinction between the uppercase letter O and the number 0. If such a font exist, which is it? Checking quickly:

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