Re: [WSG] Vertically aligned text without tables

2003-09-25 Thread russ weakley
Good solution, James! The display:inline declaration was unnecessary in this context. I accidentally left it in when playing around with the box positioning. It worked in aye-eeeh 6, but it came unstuck in Opera 6. Maybe it could be tweaked to work reliably.

Re: [WSG]a little xhtml1.1 template

2003-10-01 Thread russ weakley
James, I build a range of full CSS layouts when I first started playing with full CSS. Most of them are still online, and there are a number that are centred and reasonably browser-stable. There is code on the page to make it easier: Single column Centre aligned, scalable width

Re: [WSG]li padding/margin issue

2003-10-02 Thread russ weakley
Standard HTML lists have a certain amount of left-indentation. The amount varies on each browser. Some browsers use padding (Mozilla, Netscape, Safari) and others use margins (Internet Explorer, Opera) to set the amount of indentation. The best thing to do is to remove all default padding first

Re: [WSG]CSS Forms

2003-10-02 Thread russ weakley
list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Design Phone: (02) 9410 2521 Mobile: 0403 433 980 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maxdesign.com.au

Re: [WSG]WSG Icons

2003-10-04 Thread russ weakley
I reckon Ben's icon is best. Much closer the the real site logo. Spiffy? Now there's a word I haven't heard in a while! Russ Hello Peter and listies, -Original Message- the second icon on the page (WSG fir image replacement version - 2) as it has the correct colours and matches the

[WSG] Another o-matic

2003-10-16 Thread russ weakley
Following on from Accessifies List-o-matic, and Inknoise's Layout-o-matic, comes CSS border test - should have been called Border-o-matic: http://www.copysense.co.uk/border.htm Allows you to test a wide range of CSS borders and shows you the results. Also gives you the CSS code. Russ

[WSG] A house made entirely of CSS?

2003-10-17 Thread russ weakley
Chris Hester has created a picture of a house using nothing more than CSS - no images. http://www.designdetector.com/tips/3DBorderDemo2.html Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

[WSG] Simon Jessey on XHTML and mime types

2003-10-24 Thread russ weakley
Well... true to his word, Simon has written a great article/tutorial on XHTML and mime types (in record time too!): For most websites, authoring in HTML 4.01 is perfectly sufficient. Most of the features available in XHTML are available in good old HTML. However, some sites may wish to take

[WSG] A comic book version of tables to webstandards...

2003-10-27 Thread russ weakley
http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/ Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] css question and site test on Mac

2003-10-27 Thread russ weakley
if you could give http://www.globetrekking.com a quick test - it is my first website (redesign) using CSS for layout. Thanks Petra Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Design Phone: (02) 9410 2521 Mobile: 0403 433 980 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] css question and site test on Mac

2003-10-27 Thread russ weakley
Yes! forgot to mention that! I fixed it on the file I posted but forgot to tell you. Thanks Lindsay Russ One quick point - unrelated to the alignment issue - is the font family declaration: { font-family: arial black; arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; } Theoretically it is best to

Re: [WSG] css question and site test on Mac

2003-10-27 Thread russ weakley
- Moz1.4 - Op7 - N7 Thanks Russ Thanks for your help. It looks perfect in Netscape but in IE6 half of the text (question mark) is cut off. I suppose I shall have to display a different line-height to IE. Thanks Petra - Original Message - From: russ weakley mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Sending XHTML with the correct MIME type

2003-11-03 Thread russ weakley
Wow, looks like you are moving into that super-geek territory we were discussing. What do the likes of Anne van Kesteren, Simon Willison and Evan Goer say on the subject? Reading your posts (or your journey) on serving correct MIME types should be mandatory for anyone thinking of building sites

[WSG] Special guest presentation for Sydney members

2003-11-04 Thread russ weakley
The next Sydney meeting (and end of year party) will be Thursday 4 December, 2003. John Allsopp will be guest presenter for the evening and will be talking about the history of CSS, where it is now, and where it will be going in the future. For those of you who do not know about John Allsopp,

[WSG] New site launch by 37 Signals - SRA

2003-11-04 Thread russ weakley
37 Signals just launched the Society for Risk Analysis (SRA) site: http://www.sra.org/ Very nice, simple, elegant design. Three interesting points 1. Uses a basic table grid and then mostly CSS for style - not that this is a bad thing, but slightly surprising. 2. invalid xhtml - they have gone

[WSG] ReUsit contest entries

2003-11-04 Thread russ weakley
The competition is over, and all entires are online: http://builtforthefuture.com/reuseit/contestants.php Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Centering content using CSS

2003-11-07 Thread russ weakley
I received an irate email from a user via the Floatutorial the other day, who correctly picked up that my centering method did not work across all browsers. I quickly edited the relevant tutorials and wrote a small article. Many of you will be fully aware of this method (I'm sure it has been

[WSG] Two new PIE articles

2003-11-08 Thread russ weakley
Big John and Holly Bergevin have written two great new articles at Position is Everything (P.I.E.). Flowing and Positioning: Two Page Models http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/flow-pos.html A detailed discussion of flowing and positioning. Float: The Theory

Re: [WSG] Sydney Workshop: Practical CSS Page Layout - it's on!

2003-11-10 Thread russ weakley
damned issues I can't eradicate! From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 10/11/03 9:47 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] Sydney Workshop: Practical CSS Page Layout - it's on! For those who have joined recently, the Sydney CSS

Re: [WSG] Safari support for border-collapse?

2003-11-12 Thread russ weakley
Here are some quickies: http://diveintomark.org/safari/ http://macedition.com/cb/resources/safari/safari_issues.html http://www.gel.ulaval.ca/~fortin15/safari-bugs.html Hi James, I've just been playing around with this on Konqueror and it doesn't seem to be supported. I'm writing a bit

Re: [WSG] Safari support for border-collapse?

2003-11-12 Thread russ weakley
, Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * Thanks Russ --- Russ Weakley Max Design Phone: (02) 9410 2521 Mobile: 0403 433

Re: [WSG] Preparing for DOCTYPE

2003-11-13 Thread russ weakley
It is valid but will run in quirks mode - not standards complaint mode: This may be an issue as some browsers will render CSS differently if Quirks mode is used. http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/about-boxmodel.htm http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/29/quirks_mode

[WSG] CSS pushed to the limit

2003-11-14 Thread russ weakley
The Literary Moose site has been mentioned on this list before - a site pushes the boundaries of CSS - http://www.literarymoose.info/=/css.html A new article by Wojtek (The Moose) at Nemesis takes it even further. A mind-boggling journey into CSS generated content:

Re: [WSG] relative positioning of nested lists

2003-11-15 Thread russ weakley
It could be an IE whitespace issue. I can't look at your example just now but have you tried: liitem/lili item/li In other words, the next list item must start on the same line as the one above. I know, it sounds insane... Thanks Russ Anyone have any thoughts on why IE6 keeps shoving in a

Re: [WSG] A few interesting articles...

2003-11-18 Thread russ weakley
Hi Michael, Welcome to the group! link rel=start... Refers to the first document in a collection of documents. This link type tells search engines (and other alternate browsers) which document is considered by the author to be the starting point of the collection.

Re: [WSG] IE whitespace issues

2003-11-18 Thread russ weakley
James, Can you post a URL? Russ Hi all I'm beating my head against a wall about this one... IE 5.5 and 6 is putting in some mystery whitespace (looks like about 8-10 pixels - a line) after a horizontal navigation list. This hor. list has a nested list holding some text within it. The

[WSG] Posting questions to the list

2003-11-19 Thread russ weakley
If you're new to this list and want to post a question, have a quick read of this post first (this info is relevant for any list you join): Post on Web Standards Group site (you'll need to log in to read it): http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?uid=6AF51B1A-C964-A884-A32EE DF301F8B7D0

[WSG] CSS workshop - final post

2003-11-20 Thread russ weakley
The Sydney CSS workshop has had lots of interest, so they have decided to do another day for those who missed out - 12th December http://www.westciv.com/courses/workshops/ My final post on this - I promise! Russ * The discussion list for

[WSG] Another full CSS site

2003-11-23 Thread russ weakley
Another full css site goes live: http://calgrants.org/ More here: http://kalsey.com/2003/11/california_government_css_design/ Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Round corners based on ALA sliding doors

2003-11-23 Thread russ weakley
Simple, Semantically Correct CSS Boxen with Clean Code: http://www.vertexwerks.com/tests/sidebox/ Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] Dave Shea's Mezzoblue

2003-11-26 Thread russ weakley
Completely agree - especially the recent crib sheet: http://www.mezzoblue.com/css/cribsheet/ I'm sure most of you are aware of this site, but just for those that aren't http://www.mezzoblue.com/ is the blog of Dave Shea, who is probably better know for coming up with

[WSG] Selectutorial

2003-12-01 Thread russ weakley
Hi all, I have just launched a new CSS tutorial to follow on from Listamatic, Listutorial and Floatutorial. This one is called Selectutorial - CSS selectors - and includes basics like the structure of rules, the document tree, types of selectors and their uses. There is also a step-by-step

[WSG] Web standards brain dump...

2003-12-02 Thread russ weakley
I am going to do a quick talk about web standards to a group of final year students tomorrow. As with all of us, I'm up to my eyeballs in work. So, I thought I'd do a brain dump and then get feedback from the group. Lean and clean! Building a site with web standards

Re: [WSG] Too Much Space..

2003-12-06 Thread russ weakley
Imagine floats as being similar to the old align=right. For example, you have a block of content and an image. If you want the image to align right beside the content it must be before the content. Floats work in exactly the same way. To quote: Block level elements above a floated element will

Re: [WSG] center align

2003-12-07 Thread russ weakley
The first example you gave is designed to work for any situation. It works for items that have fixed widths or liquid widths (based on the width of the viewport). And yes, it is not as elegant as it should be. However, if you have a liquid layout, there is a much simpler method that only needs

Re: [WSG] Too Much Space..

2003-12-07 Thread russ weakley
Try this: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/poo.htm Modify as required Russ Is there anyone on this list who can easily put together a 3 column layout? Hold on, there is more. All 3 columns need to be 33% (or come to 100%) * The discussion

Re: [WSG] Too Much Space..

2003-12-07 Thread russ weakley
-Original Message- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 7 December 2003 6:05 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Too Much Space.. Try this: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/poo.htm Modify as required Russ Is there anyone on this list who can easily

Re: [WSG] Too Much Space..

2003-12-07 Thread russ weakley
Oops. A flaw in the version I just sent below. Ignore. Teach me to do too many things at once. :( Russ ode to poo with centred container: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/poo2.htm Why poo? Good question. Maybe something to do with a 3 year old child that is hassling me as we speak. :)

Re: [WSG] new member says hello

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
Hi again, Peter, welcome to the list. Had a look at your site the other day. Beautiful stuff in the portfolio section! Russ Hi folks, Peter Gifford here, new member just introducing myself. Hopefully I can be of some service on the list and not just poke about in your experienced brains

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
Sorry for the length of this... 1. All government sites are supposed to follow WAI guideline - which recommend the use of relative font sizes. 2. The aim is to give users the option. Saying that users can change their screen resolution is throwing the responsibility back onto them - it is our

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
on me ;-) I'll give it a go though at some stage. -Original Message- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 2:19 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? Sorry for the length of this... 1. All government sites

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:41 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? Taco, If you code well, relative font sizes do not require a great deal to apply across a site. You are simply making decisions on font

[WSG] A few links for a Thursday...

2003-12-10 Thread russ weakley
1. Westciv Free CSS1 course is now starting. Every week a new major section will become available, but the old installments will disappear. http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/index.html 2. Nemesis article: Two columns with color - a simple step by step tutorial on how make a two column CSS

Re: [WSG] A few links for a Thursday...

2003-12-10 Thread russ weakley
Melbourne, Australia http://www.davidmcdonald.org ICQ:11814164 - Original Message - From: russ weakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:03 pm Subject: [WSG] A few links for a Thursday... 1. Westciv Free CSS1 course is now starting. Every week a new major

[WSG] XHTML Friends Network and semantic markup

2003-12-15 Thread russ weakley
Tantek had an interesting post today: http://tantek.com/log/2003/12.html#L20031215t0830 Well worth a read are his six archived posts on sematic markup. Although they are written to bloggers, they have value to anyone marking up websites. As is often discussed on this list, the articles outline

Re: [WSG] @Import VS Link for Style sheets? WHY?

2003-12-20 Thread russ weakley
Hi Mike, The @import is generally used in two ways (the second is probably what you are referring to): --- 1. import CSS files into other CSS files --- @import can be used to import style sheets into other

[WSG] Sydney WSG meeting 15 January

2004-01-04 Thread russ weakley
The next Sydney WSG meeting is set for Thursday 15 January 7.00pm - 7.30pm: Lindsay Evans, Interface Developer, Red Square XXX - An introduction to XSLT, XPath XML 7.40pm - 8.10pm: Russ Weakley Coloured boxes - the process of building a CSS layout 8.10pm Informal stuff (site demos, questions

Re: [WSG] how would I do this?

2004-01-06 Thread russ weakley
Peter, The image is set to float: left which means it is taken out of normal flow. Containers (in this case the li) cannot determine the height of a floated item, so they will close themselves immediately below any elements that are in normal flow (in this case below the h2 and the p) - leaving

Re: [WSG] how would I do this?

2004-01-06 Thread russ weakley
The float and container information was poorly explained. Here is a real example with an explanation: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/floatsample.htm Russ The image is set to float: left which means it is taken out of normal flow. Containers (in this case the li) cannot determine the height

[WSG] Web standards debate at Mezzoblue

2004-01-06 Thread russ weakley
Dave Shea asks: Support the standards and nothing but the standards, regardless of whether or not browsers get them right? ‹ or ‹ Support what standards are available given today¹s browser support, and kludge together markup/script/ CSS hacks to overcome deficiencies in implementations? A

Re: [WSG] How to centre a group of floated images

2004-01-06 Thread russ weakley
Mike, Thanks for the wrap on floatutorial. :) The layout you have done has a number of errors including missing alt tags and background images applied to the td element. I used to do these myself before I saw the light. Now CSS can do it for you more easily. This layout is very simple, so why

Re: [WSG] How to centre a group of floated images

2004-01-06 Thread russ weakley
Michael, Looking good. Forgive the long rave here... 1. There are still validation issues with your page. There are XHTML breaks instead of HTML breaks. So, br / should be br, and the same for metadata - remove the end backslash, as this is causing items below to show up as invalid.

[WSG] An amazing resource site

2004-01-06 Thread russ weakley
You may have seen this on Zeldman, but this site has the biggest set of resources I have seen - try these two pages: Accessibility: http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/accessibility.ht ml CSS: http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/css.html Thanks

Re: [WSG] Containers and divs?

2004-01-07 Thread russ weakley
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Re: [WSG] A few links...

2004-01-07 Thread russ weakley
Denis, you are right. While the archive section is partially helpful, any useful link posted to WSG should also be added to our resources section. Slackness on my part: http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/ BTW, anyone can add to the resources section (especially to the built by members

Re: [WSG] Problems getting Mozilla to like Floats

2004-01-09 Thread russ weakley
Hi Mark, First of welcome from lurker status :) 1. invalid page http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.phunky.co.uk/bs/ Just three items in the head of your document need / to be valid XHTML. Always validate before testing or posting - like cleaning your teeth :) Peter and I have been

[WSG] A few more links...

2004-01-09 Thread russ weakley
Interesting interview with Ryan Carver (Lee Jeans recent redesign using web standards): http://www.webstandards.org/learn/interviews/rcarver/ A List Apart issue 167 is out (Elastic design article is very good): http://www.alistapart.com/issues/167/ An all-too-true definition of web standards?

[WSG] free web accessibility checking toolbar

2004-01-11 Thread russ weakley
Steven Faulkner, from the Accessible Information Solutions (AIS) team, has developed a free web accessibility checking toolbar for Internet Explorer http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/ The Accessibility Toolbar software contains a range of Tools: To examine discrete aspects

Re: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
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Re: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
Yes, this is correct behaviour. The background of your comments div should slide under the floated item - the right nav. The foreground (the text) should not slide under, instead it should stop against the edge of the floated item. There is a good reason for it. The reason for this is to do with

Re: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
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[WSG] Image width and height, plus definition lists

2004-01-13 Thread russ weakley
Do we need the HEIGHT and WIDTH attributes for the IMG element? http://annevankesteren.nl/archives/2004/01/12/images-height-and-width-attrib utes Also interesting is this image gallery that uses a definition lists to create the gallery: http://www.btinternet.com/~historiae/gallery.html This is

Re: [WSG] ordered list for events

2004-01-13 Thread russ weakley
Many ways to skin a cat. A standard table is acceptable but so is a definition list: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/peterottery.htm Russ Peter. Without being able to test where I currently am at the moment (so forgive me if I am wrong), you should be able to use:

Re: [WSG] ordered list - accessibility

2004-01-14 Thread russ weakley
Again, completely agree, Gary. There is another reason why tabular data is more beneficial if marked up using tables - accessibility! When a blind user comes to a table, they cannot *see* it as one unit, so they need ways of tying columns and rows together. You can do this with tables, you

Re: [WSG] re: Sarari CSS

2004-01-14 Thread russ weakley
Hi Vaska, Are you talking about a Safari browser support chart? Like this: http://www.macedition.com/cb/resources/macbrowsercsssupport.html Russ Hi all, I actually hate to ask this, but awhile back I found a resource that had all the possible (both currently supported and not) CSS

Re: [WSG] QA practices

2004-01-14 Thread russ weakley
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Re: [WSG] OT: damn I feel old

2004-01-19 Thread russ weakley
As Miles said, this is slightly off-topic, even though interesting! How about email Miles off-list with responses, and then Miles can do a recap for all of us on-list (or via his blog?) in a few days time Might be worth letting Miles know if you are happy for your age to be public! Russ

[WSG] A few links for the week...

2004-01-19 Thread russ weakley
CSS Hacks and Filters http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html A pencil image made out of CSS http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php Common XHTML Validation Errors http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html Validation and error handling - from a

Re: [WSG] Print Media

2004-01-20 Thread russ weakley
- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 6:24 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Print Media Yep, just set all containers or elements that you don¹t need to display: none; on the print CSS only. You can take virtually everything off

Re: [WSG]

2004-01-20 Thread russ weakley
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[WSG] More standards/CSS links...

2004-01-21 Thread russ weakley
CSS too tips: http://www.madaboutstyle.com/tooltip2.html Simple quiz - image floats: http://www.simplebits.com/archives/2004/01/02/simplequiz_part_xi_image_float ing.html A Standard for Site Organization (via brainstormsandraves.com) http://www.theobvious.com/archive/1998/11/02.html StrongBad -

Re: [WSG] setting up a PX with old browsers

2004-01-22 Thread russ weakley
Hi Nick, I have Mac and Windows machines in front of me at all times for testing. Browsers include: Mac: saf1, camino.7, ie5, moz1.4, n7, nn4, op6 (7 total) Win: ie5, ie5.5, ie6, n7, nn4, op7, moz1.4 (7 total) I also use BrowserCam as a backup throughout most testing. I think both options are

Re: [WSG] Float tips

2004-01-22 Thread russ weakley
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Re: [WSG] URL Encoded

2004-01-22 Thread russ weakley
This thread is now closed! Take it offlist if you wish to continue! Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] ems for font sizes? (was Absolute positioned DIVs IE bug?)

2004-01-22 Thread russ weakley
The reality is you can use either perecents or ems to get the same affect, but percents seem to be the preferred option (at least below 1em): A word of caution concerning IE. Be careful using ems. The most recent versions of IE for Windows tend to flummox text with a font-size less than 1em

Re: [WSG] more usable forms

2004-01-22 Thread russ weakley
Hugh, This sort of feedback would be worth passing on to Simon Willison too! I'm sure he would like to know which browsers are not supporting it. You can email Simon directly or add a comment under his blog entry on the subject: http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2004/01/23/moreUsableForms#comments

[WSG] Some links for Friday afternoon...

2004-01-22 Thread russ weakley
The Business Case for Web Accessibility (Excellent short article on web accessibility by Andy Budd): http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000143.html Interview with Dave Shea (although it is more about him as a person, there are some interesting comments about influences and web standards):

Re: [WSG] XHTML: Labels, Image Maps, and Flash

2004-01-23 Thread russ weakley
Access keys (although they are great) have a bad name because they are so poorly supported by certain browsers (not IE this time). Also, there is no international access key standard - at least not that I am aware of. This means that users who come to your site have to discover what your access

[WSG] Some light reading...

2004-01-25 Thread russ weakley
Web power tools: Sometimes to be efficient at building web sites you need to have a variety of tools at hand to help speed up the process. http://www.nickfinck.com/presentations/devgroup/webtools/ There Are Only Tradeoffs The state of web design in 2004 is all about tradeoffs: Liquid vs. fixed,

Re: [WSG] Image Replacement Methods

2004-01-26 Thread russ weakley
A bit of url hacking gets you there: http://hinterlands.com.au/testing/css_image_replacement.html Looks great, BTW! Russ Hey Chris Can you double check that URL - looks broken. Cheers Mark * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] list-style-types

2004-01-27 Thread russ weakley
Peter, The problem is that you are dealing with browsers individual interpretation of how to render lists - in particular list bullets. Each browser decides how they will render lists via their default style sheet (based on something like this - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/sample.html).

[WSG] Definition lists - misused or misunderstood

2004-01-27 Thread russ weakley
Apologies to those who are over the definition list debate... Definition lists - misused or misunderstood? What are definition lists? When are they appropriate? And how to style them to look like tables, image galleries, calendar of events and more

Re: [WSG] Image Gallery alternative

2004-01-28 Thread russ weakley
meaning if the CSS is not present. :) Russ I was searching the web for a good way to do a thumbnail gallery and came across the discussion on this list between Russ Weakley and Justin French. I came up with this alternative to the ways that they wrote about (Russ - each image in its own DL

Re: [WSG] Real world use of standards

2004-01-28 Thread russ weakley
Bradley, First of all, this is not off-topic at all. In fact, I reckon it's the most important issue facing developers/designers on this list. Here are some comments based on Peter's and my experience.. Take or leave as you wish. :) CLIENTS We always sit down with our clients and discuss

Re: [WSG] printer specific pages

2004-01-28 Thread russ weakley
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ From the god of CSS himself - Eric :) Can I ask to be pointed to the best tutorial for making printer specific pages on CSS sites? Thanks Peter * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Definition lists -- mid-weekly challenge

2004-01-28 Thread russ weakley
Looks like you have cracked your version of the DL - looks fine on Safari. Yes, this is the right place to ask this sort of question. It is closely tied to semantic use of elements and css etc (which is part of web standards) - even if only for experimenting... If you mean is the WSG superior to

[WSG] A few quick links...

2004-01-29 Thread russ weakley
A strangely unstyled page, but some excellent concise info on accessibility (via Mark Stanton): http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/accessibility.htm l Daily Standards - dedicated to recognizing sites that have been lovingly crafted with web standards and the future in

Re: [WSG] Fun with CSS!

2004-01-29 Thread russ weakley
Cameron! This is truly amazing. Right up there with CSS Pencils and the CSS House - strange but amazing uses of CSS and XHTML. Russ Then have a game of SSCrabble -- the fun way to pass the time with Web Standards! :o] http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/01/27/

Re: [WSG] What Causes Selection Problems In IE.

2004-01-29 Thread russ weakley
position: absolute That is the culprit - makes text selection impossible in IE Russ Hey Everyone, Long time since I last wrote to the group! I was just developing a new website, and I have been having that very annoying problem in IE ­ where the text, wont be selectable like

Re: [WSG] What Causes Selection Problems In IE.

2004-01-29 Thread russ weakley
Here is a test page to show you. Check it with Win/IE6: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/try-and-highlight-me.htm You can't select the text. Another gotta-love-ie thing :) Russ position: absolute That is the culprit - makes text selection impossible in IE Russ Hey Everyone,

Re: [WSG] What Causes Selection Problems In IE.

2004-01-29 Thread russ weakley
Ok, let me refine my earlier sweeping statement :) In all of the IE's you can double and triple click. In IE6 only, there are drag-selection issues with absolutely positioned items. In IE5 and 5.5, you can drag-select like any other browser - you can start selecting from inside the box or

Re: [WSG] newbie discovers absolute positioning

2004-01-30 Thread russ weakley
Peter, position: absolute is a two edged sword. It allows you to position an element exactly where you want (within a relatively positioned item in your case), but it has downsides in certain circumstances. The biggest downside is that absolutely positioned items are completely removed from the

Re: [WSG] Delimiting columns in a 3column fluid layout

2004-01-31 Thread russ weakley
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Re: [WSG] Shorthand for Borders?

2004-02-01 Thread russ weakley
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[WSG] More links for light reading...

2004-02-02 Thread russ weakley
1. Tantek (inventor of the Tantek hack) is doing an interesting exercise - restyle his blog every few days with the same layuot as some of the top 100 blogs, but with web standards. Exclusive use of CSS for presentation. No table/gif/font layouts (unlike many of the top 100).

[WSG] AOL in full CSS

2004-02-02 Thread russ weakley
AOL is now full CSS http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000149.html Like most big site makeovers, the first thing people notice are the sites problems. In the case of AOL, the site doesn¹t validate, a lot of the text is image based, the text is a little small and overlaps its containers when

Re: [WSG] Browser / OS combo irregularity

2004-02-03 Thread russ weakley
Veine, Ryan's mentioned a few good arguments against image maps - maintenance and load time. I think there is a far bigger issue that was touched on but not explored - accessibility. start long rave Many people assume that accessibility means blind users with screen readers. However,

[WSG] Some links...

2004-02-05 Thread russ weakley
W3C's CSS validator is broken at present it seems: http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0204b.shtml http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/02/05/css_validati/ http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/02/05/bebad.html http://www.saila.com/columns/lcky/index.shtml?2004_02_01_archive.shtml#lcky2 00402051411

Re: [WSG] Special Sydney WSG Meeting!

2004-02-05 Thread russ weakley
, Macromedia User Group and Cold Fusion User Group Meeting is an event you will not want to miss. Russ Weakley of Max Design will deliver a web standards presentation on the practical benefits to your visitors, your clients and yourself! Our special guest speaker is Sean Corfield, Director

[WSG] Top businesses ignore accessibility

2004-02-07 Thread russ weakley
A survey of 100 top companies has found that they are largely failing in their moral and legal duty to make their websites accessible to those using assistive devices, such as screenreaders and Braille displays. http://www.internet-magazine.com/news/view.asp?id=3913 However, there is some good

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