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2004-03-08 Thread Terrence Wood
Has anyone got this to work? Deans example works fine on-line, but I can't get it to work served up from my test server. It would be nice if MS implemented this themselves. From: Brendan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 8 March 2004 11:24:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [WSG] IE7 fixes

Re: [WSG] Load problem in IE

2004-03-15 Thread Terrence Wood
Hi, I would consider removing the web standards notice completely or at least to the end of the page. Some people might choose not to have (or be) a web standard browser ( eg Lynx, Google). I think there was a conversation about this issue recently on this list, and you can read more here

Re: [WSG] How do I find the document width in ie and mozilla?

2004-10-14 Thread Terrence Wood
x = self.innerWidth; y = self.innerHeight; I need to find the document width.. ie.. if the viewing screen is too small I need to know the document size.. not the viewing size. Document.body.clientWidth seems to work for internet explorer.. giving me the correct sizes.. But

Re: [WSG] How do I find the document width in ie and mozilla?

2004-10-15 Thread Terrence Wood
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: Friday, 15 October 2004 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] How do I find the document width in ie and mozilla? x = self.innerWidth; y = self.innerHeight; I need to find the document width.. ie

Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac hanging on loading a page

2004-10-01 Thread Terrence Wood
Hi Mike, there are some combinations of CSS that cause IE/MAC to hang. This page has more: http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/index.shtml ./tdw On 1/10/04 4:38 PM, Mike Brown wrote: Help! This page: http://morst.signify.co.nz/templates/ig3-template.asp which validates as HTML 4.01 Strict, causes a

Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac hanging on loading a page

2004-10-01 Thread Terrence Wood
in fact (a little more specific) try here: http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/misc/#crash On 1/10/04 5:29 PM, Andrew Thompson wrote: On Friday, 1 October 2004 2:38 PM, Mike Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help! This page: http://morst.signify.co.nz/templates/ig3-template.asp

Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Terrence Wood
Place holder text is only required for textarea and text input: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#forms-specific. The reasons are: it makes it easier to tab through inputs without having to read/hear the entire form, and; some assistive technologies can't find form's properly without it.

Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-04 Thread Terrence Wood
I honestly don't know which UA's have problems with inputs without default text, but futher discussion of the WACG 1.0 until user agents.. rules can be found at http://www.juicystudio.com/tutorial/accessibility/interimsolutions.asp The browser that parses out labels is Webbie. Download it and

[WSG] be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media rule

2004-10-04 Thread Terrence Wood
Recently I posted a shorter be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media hack to another list. There was an issue with the modified rule (and original rule using the tantek hack) where the rules following the @media declaration were delivered to NN4. I have since developed this one line alternative which ensures

Re: [WSG] javascript validation question

2004-10-04 Thread Terrence Wood
It's an XHTML issue...here the validation report from BBEdit: Value of attribute onkeydown for element input is invalid; Value needs entity encoding (if(event.keyCode==9amp;amp;self.gfPop)gfPop.fHideCal();). On 5/10/04 10:12 AM, Ted Drake wrote: I'm having trouble getting a page to validate as

Re: [WSG] XHTML external links

2004-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
untested...but it should work. function externalLinks() if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return; var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a); for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++) if (anchor[i].getAttribute(rel) == external) { anchor[i].target = _blank; } } }

Re: [WSG] be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media rule

2004-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
that's correct, it works by closing off the @media rule before my original post also had a typo, it should have read: @media all { /*\{*//*}**/ /* rules */ } Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Oct 5, 2004, at 13:03, Natalie Buxton wrote: This does indeed look like it could be useful, could

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
Is there a standard answer for Web standards, or what are your points of view on this? The fact that the target attribute has disappeared from XHTML speaks volumes: don't open new windows. Opening new browser windows is about annoying as blinking text, or marquee text, and I can't think of a

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
There is a whole plethora of points against opening new windows... I am really curious as to what your usability team, or anybody else, see as the benfits of opening new windows. ./tdw john wrote: Some of my usability team are telling me that they prefer to have external links going into a new

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
Thanks Wayne, appreciate the risk ;-) What you are describing though is your personal preference for opening new windows - which I am all in favour for. I prefer tabbed window browsers myself and open alot of tabs - and therein lies my point. Opening my own windows suits me and my workflow for

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
1. p id=q1question/p a href=anwserq1.htmlcheck out the answer to question 1./a and in answerq1: a href=questions.html#q1return to quiz/a 2. write the answers into the document server side when the form is submitted and return it. 3. If the quiz relies on js then write the answer in using the

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-06 Thread Terrence Wood
Ryan, you have put forward a lot of ideas, but I can't help but thinking that the examples you provide make a stronger case for the counterpoint to the argument you are trying to make. Ryan Nichols wrote: The reason you would want to usa a 'popup' is for contextual information. Usually this is

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-06 Thread Terrence Wood
On 7/10/04 4:15 AM, Ryan Nichols wrote: Here, I'll bring in the help of an expert. Excellent book, 'The Design of Sites' by Douglas Duyne, James Landay, and Jason Hong. Quote is from the section on Process Funnels. I have this book, and as a formal collection of design patterns it's a fantastic

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-06 Thread Terrence Wood
Thanks for you contribution to this discussion Ryan, my apologies if you felt 'got at' in any way by me... it certainly was a lively debate, and it was great that you voiced your opinion with such enthusiasm. cheers ./tdw On 7/10/04 1:26 PM, Ryan Nichols wrote: I'm intitially responded to a

Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?

2004-10-07 Thread Terrence Wood
I think you are correct in your assessment that opening a new window is a behavior of the UA, and therefore (arguably) should not be included in the DTD that describes the structure of a document. Having said all that Chris's solution of having extended and published the DTD is perfectly

Re: [WSG] select as form label

2004-10-21 Thread Terrence Wood
Multiple labels for a single form control is valid HTML, however a single label for multiple form controls is not: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.9 Steven, can you be more specific about the barriers multiple labels present? TIA ./tdw On 2004-10-22 2:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] dublin core and search engines

2004-10-25 Thread Terrence Wood
The short answer is no. Dublin core is an initiative that introduces a standardized vocabulary for resource (Web page) descriptions. So, unless metatags (of any description) harm your ranking, then there is no way that DC tags in and of themselves will. It will probably be more helpful to

Re: [WSG] dublin core and search engines

2004-10-25 Thread Terrence Wood
Just to be clear, there is no way that Dublin Core in and of itself will harm a sites ranking. I am a big fan of it myself. Used properly, DC tags may or may not improve your ranking, but they will not harm it either. However, an SEO strategy that overloads meta tags with the same words,

Re: [WSG] Target Attributes

2004-10-25 Thread Terrence Wood
You are correct, you can not use a strict XHTML doctype if you want to use the target attribute. You can use transitional XHTML. ./tdw On 2004-10-26 3:44 PM, John Horner wrote: Isn't that what XHTML-1.0-Frameset is for?? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#a_dtd_XHTML-1.0-Frameset Well no, the

Re: [WSG] Target Attributes

2004-10-25 Thread Terrence Wood
frames, iframes and targets become modules in XHTML 1.1. So they will still be around, but not in the core XHTML DTD. A brief overview of XHTML and modules can be found here: http://www.juicystudio.com/tutorial/xhtml/index.asp ./tdw On 2004-10-26 5:28 PM, Nick Lo wrote: I had the same question

Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)

2004-10-27 Thread Terrence Wood
congrats! I like your car analogy... ./tdw Jason Foss wrote: Greetings! I penned a bit of a summary of some of the things I learned at WE04, and Sitepoint have published it! http://www.sitepoint.com or straight to the article: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/essentials-modern-web-design Did I

Re: [WSG] skip to content

2004-10-27 Thread Terrence Wood
Hi Aaron, Welcome to the list. I'm about to disagree with your , please don't take it personally, it's just another POV =). skip navigation may be convention, but apparently the preference of actual screen reader users is main content or similar (based on some research I have read and user

Re: [WSG] Observing Users Who Work With Screen Readers

2004-10-31 Thread Terrence Wood
Thanks Steven, this is a great resource. cheers, Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-01 12:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting observational study of screen reader users (PDF

Re: [WSG] Safari form problem

2004-11-14 Thread Terrence Wood
you're floating the textarea: remove this declaration from the CSS: form#application div.row textarea cheers Terry On 2004-11-15 10:05 AM, Mike Brown wrote: Hi Safari (1.2.4) has a problem with the layout of this form: http://dev5.signify.co.nz/templates/form.html All other tested browsers render

Re: [WSG] What do you think about slicing images?

2004-11-15 Thread Terrence Wood
Interesting question. Slicing an image was a necessary part of creating a table based design to ensure that the table cells aligned properly to preserve the design. Designers sometimes used image slicing to improve the perceived responsiveness of a site by providing some visual feedback that

Re: [WSG] Avoiding image cut-off through CSS?

2004-11-15 Thread Terrence Wood
In CSS 2.0 you would use: img { page-break-inside: avoid; } if it were supported, but unfortunately AFAIK it isn't. You can try: #selected-img-that-breaks { page-break-before: always; } which should work, but you need to know ahead of time which image is going to break your page. ./tdw On

Re: [WSG] video standards?

2004-11-16 Thread Terrence Wood
VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ is a player that handles (most) wmv movies and is available for a large number of platforms. I'm not a video expert, but heres my understanding of the market: 1. wmv files are a MS propriety implementation of MPEG4. 2. Generally the files are considerably smaller

Re: [WSG] Font size

2004-11-17 Thread Terrence Wood
Most modern browsers set the default font to something equivalent to IE default/medium font size: 16pt or 16px @96dpi it's kind of a field leveler and fonts sizes are more likely to be similar cross platform, and cross browser. Setting a smaller % size on the body means, as a designer, you

Re: [WSG] Font size

2004-11-17 Thread Terrence Wood
spaced font by a pixel of two, and specify a minimum font-size of 9px if my browser has the ability (try being a mac user where someones set a font at 8px!). cheers Terrence Wood. David Laakso wrote: Terrence, Hold that thought. You're setting 62.5% on the body? Good grief man, you've got

[WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-17 Thread Terrence Wood
and 6 together and develop for a single IE box-model. Are there any other benefits/limitations of doing this? cheers Terrence Wood. -- *** Are you in the Wellington area and interested in web standards? Wellington Web Standards Group

Re: [WSG] Font size

2004-11-18 Thread Terrence Wood
where is proof to back up any of your sweeping generalisations about users? Obviously you are quite passionate about font sizing. I wonder why then you assert font sizes for headings? Surely, you views about font sizing must extend to any font not just the declaration on the body? Terrence

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-18 Thread Terrence Wood
have 10-15% of IE5 browsers, and in fact a couple of my sites still see visits from IE 4.5. Though I have seen any real world brwoser stats for around 6 months. Terrence Wood. Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] wrote: It's really weird. On one side (Robert Scoble's IE wishlist entries) developers are screaming

Re: [WSG] Font size

2004-11-18 Thread Terrence Wood
of the really poor design on the web is created by developers because they know how to publish content but they lack the above mentioned designer skill set. (Do your own research on that one, for example google ASP) Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-19 10:58 AM, Natalie Buxton wrote: Selectively quoting

Re: [WSG] Font size and arrogance | accessibility in general I say

2004-11-18 Thread Terrence Wood
and presentation means that the content will probably stay in tact =). Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-19 1:02 PM, Ben Curtis wrote: Font rescalability and sizing a font based on today's technology will be useful on today's technology. But tomorrow is when it will be used. Standards aren't just about helping

Re: [WSG] Font size and arrogance | accessibility in general I say

2004-11-18 Thread Terrence Wood
also look here: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/ On 2004-11-19 1:02 PM, Ben Curtis wrote: This has been an interesting, if heated, thread. I think a large part of it revolves around being unable to measure people's default font size. The arrogance vs. idealist portion

Re: [WSG] Unsubscribing

2004-11-21 Thread Terrence Wood
searching through an online forum. my 2 cents. Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-22 10:03 AM, Aaron Holbrook wrote: Why not just create this kind of atmosphere in a forum, instead of an email group? Just a thought, people could check it on their own time - instead of filtering through dozens of emails each

Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML

2004-11-22 Thread Terrence Wood
. Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-23 12:19 PM, Lachlan Hardy wrote: john wrote: I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. If you have Dreamweaver, try using the 'Clean Up Word HTML Tool'. Then 'Convert to XHTML

Re: [WSG] why oh why

2004-11-23 Thread Terrence Wood
I doubt it is a problem with FF. Most likely the server is not set up correctly and is sending the file as text/plain not as text/html. It works in IE because IE renders the document based on the file extension not the header information and/or instruction from the server. Terrence Wood

Re: [WSG] forms in Opera?

2004-11-24 Thread Terrence Wood
enclose your labels inside label tags so you can style them properly- this will also help your accessibility. =) Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-25 8:50 AM, designer wrote: Hi All, I have designed a form as part of an ongoing upgrade to a site I manage, and the form works fine in IE6, IE5.5, Firefox

Re: [WSG] Sometimes you just cant help people ...

2004-11-24 Thread Terrence Wood
describe accesskeys in an accessibility page, and don't bother markingup or styling them in any way to exposed them to users. I use content generation in my own user stylesheet to see them. Using the title attribute to descibe the accesskey is a good idea. Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-25 12:43 PM

Re: [WSG] Sometimes you just cant help people ...

2004-11-24 Thread Terrence Wood
but inline and [hopefully] useful.) Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-25 2:19 PM, Paul Novitski wrote: Since navigation presents a jargon problem, perhaps menu or another less techie term might work: Skip past menu Jump over menu What's an appropriate metaphor for a navigation menu if you're

Re: [WSG] It's so frustrating. Webstandars, accesibility and Firefox as a sales argument.

2004-11-25 Thread Terrence Wood
quirks can generally be avoided/minimized... So you really need to tell the story of why your 'expensive' design is so much better than you competitors cheap design when, with practice, the methodology for producing a standards design is arguably the same as a non-standards design. Terrence

Re: [WSG] It's so frustrating. Webstandars, accesibility and Firefox as a sales argument.

2004-11-25 Thread Terrence Wood
/webcontent/access.html Another discussion: http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/accessibility.html Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-26 10:32 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Terrence Wood wrote: Just wanted to point out that flash satay does nothing to improve accessibility. It only ensures validity

Re: [WSG] Applications that don't open in a new window

2004-11-25 Thread Terrence Wood
something work. The list of web apps that don't open new windows is too numerous to mention (any page where you login or search for something) but here's one: google.com Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-26 4:09 PM, Priscilla Brice-Weller wrote: On our website, we ask people to fill in a form to register

Re: [WSG] It's so frustrating. Webstandars, accesibility and Firefox as a sales argument.

2004-11-25 Thread Terrence Wood
is questioned he says: I kicked the pipe for free. I charged for knowing where to kick it. This is how it is for design I think... Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-26 4:45 PM, Chris Stratford wrote: Something I think you all are missing is that you have taken time to learn about standards and accessibility

Re: [WSG] font too small??

2004-11-26 Thread Terrence Wood
that rather than debate the pros and cons of font-sizing again, anyone interested in this issue should search the list archive of the last couple of weeks. Terrence Wood Michael Kear wrote: I had this same problem a short while ago, and some listers might recall a spirited exchange that occurred

Re: [WSG] To PNG Or Not To PNG

2004-11-27 Thread Terrence Wood
://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all these methods rely on javascript being enabled. Terrence Wood. Chris Kennon wrote: Hello All, At the following url: working.ckimedia.com/index.php I've a nav ul that i would like to highlight, with a pencil underline graphic, my

Re: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-29 Thread Terrence Wood
to be abstracted to such degree in markup. It's unneccessarily pedantic IMHO. Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-30 10:15 AM, Lea de Groot wrote: While divlorem ipsum dolor emsit amet/em consectetur/div would appear to have meaning divemlorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur/em/div would appear a little

Re: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-29 Thread Terrence Wood
yes, it is appropriate for a list of articles (but again, not the article itself)... I think we're in agreement on that. Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-30 11:34 AM, Roger Johansson wrote: On 29 nov 2004, at 22.58, Terrence Wood wrote: While we can argue that the date, author and article name may well

Re: [WSG] How exactly does IE fall short and where do I find standards-compatibility charts?

2004-11-29 Thread Terrence Wood
kkk!! Are you saying that expressions in CSS don't work with IE6 SP2??? And, What does H.S. mean? (no punctuation was seriously hurt in the creation ofthis email =) ) Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-30 3:49 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Personally, I'd like to see max/min width/height implemented

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
Software) # -atsc- (Advanced Television Standards Committee) # -wap- (The WAP Forum) # -k (or is it -khtml?) Safari, Konqueror. cheers Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-01 8:13 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, Would you explain the abbreviation IR and what is the name, and where can I read about this rule: a[href

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
The only problem I'm aware of is that you lose the ability to provide feedback the a link has been activated. If this is important then send IE it's own active rule: * html a:active{} cheers Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-01 4:50 AM, Derek Featherstone wrote: On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
Same results here for IE (similar set up) on my own test page, and I don't see any bugs in Opera 7PC, 7.5MAC normal and SSR mode. Opera's SSR is pretty aggressive and not many styles (if any) stick, so the lack of :focus support in this mode is to be expected as a feature, not a bug. Terrence

Re: [WSG] Are conditional comments the way to do this?

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
two hack if you can do it: * html {//stuff}for IE /* \*/ {//stuff}/* */ to hide rules from Mac IE HTH Terrence Wood On 2004-12-01 6:08 PM, Seona Bellamy wrote: Hi guys, I have a site I'm doing for a graphic designer friend of mine, and one of the things I

Re: [WSG] site review

2004-12-01 Thread Terrence Wood
in there too, so make sure your proof read it again. I second Jonathon's point about the use of tables... The code is DWMX, not my cup of tea, but it works for some, say no more. Terrence Wood. Jonathan T. Sage wrote: Ok - design critique. It's late, not looking at the code just yet. Keep in mind

Re: [WSG] Siter Review Please

2004-12-01 Thread Terrence Wood
best ren voice must resist feel a font debate coming on.. serif vs. sans-serif. ughh!!! the pain!!! /best ren voice My 2 cents about people not really being interested in code. I disagree. Totally. Good code for consumers [buzz-word for users not of the elicit drug

Re: [WSG] What's right

2004-12-02 Thread Terrence Wood
A div is a block element, a span is an inline element as is an anchor. An anchor cannot contain a block element, so nesting a div inside an a will cause a validation error. In this case a ref=link.htmlspanlink/span/a is correct. cheers Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-03 9:11 AM, Jonathan T. Sage

Re: [WSG] Fieldset and no form

2004-12-04 Thread Terrence Wood
No, it is not correct. You need to read the spec. Validators do not alert you if you have left form out, that's why it seems like you can use form controls anywhere... but the real question becomes why would you want to when there are so many other tags you can use. Terrence Wood. Cb2 Web

Re: [WSG] No skipping to content needed?

2004-12-05 Thread Terrence Wood
on your nav items.) Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-05 12:04 PM, Lea de Groot wrote: On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 19:28:50 +, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Yes, it becomes a pain for those users who land on a page and actually want to get to the navigation quickly. Particularly if there's a lot of links and form

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Terrence Wood
unless, of course, you are using a DTD that doesn't include target=_blank, such as XHTML 1.0 strict or XHTML 1.0. On 2004-12-07 8:07 AM, Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Rather than a replacement it's best to include both, a href=popup.html target=_blank onclick=window.open(...);return falsepopup/a

Re: [WSG] New Zealand Web Standards??

2004-12-06 Thread Terrence Wood
duh me. OK... I agree with you Mike =) Terrence Wood. russ - maxdesign wrote: I agree with your thinking Russ... web standards are a means to an end not the end itself. They represent a philosophy, framework or tool set. Jut to clarify, that email was sent by me on behalf of Mike Brown, who

Re: [WSG] Styling a href with CSS

2004-12-06 Thread Terrence Wood
if you are using the w3c validator, try the advanced settings and validate against the css3 profile. Which is where your selector comes from, see: http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/CR-css3-selectors-2003/ Terrence Wood. Ben Hamilton wrote: The CSS file: http://wallishamilton.com/code/screen.css

Re: [WSG] New Zealand Web Standards??

2004-12-07 Thread Terrence Wood
, and so will present problems in the future (e.g. web safe color palette, use of keywords for font-sizing, exemption required for xhtml). Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-08 7:32 AM, Joseph Lindsay wrote: There is a lot of transparence around how govt agencies procure services and the local 16year old

Re: [WSG] Screenreader for Mac OS X

2004-12-08 Thread Terrence Wood
No there isn't. But the next release of of OS X will have one built in: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/ Terrence Wood. Jorge Laranjo wrote: But i don't know of any screenreader for MAC OS X. Is there any

Re: [WSG] color: inherit;?

2004-12-08 Thread Terrence Wood
AFAIK it's ok. You can also use transparent if you don't want a background color. Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-09 8:08 AM, Lee Underwood wrote: I know that if you declare the background-color, you also declare the color (and vice-versa). Is it o.k. to use color: inherit; for the color when you

Re: [WSG] Wellington WSG meeting

2004-12-08 Thread Terrence Wood
I'll put something on my site. It's meant to have a blog there already, but you know how it is a builder's house, a mechanic's car, a designers site ;-) So check in tomorrow at some stage. http://funkive.com Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-09 8:42 AM, Joseph Lindsay wrote: This probably goes

Re: [WSG] question - follow, index meta tag

2004-12-13 Thread Terrence Wood
AFIAK it's safe to assume that robots will index and follow by default, so this tag may be redundant. Read more about robots here: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/faq.html Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-14 9:14 AM, Barry Cranmer wrote: If I have the following on my index page, do I need to repeat

Re: [WSG] Reduce Page Weight

2004-12-13 Thread Terrence Wood
to the server, and pretty formatting in code source. Using the first para of content is probably better suited to description than keywords see: http://www.highrankings.com/metadescription.htm cheers Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-14 10:30 AM, John Ozturk wrote: What if I create a conditional statement

Re: [WSG] breadcrumbs - nice implementation

2004-12-14 Thread Terrence Wood
, particularly where there are multiple pathways to the content. For example, in a typical blog (with categories) there is always at least two hierarchies that content lives in: the post date, and the category. Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-15 10:42 AM, David Laakso wrote: Why would I click return to when

Re: [WSG] Visual rendering in gecko with app/xhtml

2004-12-15 Thread Terrence Wood
The behaviour is correct, although my following eplanation may not be =-). In xml body is just another tag -- the root element is html. When sent as html the body tag is the root element. So when sending xml you need to apply styles to html to style the entire viewport. Terrence Wood. On 2004

Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver : was [ Standards Macromedia Contribute]

2004-12-15 Thread Terrence Wood
isn't the DWMX editor essentially homesite anyway? I'm a mac user so I've never seen or used homesite. Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-16 2:39 PM, heretic wrote: Realistically... we probably could have stuck with HomeSite :) -- You know you've achieved perfection in design, not when you have nothing

Re: [WSG] my form field looks like the girl that chewed gum on willy Wonkas

2004-12-16 Thread Terrence Wood
html and removing the id from the input field. Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-17 9:02 AM, Ted Drake wrote: Can a form action cause a form field to grow? Here's a page that has a similar form, look at the way it's input fields behave properly. http://tcdpc/csa/contact-travel-insurance.do Thanks for any

Re: [WSG] ATO - shame shame shame...

2005-01-06 Thread Terrence Wood
Chris, you probably can sue them, but it may well be better to contact them directly, point out the error of their ways and offer to fix it for them. Terrence Wood. Bruce wrote: http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/#Australia WAI country guide Bruce David R wrote: Chris Stratford wrote: Can I sue

Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox

2005-01-10 Thread Terrence Wood
'inner content' is clear from the gradient of your graphics. [1] http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/flexible_custom_corners_borders/ Terrence Wood. Lori Leach wrote: I have a design that am coding, and I need to make a css rounded corner box with shadows INSIDE: The box needs to look like: http

Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?

2005-01-12 Thread Terrence Wood
the number of travellers first, and then return that number of fields to get the ages? Terrence Wood. Andy Budd wrote: On 12 Jan 2005, at 16:42, Ted Drake wrote: I have tried hiding labels in the past. Don't hide your labels. You may be able to trick bobby in giving you a AAA rating but hiding

Re: [WSG] Two CSS Question

2005-01-16 Thread Terrence Wood
, or with javascript disabled (like...aeh...search engines, for instance). Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] A question of semantics

2005-01-17 Thread Terrence Wood
text-only and v4 browsers lack support for fieldsets, so one is really stuck with using br / as the the leanest code solution. Terrence Wood. Patrick H. Lauke wrote: a slippery slope, in my opinion...starting to add what is, in this case, visual markup to compensate for lack of CSS... i

Re: [WSG] A question of semantics

2005-01-18 Thread Terrence Wood
div's have no inherent dimensions and can be enclosed by fieldsets. Terrence Wood. Wayne Godfrey wrote: If you add divs to the input fields, won't that effect the fieldset? Or am I missing something here? I've been avoiding this form thing like the plague, but I've got no choice now...gotta get

Re: [WSG] no more width and height?

2005-01-20 Thread Terrence Wood
If the dimensions are included in CSS then it won't make a difference. If you are using images judiciously (as opposed to gratuitously) then the time to render them will be negligible. I say if the attributes aren't deprecated and the code validates then use them. Terrence Wood. [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] accessibility statements

2005-01-20 Thread Terrence Wood
I think accesskeys are a case of: those who like them will find them, those who don't can (and will) ignore them. I use my user stylesheet to reveal accesskeys and tabindexes. Terrence Wood. The Bo$$ wrote: CSS used, still accessible without. I really don't think accesskeys are all that good

Re: [WSG] Review of website please

2005-01-21 Thread Terrence Wood
380k+ flash animation on the home page is just obnoxious... but following that up with 220k+ on the next page... I'm lost for words. Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-01-23 Thread Terrence Wood
... a pretty hefty price code-wise. Terrence Wood. john wrote: I'm simply wondering about the grammatically-correct double space after a period. For years, it's never mattered to me, but I have a client who is a stickler for this sort of thing, and he asked if I could please add the extra

Re: [WSG] IE returns a blank page

2005-01-23 Thread Terrence Wood
It sounds like the IE6 session bug...in that case try adding: header(Cache-control: private); // IE 6 Fix. after a session_start() call if there is one, or anywhere before sending output to the browser. Terrence Wood. Juha-Markku Liikala wrote: Ok, problem solved...well kind of. I removed a my

Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content

2005-01-24 Thread Terrence Wood
Russ, isn't it NAV AFTER that is better for SEO, as the content is at the top -- this leads to better keyword density, likliness of headings being found etc?. Terrence Wood. russ - maxdesign wrote: NAV BEFORE * theoretically better for Search Engine Optimisation (as the content is at the top

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-25 Thread Terrence Wood
This post is on-topic. The name attribute is deprecated on all elements except form controls. So you can continue to use input name=foo type=text /, but you can't do div name=bar. Terrence Wood. Darren Wood wrote: Hey All... Is the 'name' attribute depreciated in XHTML1.0 strict? If so how do i

Re: [WSG] Web site review please

2005-01-27 Thread Terrence Wood
some clarity when viewing the site without CSS and improve navigation with screen readers. Terrence Wood. John Britsios wrote: Please see here: http://www.webnauts.net/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Building with scaling in mind

2005-01-27 Thread Terrence Wood
in sharing how he gets his results so search his site with something like liquid layout Terrence Wood. Tom Livingston wrote: Hi all, General question for all you seasoned CSS gurus. I was admiring stopdesign.com. I think it's a beautiful layout. But I am having a problem wrapping my head around

Re: [WSG] Drop down menu, JavaScript accessibility

2005-01-28 Thread Terrence Wood
is a programming language that is complied and delivered as an application, Javascript is a scripting language that is interpreted on the fly by web browsers. Terrence Wood. Bennie Shepherd wrote: With java disabled in FF1 the drop downs appear as a long bulleted list and of course everthing else

Re: [WSG] Drop down menu, JavaScript accessibility

2005-01-28 Thread Terrence Wood
) != -1 currTag.getAttribute(title)) { currTag.disabled = true; if(currTag.getAttribute(title) == styleTitle) { currTag.disabled = true; } } } } return true; } setStylesheet('noscript') /script Terrence Wood. Golding, Antony wrote

Re: [WSG] cover me, I have a flash question

2005-01-28 Thread Terrence Wood
Take a look at sIFR http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr or look a flash satay: http://allinthehead.com/retro/234/embedding-macromedia-flash-in-xhtml Terrence Wood. Ted Drake wrote: Our marketing department sent me a postcard with fancy fonts and wanted to put the entire image

Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty! SEO/CSS

2005-02-03 Thread Terrence Wood
business dealings? Good content, updated regularly is the best SEO I know of. See: http://www.penmachine.com/2004/08/is-it-worth-optimizing-your-site-for.html Terrence Wood. Chris Rizzo wrote: laugh Well, I cetainly don't want to use techniques like this myself, but there are clever ways to spam

Re: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

2005-02-04 Thread Terrence Wood
Styling file input is inconsistent cross browser and platform here is a work around: http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html Terrence Wood. Irina Ahrens wrote: Hello, Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox

Re: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help

2005-02-05 Thread Terrence Wood
so you can follow the line numbers as reported, and it should all make sense. You need to look at image replacement techniques. see: http://www.google.com/search?q=css%20image%20replacement Terrence Wood. Zachary Hopkins wrote: Any suggestions? = Sample Code of my link

Re: [WSG] Targeting Mac IE5.1 on OSX

2005-02-14 Thread Terrence Wood
5.2+) have an actively developed OS, and it's safe to assume that most users are probably going to use Safari, Firefox or Opera. Terrence Wood. Joe Leech wrote: I need to target version 5.1 (OS9 ) separately from version 5.23 (OSX) as they seem to have slightly different behaviors with regard

[WSG] Summaries in blockquotes and the cite attribute

2005-02-16 Thread Terrence Wood
a self-referential cite attribute, is that bad? thanks in advance for your thoughts. Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

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