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RE: [WSG]Font support chart?

Mark, is that a promotion in your footer? No my business card has had that on it for a few years - its just that I've been told the my old sig was no longer cutting it Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956

RE: [WSG] Targeting IE5

with this is that if you are that interested in making your content accessible - why use flash in the first place? But if you have to use flash this browser sniffing is the lesser of two evils. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201

[WSG] Firebird bug?

dldefinition list 1/dl h2subheading 2/h2 dldefinition list 2/dl and I am trying to control the top margin on the h2s. The first one is fine, but the second one will not react to any of the changes. Any ideas welcome... Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956

RE: [WSG] Firebird bug? Oh nos, not semantics!

this, but my gut feel is that dl/dd/dt is cool for name/value pairs of *any* sort, even if you are not defining a term. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] HTML 4.01 vs XHTML 1.0 ?

ever one step away. The correct doctype for your run of the mill HTML document is HTML 4.1! Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Firebird bug? Oh nos, not semantics!

to be pig headed until I can be persuaded otherwise. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http

[WSG] Zeldman's Style vs Design

If you can pursuade them to read zeldman, bowman and shea everyday they will learn heaps without even trying. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] CMS question

Hey Tonico Welcome to the list. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Are standards useful? - Web Standards discussed on Web Master World

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/6519.htm Haven't read it yet, but should be interesting. The beauty of WMW is that there are people from a very diverse range of backgrounds, from hardcore spammers and search engine optimisers to standards geeks and techs. Cheers Mark

[WSG] OT: multiple IE versions

/94.php Enjoy... Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] OT: google deskbar

The line between the internet the desktop just got slightly greyer http://toolbar.google.com/deskbar/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] Safari support for border-collapse?

find a workaround I'll be interested to see it but I suspect we'll have to wait until at least safari 1.2 or kde 3.3. Any idea if there is a bugzilla or similar for safari? Cheers, Mark James Ellis wrote: Hi all Does Safari support border-collapse : collapse; in removing the internal padding

Re: [WSG] Safari support for border-collapse?

of Safari this will be included in. Cheers, Mark Mark Lynch wrote: Hi James, I've just been playing around with this on Konqueror and it doesn't seem to be supported. I'm writing a bit of a tutorial on the two border models for tables and when I am finished it I will post it online and submit

RE: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap [Virus checkedAU]

(a) tag. Cheers, Mark Lynch Development Manager - Business Innovation Online Ernst Young - Australia http://www.eyware.com/ http://www.eyonline.com/ Direct: +612 9248 4038 Fax: +612 9248 4073 Mobile: +61 421 050 695

RE: [WSG] html encryption tool

as javascript so anyone with the time or inclination could reverse engineer it. This is either the stupidest concept I have ever see in my life or the one of the best jokes around (they must be Irish (sorry Mark L)). Not only is it completely pointless but it completely breaks any concept of accessibility

RE: [WSG] html encryption tool

One of the *features* of this product IS banning right click events! Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion

RE: [WSG] A few interesting articles...

, view, tools, window, help, etc.. the ordering is very consistent that so are the options (you always know file will have things like new, open, save and exit). If this could be carried over to the web I think it would help users work out a fair bit. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] A few interesting articles...

Mark, when you say my Bluegrass Australia site isn't working for me, do you mean it's dead? Or that it is working but with errors? C:\ping www.bluegrass.org.au Unknown host www.bluegrass.org.au. C:\ping bluegrass.org.au Unknown host bluegrass.org.au. Can't get to the domain. I know

[WSG] Russ strikes again

I swear /. is next. http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2003_12.html#a000259 Can you spell T_tal W_rld D_mination? Well done Russ, keep up the mighty fine work. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956

RE: [WSG] Scrollbar Colouring...

Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Browser Test

in Moz first then test in IE. It is really much easier than doing it the other way around. Get your hands on a copy of Firebird, its actually a really good nice to use browser. Overall Chris I think you're making some good progress - keep it up. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] center align

to the browser window (i.e. 80% of the available width). Apart from that you're method is fine. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

are proposing - unless you can refer to it another way - i.e. does it sit in another div that is referencable? Mark Lynch Development Manager - Business Innovation Online Ernst Young - Australia http://www.eyware.com/ http://www.eyonline.com/ Direct: +612 9248 4038 Fax: +612 9248 4073 Mobile: +61 421 050 695

RE: [WSG] form input [Virus checkedAU]

Or apply a class to it. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Hours of thrilling reading from the W3C

Types, character encoding, namespaces, content/presentation and all that. Even if you just skim this document and read the guidelines in boxes you'll get the general idea of it all. - http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-webarch-20031209/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director

RE: [WSG] px em pt ???

. Perfect case of theoretical accessibility vs. real life accessibility. Using pt for fonts on the web is a mistake. Points are a unit for measuring fonts on paper and do not adapt well to the complexities of screen resolution, etc.. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director

RE: [WSG] px em pt ???

of tweaking. In general we manage to get a pretty good level of accuracy across the browsers we test in. However it does take more time than using pixel's to get it right. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

[WSG] Advanced Tables Tutorial

mistakes (but do let me know so I can remedy them) as I have pieced it together over the last few weeks in the few moments of free time I've had. http://markl.f2o.org/tutorial/tables/Advanced_Tables.html Enjoy, Mark * The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] The 5th pillar - was Fixed Width Design

returned by the server, where possible. This response is cacheable unless indicated otherwise. Seamless end user experience + proxies spiders and other clients understand what is happening. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410

RE: [WSG] Fixed Width Design

and its a url on this guys site. No structure as such but still... http://www.ftrain.com/PaulFord.html http://www.ftrain.com/Role.html http://www.ftrain.com/Place.html Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

RE: [WSG] do people still use bookmarks?

- CVSMonitor - Webmin - Useful Tools - Google Sets - lipsum.com I use a heaps of these everyday. Don't know what I would do without folders in the links toolbar. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical

RE: [WSG] do people still use bookmarks?

URL's change With all due respect Gary... http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html (look for I didn't think URLs have to be persistent - that was URNs) Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

RE: [WSG] Small bug

, but please check over Russ's email at http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg00835.html (extract below) and also Mark Pilgrim's Why we won't help you post at http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you. I guess the main issue is that before we can

RE: [WSG] how would I do this?

. That's the theory anyway - will be interested to see if it works... Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list

RE: [WSG] good coding app

Homesite (+ topstyle if I'm stuck). Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Problems getting Mozilla to like Floats

:D eeeK trust me not to validate before posting!!! Ta for that little float tip :) thats worked a treat! Thanks very much for your help, great stuff that the first reply fix's the problem :D Many Thanks Mark Harwood www.phunky.co.uk On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:08 , russ weakley [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WSG] Web Editor?

I'd have to go with you on this one Taco - Ektron's Ewebeditpro (http://www.ektron.com/web-content-editors.aspx) is currently the best of a bad lot. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

RE: [WSG] Web Editor?

is that in regards to valid mark-up and cross browser? Or just GUI? This is an IE/Win only product so not in the cross browser department. The things I like about this product are the quality of the mark up customisation tools available. The entire interface is controlled via an XML file, so

RE: [WSG] Percentages

ul ul { font-size: 100%; } so everytime you hit a nested ul you reset your size to 100%. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

Hey Taco Have you thought about using a class on the body tag to identify that specific page write custom rules for it. I have found that this is often useful in solving similar problems. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

thoughts on which?). This just makes it super simple to write in that odd exception, without hacking at the content itself. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] ordered list for events

Hi Peter This really looks like a valid use for the infamous table tag to me. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Recommended CSS navigation code?

The CUE templates have an interesting one - not perfect but has some strong points. http://www.qld.gov.au/web/cue/template/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com attachment

[WSG] Mozilla 1.6 is out!

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/#1.6 Looks like most of the enhancements have been in the mail client, but that url hack that affected both IE Moz has also been fixed. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956

RE: [WSG] Rave or Valid point

defaults are generally the better option in this case, however I will use pointer when I have a onclick event on something. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Rave or Valid point

What do reckon it does represent then? The pointer that is. From the spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/ui.html#cursor-props): pointer The cursor is a pointer that indicates a link. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410

Re: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU]

and all will be hunky dory. However, the IE method will effectively exlude the use of an filter attribute in the CSS standards as if it (or something like it) is ever implemented then it may not work the same way as IE has implemented it. Regards, Mark Lynch Development Manager - Business

[WSG] more usable forms

Nice article on making forms a bit nicer. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1273 Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] more usable forms

/resourcecat15.cfm. Lastly Dive into Accessibility goes into a bit more detail about label - http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_28_labeling_form_elements.html Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

RE: [WSG] Some links for Friday afternoon...

on a search for website design sydney australia. The guy is a genius but he is an American guitarist not an Australian web developer. All I can say now is content, content, quality content... we have none. We build sites, we don't write essays. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical

RE: [WSG] document type does not allow element error

up you get a message that looks a lot like your one (document type does not allow element X here). However that message is cryptic to the point of being nonsense, so we'll have to see your code to be able to give you a proper answer. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical

Reading DTDs - WAS: RE: [WSG] document type does not allow element error

://www.ldodds.com/delta/dtd_guide.html http://archive.devx.com/projectcool/developer/xmlz/xmldtd/reading.html#paren t-child Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: [WSG] Last error on Validator

Title: Message Yes you should, If its in your HTML it should me amp; not Thats why we validate :) - Original Message - From: Taco Fleur To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: [WSG] Last error on Validator

RE: [WSG] Flowchart using CSS

in the longdesc attribute. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Programmer's Challenge [Virus checkedAU]

Sounds like another job for Google's pigeons... http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Strange IE5 Mac rendering - should be right now!

Hey Martin We use host headers to run multiple sites from the 1 IP address so this is not an option :( Anyway I think the DNS has resolved now, but if it hasn't you can try http://basketsgalore.gruden.com. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel

RE: [WSG] Strange IE5 Mac rendering

Thanks Chris Width on the para fixed it. Kinda odd though isn't it? Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Special Sydney WSG Meeting!

. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] W3C VALIDATORS

- the author should NOT force this down their throats. The Internet should be a user's medium not an author's medium. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Help with a bit of code plz

Cols is the number of column that you want in your text areas (similar to rows) and depending on your doctype - it may be required. So if you want 50 columns in your text areas you have to add cols=50. hth Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2821/page2.html Adobe seem to have dumped this little gem from their site :( Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

don't know. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Cache Tutorial

Very nice thorough article on how web caching works and how it can be used wisely. http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Cache Tutorial

to test the results out. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Can a list have one item?

on this one !ELEMENT ul (li)+ A+ = A must occur one or more times. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion

RE: [WSG] WHYYY??? WHYYYY???

Hey Peter What happens when you reduce the width by a few pixels? Does it move up? If so I'd say that you've got some IE box model weirdness going on. margin+border+padding+width (in IE6) margin+border+padding+width (in everything else) If that does fix it I'm at a loss. Cheers Mark

RE: [WSG] Cache Tutorial

back approriate ones using the header() function you should be able to have full control over caching. Off the top of my head I'm not certain of exactly what headers are involved each way (status, if-modified, last-modified, e-tag, etc..) but the tools are there. Cheers Mark

RE: [WSG] Aural Property in CSS2???

of interesting stuff in there. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Aural Property in CSS2???

? cringe/ + If you really need sound - don't have it play automatically. Make the user click a play button or something. (Just a personal opinion). Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

RE: [WSG] XHTML Basic 1.0

guess these guys weren't keen to have to support all the features of XHTML when people only really use about 30% of it. The emphasis in DENG is that its very light weight - so this kind of makes sense. Basic is there to cater to this type of scenario. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

loaded into the movie? I don't know enough about flash https to be able to say more than that though. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

Think about it - if I made a page that was https then had an iframe that was http from another server The user thinks they are getting https but in fact they are not. IE does go over the top though - anything linked will do it (images, etc..). Cheers Mark -- Mark

RE: [WSG] Form not formatting correctly in Opera7.1

Its due to #form label,input, select,textarea { display : block; } If you give it display:inline then it will stay within you divs Thats a nice little bug Operas got there! As a rule I always give form elements display:inline Kind regards, Mark Harwood -Original

RE: [WSG] Table style definition lists

have a fix for it, I'm just trying to help illustrate the problem. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion

RE: [WSG] Table style definition lists

Mate - I've been looking at br hr - but I've got to ask myself why bother with definition lists at all if I've got to hack to get it to look right. Thanks for all your help - I think its time to go back to tables vertical alignment :( Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

and one for implementation issues? Anyway its an open issue at the moment - we're still trying to find the right mix. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

is ok). I'm not meaning to be harsh but we need to be considerate of those that are concerned about mail volume. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

[WSG] More links for light reading

How to debug CSS: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/10/css_problems/index.php Google goes anti semantic (h1's are to easily abused): http://www.sitepoint.com/article/brandy-google-update Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956

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