Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-22 Thread sharon . pegg
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2009-10-21 Thread Mark Stickley
I don't think that pressing enter to submit is an accessibility issue at all, it's simply expected behaviour. If people are used to being able to do that in their browser then it should not be forced or suppressed in any way. Keyboard only users is an interesting one... so if the person is

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-21 Thread Nathanael Boehm
Sorry Mark but I'm going to have to counter that argument because I believe it *is* in part an accessibility issue, particularly relating to screen readers which as we know linearly parse a page ... so unless there is instructional text or help before the text field advising them of how to

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-21 Thread Oliver Boermans
2009/10/21 Chris Vickery chris.vick...@privacy.gov.au: In this case it’s for an input field, not a textarea, and enter will still not submit (unless you tab out) so in this case makes it contrary to ‘native browser behaviour’. This would potentially create annoyance to users of Safari on an

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-21 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
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RE: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-21 Thread Chris Vickery
Thanks everyone for the feedback. Lots to work with there. Good stuff. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Boermans Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2009 8:58 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Is

[WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Chris Vickery
We're accessibility testing at the moment. We've got some email forms (ie. Put in your email address to subscribe - submit) that do not currently submit if you press enter. Personally I feel this should be an accessibility issue, but I am finding it difficult to locate any solid documentation

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread jason
Hi Chris, The submission by pressing enter is a native browser behaviour, hence is not an accessibility issue. You will only be able to submit via enter from an input field and not from a textarea, which you have to tab out of and then hit enter. So I doubt you will find any references to

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Julia . Dalbo
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Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Nathanael Boehm
Hi Chris, I'm not sure I'd agree with Jason on if it's a native browser behaviour/function then it's accessible. I see what he's getting at and technically it's accessible, just as progressive enhancement is box-ticking accessibility ... but I believe you'd have to test it to determine whether

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread lisa . kerrigan
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Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Mark Gladman
Hi all, It's probably also worth mentioning that browsers such as Lynx don't use enter to submit a form unless you have focus on the submit button itself. Hitting enter will progress the user through the different input fields until you reach the submit button, and only then will hitting enter

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Jason Grant
This issue has very little (if anything) to do with accessibility. The functionality in question is accessible via hitting a button or hitting an enter key. Perhaps it would be better to ask whether the enter functionality is usable and whether it might cause annoyances for users who are not

RE: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Chris Vickery
Thanks Jason, In this case it's for an input field, not a textarea, and enter will still not submit (unless you tab out) so in this case makes it contrary to 'native browser behaviour'. Essentially our input fields would, (although they identify themselves as input fields) would behave like

Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread mark . greed
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