[WSG] More on character encoding

2005-11-23 Thread Jona Decker
I am assuming there are other web developers in Exchange environments
that might have some insight into a problem I'm having. It's
standards-related, I promise.

We're a company that utilizes an Exchange server for mail and
scheduling. We have lots of email addresses and lots of email
distribution groups. Our Net Admins have established a naming convention
for distribution groups that enforces a desired sort in Outlook. Here is
a recent example:

%Company Code-Cross-Functional Team (Distribution Group)

My problem mostly revolves around this fairly new cross-functional
team naming convention. You may have noticed the problem already. The
group name starts with a percent sign. That means their email address
starts with a percent sign. If everyone stayed completely within Outlook
for email generation, that'd be just fine...Outlook doesn't care. But
webpages with mailto links that fire up a mail client, even Outlook,
*do*. And cross-functional teams in our company are small enough that
they want to link to their email address in simple mailto links on their
various webpages.

The percent sign is an escape character. On its own, a mail client (even
Outlook) looks two characters beyond the percent sign and tries to
figure out what character you really meant. Since in my case, this is
usually %ME it's outside of the conventions for escaped characters.
Outlook interprets %ME as ?.

I don't believe that using a percent sign in an email address is best
form. But my opinion doesn't matter. I'll need to use standards
published by recognized bodies of knowledge to make my case. The W3C
helps a little, calling a percent sign a reserved character not for use
in URIs. IANA establishes that mailtos are indeed URIs in RFC2368. This
is helpful in establishing that mailto is a URI scheme, but this RFC
also suggests escaping the escape (%25) to make a percent sign. IETF in
its RFC3986 suggests the same thing but reads a little more ominous
about using percents. Gah! Are there any other resources people are
aware of that may help me make this argument using standards rationale?

Jona
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Re: [WSG] More on character encoding

2005-11-23 Thread Charlie Bartlett
this link might help 
http://www.remote.org/jochen/mail/info/chars.html

Charlie
http://www.bartlettdesign.co.uk
On 11/23/05, Jona Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am assuming there are other web developers in Exchange environmentsthat might have some insight into a problem I'm having. It's
standards-related, I promise.We're a company that utilizes an Exchange server for mail andscheduling. We have lots of email addresses and lots of emaildistribution groups. Our Net Admins have established a naming convention
for distribution groups that enforces a desired sort in Outlook. Here isa recent example:%Company Code-Cross-Functional Team (Distribution Group)My problem mostly revolves around this fairly new cross-functional
team naming convention. You may have noticed the problem already. Thegroup name starts with a percent sign. That means their email addressstarts with a percent sign. If everyone stayed completely within Outlook
for email generation, that'd be just fine...Outlook doesn't care. Butwebpages with mailto links that fire up a mail client, even Outlook,*do*. And cross-functional teams in our company are small enough that
they want to link to their email address in simple mailto links on theirvarious webpages.The percent sign is an escape character. On its own, a mail client (evenOutlook) looks two characters beyond the percent sign and tries to
figure out what character you really meant. Since in my case, this isusually %ME it's outside of the conventions for escaped characters.Outlook interprets %ME as ?.I don't believe that using a percent sign in an email address is best
form. But my opinion doesn't matter. I'll need to use standardspublished by recognized bodies of knowledge to make my case. The W3Chelps a little, calling a percent sign a reserved character not for usein URIs. IANA establishes that mailtos are indeed URIs in RFC2368. This
is helpful in establishing that mailto is a URI scheme, but this RFCalso suggests escaping the escape (%25) to make a percent sign. IETF inits RFC3986 suggests the same thing but reads a little more ominous
about using percents. Gah! Are there any other resources people areaware of that may help me make this argument using standards rationale?Jona**The discussion list for
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Re: [WSG] More on character encoding

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Tan

Jona Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]Are there any other resources people are aware of that may help me 
make this argument using standards rationale?


According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address the character is 
valid in the local part of an address according to  RFC 2822. However, WCAG 
Checkpoint 14.1 would be appropriate if the email address will be rendered 
on the page at any time:


14.1 Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site's 
content. [Priority 1]

http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-facilitate-comprehension

Again, if it will be visible checkpoint 13.1 also applies:

13.1 Clearly identify the target of each link. [Priority 2]
Link text should be meaningful enough to make sense when read out of context
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-facilitate-navigation

Jon Tan
www.gr0w.com
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