[WSG] Using XLST to define microformats
Hi all, my first post, so: I'm Paul Minty, I do the IA, project management, some front-end development and even a little copywriting for a small web design and development studio in Melbourne. Does anyone know of an effort to define micro-formats using an XML name space and an XLST? I think that approach would be a great way to achieve some semantic mark-up using the existing XHTML namespace. It's how I prefer to process large amounts of data when we produce a larger web-site and I think it is a technique that could be applied in a more general way. thanks Paul Paul Minty Director mintleaf studio We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats
Hi Paul, Good question. I am working currently on tesco.com and this is one of the ongoing debates we have, inside W3C as well, as XSLT is used all over the place and we are trying to achieve maximum accessibility and so on. I am not aware that something 'standardised' exists on this matter as yet, and would be surprised if it did yet, as the current state of play on this matter seems to be very non-standardised. Only the other day I wanted to do an events listing module and fried my brain in the various (mostly kind of useless) microformats and feed formats for events information (I came to conclusion that using something of my own is probably the best at this point, but obviously stops short of advantages of using microformats and standards, etc.). So if you come across something at least semi-standardised on this matter, please do message us if you are able to do so. It would be very much appreciated. Kind regards, Jason www.flexewebs.com On 8/27/07, Paul Minty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, my first post, so: I'm Paul Minty, I do the IA, project management, some front-end development and even a little copywriting for a small web design and development studio in Melbourne. Does anyone know of an effort to define micro-formats using an XML name space and an XLST? I think that approach would be a great way to achieve some semantic mark-up using the existing XHTML namespace. It's how I prefer to process large amounts of data when we produce a larger web-site and I think it is a technique that could be applied in a more general way. thanks Paul *Paul Minty **Director* *mint**leaf studio** * We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats
Hey Paul, I'm not 100% sure what you mean by defining microformats as an xml namespace, but I do know that the microformats community uses the x2v stylesheets as the reference implementation for many microformats, including hcalendar and hcard. http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/ That's about as close to a definition of microformats in xslt as you're likely to find. I'm certain if you look around microformats.org you'll find xslt sheets for the other microformats as well. In addition, I understand that it's perfectly possible to embed microformats in an xhtml namespace in other xml formats. The impression I get is that suda's x2v sheets will handle that as welll, but i've never tested, so I'm likely wrong. -Breton On 8/27/07, Paul Minty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, my first post, so: I'm Paul Minty, I do the IA, project management, some front-end development and even a little copywriting for a small web design and development studio in Melbourne. Does anyone know of an effort to define micro-formats using an XML name space and an XLST? I think that approach would be a great way to achieve some semantic mark-up using the existing XHTML namespace. It's how I prefer to process large amounts of data when we produce a larger web-site and I think it is a technique that could be applied in a more general way. thanks Paul *Paul Minty **Director* *mint**leaf studio** * We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats
One more thing: the microformats mailing list http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss/ Is just as friendly and open as this one, just as easy to join, but has the added advantage that it's full of experts on microformats. -Breton *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats
Jason, good feedback. For that kind of case I would define an XML namespace that is specific for your project; process the client's data according to that model; then transform the XML namespace into XHTML during the front-end development and content production phase of the project. I agree with you that I haven't come across a lot of mico-formats that are suitable for a specific project, unless it is an address, an event, a news article or a product. Breton has given me some good sources to chase up from the micro-format world. thanks Paul Paul Minty Director mintleaf studio We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Grant Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 11:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats Hi Paul, Good question. I am working currently on tesco.com and this is one of the ongoing debates we have, inside W3C as well, as XSLT is used all over the place and we are trying to achieve maximum accessibility and so on. I am not aware that something 'standardised' exists on this matter as yet, and would be surprised if it did yet, as the current state of play on this matter seems to be very non-standardised. Only the other day I wanted to do an events listing module and fried my brain in the various (mostly kind of useless) microformats and feed formats for events information (I came to conclusion that using something of my own is probably the best at this point, but obviously stops short of advantages of using microformats and standards, etc.). So if you come across something at least semi-standardised on this matter, please do message us if you are able to do so. It would be very much appreciated. Kind regards, Jason www.flexewebs.com On 8/27/07, Paul Minty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, my first post, so: I'm Paul Minty, I do the IA, project management, some front-end development and even a little copywriting for a small web design and development studio in Melbourne. Does anyone know of an effort to define micro-formats using an XML name space and an XLST? I think that approach would be a great way to achieve some semantic mark-up using the existing XHTML namespace. It's how I prefer to process large amounts of data when we produce a larger web-site and I think it is a technique that could be applied in a more general way. thanks Paul Paul Minty Director mint leaf studio We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
