RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-07-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
 Opera Web Standards Curriculum: http://www.opera.com/wsc/ 

It is interesting to note that they fail to follow the most basic web
standard for implementing an image tag - specifying width and height -
so that the page annoyingly jumps when the image is loaded.

But heads up for only one validation error.

Cheers,
 
Jens 

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RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-07-10 Thread Paul Bennett
Hi Jen,

Your comment may have come across as a bit more negative than it was intended, 
however:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fairfax.com.au%2Findex.ac
(46 errors)

He who lives in a glass house etc, etc...

My opinion (and it is just that) is the we need to stop being so critical about 
trifling matters like this. I applaud Opera for their involvement in web 
standards and for their commitment to put a resource like this together even 
when it doesn't seem to offer a direct business benefit for them.

Lets keep it positive folks. It won't be pretty if we start assigning value to 
people by how their sites look through the validator.

Happy Friday :)
Paul


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Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-07-10 Thread Bruce

Paul wrote:
Lets keep it positive folks. It won't be pretty if we start assigning value 
to people by how their sites look through the validator.


No kidding!
I recently checked one page on my site and had 102 errors.
Some could come along and say, What a lousy job, I'll never hire nor 
recommend him!


Truth is, I had updated my cms and didn't check pages being valid as in 
general they are, but a bug in cms update made it wrap paragraph tags around 
my div's, which it hadn't before. I didn't notice for quite a while.
Removing the p tags fixed errors. So judging would have been completely 
unfair and wrong...


Bruce
bkdesign

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Hi Jen,

Your comment may have come across as a bit more negative than it was 
intended, however:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fairfax.com.au%2Findex.ac
(46 errors)

He who lives in a glass house etc, etc...

My opinion (and it is just that) is the we need to stop being so critical 
about trifling matters like this. I applaud Opera for their involvement in 
web standards and for their commitment to put a resource like this together 
even when it doesn't seem to offer a direct business benefit for them.


Lets keep it positive folks. It won't be pretty if we start assigning value 
to people by how their sites look through the validator.


Happy Friday :)
Paul


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Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Алексей Тен
You should try

html { overflow-y: scroll; }


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 16:53, Mark Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've always used:

 html{min-height:100.1%;}

 to force a vertical scroll-bar in Firefox for fixed width sites that are
 centred in the browser window - it stops them jumping sideways when you
 navigate between pages that are longer and shorter than the viewport.

 With the release of Firefox 3 however, I've found that this no longer works
 and I need to increase the minimum height percentage slightly:

 html{min-height:100.2%;}

 does the trick!
 _

 Regards,
 Mark Voss




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RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
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 html { overflow-y: scroll; }

Ah, back in the days I tried it Opera wasn't playing ball. I now see that (at 
least Opera 9.5) understands this now.

Good stuff.

P

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Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Gregorio Espadas
I use:

*html{ overflow:-moz-scrollbars-vertical; }*

... and it works fine for me :-)

Gregorio Espadas
http://espadas.com.mx



On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Алексей Тен [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You should try

 html { overflow-y: scroll; }


 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 16:53, Mark Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've always used:
 
  html{min-height:100.1%;}
 


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RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
 

 Mark Voss

 html{min-height:100.2%;}

even more subtle

html { min-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 1px; } 

http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/49/

P

Patrick H. Lauke
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University of Salford
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Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Matijs
Drawback is of course that only Mozilla based browsers understand this.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Gregorio Espadas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I use:

 *html{ overflow:-moz-scrollbars-vertical; }*

 ... and it works fine for me :-)

 Gregorio Espadas
 http://espadas.com.mx



 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Алексей Тен [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You should try

 html { overflow-y: scroll; }


 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 16:53, Mark Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've always used:
 
  html{min-height:100.1%;}
 



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