Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-10 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
for RegEx, grep searches as described here on the Mac, try BBEdit or  
Textmate, or the free Text Wrangler.



On Apr 10, 2008, at 02:05, Michael MD wrote:






one thing I
miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and
get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for
rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that
and I really notice not having it.



My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does  
what
you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string,  
and

the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.



Sounds interesting - I'll check it out.


Normally I use grep for searching in multiple files (returns a list of
matching files and lines) - nothing else I've seen is faster than this
classic unix command-line tool (windows users: there are windows  
versions of
it - or you can install cygwin, which comes with it. Mac OSX users  
probably

already have it!)

.. but yes ... it would be nice to be able to do this kind of thing  
without
leaving my text editor... some kind of regex search/replace would be  
nice

too!

(but for me to use it in the real world it must start up quickly - I'm
impatient! :)






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RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-09 Thread Michael MD

 
 one thing I 
miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and 
get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for 
rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that 
and I really notice not having it.

 
 My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does what
 you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string, and
 the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
 tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.
 

Sounds interesting - I'll check it out.


Normally I use grep for searching in multiple files (returns a list of
matching files and lines) - nothing else I've seen is faster than this
classic unix command-line tool (windows users: there are windows versions of
it - or you can install cygwin, which comes with it. Mac OSX users probably
already have it!)

.. but yes ... it would be nice to be able to do this kind of thing without
leaving my text editor... some kind of regex search/replace would be nice
too!

(but for me to use it in the real world it must start up quickly - I'm
impatient! :)






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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-08 Thread Andrew Maben

On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:10 AM, John Hancock wrote:


Please, please, please everyone.

Discuss web standards on the web standards group mailing list, and  
my text/WYSIWY editor is better than yours on the HTML Editors  
mailing list...


If there isn't one, feel free to set it up.

thanks,

Grumpy John.



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RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-07 Thread michael.brockington
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 one thing I 
miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and 
get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for 
rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that 
and I really notice not having it.


My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does what
you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string, and
the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.

Regards,
Mike


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-07 Thread Adam Martin

as does zend studio :)

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one thing I 
miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and 
get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for 
rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that 
and I really notice not having it.





My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does what
you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string, and
the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.

Regards,
Mike


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-07 Thread Jason Pruim


On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Adam Martin wrote:

as does zend studio :)


XCode as well for all of you on a Mac :)





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one thing I miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search  
all' and get a list of all instances of the thing you are  
searching for rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that and I  
really notice not having it.





My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does  
what
you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string,  
and

the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.

Regards,
Mike


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-07 Thread John Hancock

Please, please, please everyone.

Discuss web standards on the web standards group mailing list, and my  
text/WYSIWY editor is better than yours on the HTML Editors mailing  
list...


If there isn't one, feel free to set it up.

thanks,

Grumpy John.



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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-07 Thread Michael Horowitz
Actually a good part of a discussion is what editors best facilitate 
coding in standards.


I think we need to focus the discussion on that facet.


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



John Hancock wrote:

Please, please, please everyone.

Discuss web standards on the web standards group mailing list, and my 
text/WYSIWY editor is better than yours on the HTML Editors mailing 
list...


If there isn't one, feel free to set it up.

thanks,

Grumpy John.



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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread Nancy Gill

Hi Kate:

Adobe doesn't offer downloads of older versions once a newer version has 
come out.  The only way I know to get a 30 day trial at this point is to 
find a CD with a 30 day trial of it on a Dreamweaver 8 book .. many of them 
come with CDs that contain sample files and a trial of the program.  Of 
course, after the 30 days, the upgrade would be to CS3 so then you would be 
back where you started.


Perhaps you could also find one on EBay or in a 3rd party store on clearance 
.. be careful especially with the former that it's not a bootlegged copy but 
comes with a valid serial.


AFAIK, those are about the only options since DW8 is a version and a half 
behind.


Nancy

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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: [WSG] Dreamweaver8



Nancy Gill hi,

Where will I get the dl for Dreamweaver8 please? I can't find it at 
Adobe.I don't really want CS3 because its heavy on CPU, or what things can 
I take out of CS3?

Thanks Nancy!
Kate


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Yeah, you can get Dreamweaver 8 on Ebay, but I couldn't find any legal
links for download.
To be honest, I wouldn't use Dreamweaver, I use Aptana Studio and from
the coding side it works great and it's free.

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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread kate

Thanks Nancy,

I do have some Web mags I bought last year there should be one on there as 
the mag is Dreamweaver monthly or was.


I was looking on the Web and found this lol don't know who it was - no name:
The latest version of Dreamweaver - Dreamweaver 8 - has been launched today. 
I was lucky enough to be involved with the Beta and so have been working 
with this new version for several months. So, is it worth the upgrade?


http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2005/09/13/dreamweaver-8/

Oh wait Nancy..could be Drew M???

Now, where did I put those mags :D

Thanks Nancy!

Kate

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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8



Hi Kate:

Adobe doesn't offer downloads of older versions once a newer version has 
come out.  The only way I know to get a 30 day trial at this point is to 
find a CD with a 30 day trial of it on a Dreamweaver 8 book .. many of 
them come with CDs that contain sample files and a trial of the program. 
Of course, after the 30 days, the upgrade would be to CS3 so then you 
would be back where you started.


Perhaps you could also find one on EBay or in a 3rd party store on 
clearance .. be careful especially with the former that it's not a 
bootlegged copy but comes with a valid serial.


AFAIK, those are about the only options since DW8 is a version and a half 
behind.


Nancy

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From: kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: [WSG] Dreamweaver8



Nancy Gill hi,

Where will I get the dl for Dreamweaver8 please? I can't find it at 
Adobe.I don't really want CS3 because its heavy on CPU, or what things 
can I take out of CS3?

Thanks Nancy!
Kate


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread kate

Hi Krystian,

Ebay lol yes, I looked there today but somehow  i'm never sure if the 
software would be all there when you bought it.


I'll look at your Aptana Studio so thanks for that.
Kate

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Yeah, you can get Dreamweaver 8 on Ebay, but I couldn't find any legal
links for download.
To be honest, I wouldn't use Dreamweaver, I use Aptana Studio and from
the coding side it works great and it's free.

Regards,

--
Krystian - Sunlust
Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net
Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread Nancy Gill

http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2005/09/13/dreamweaver-8/

Oh wait Nancy..could be Drew M???



Yes .. that is Drew McLellan.




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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread Nancy Gill

I'll look at your Aptana Studio so thanks for that.



Aptana Studio looks and works much like Eclipse .. if you have any 
experience with Flex Builder .. then it would be good to look at.


Nancy



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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread kate

Nope Nancy no experience at all with anything except  Dreamweaver.

I learnt some DW last year with a CS3 trial but its a bit heavy like I 
mentioned. I should find a DW8 tomorrow in a mag.


Ah I was right about  Drew is'nt he from 'All in the Head' too? Funny name 
for a site lolol


Kate.
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I'll look at your Aptana Studio so thanks for that.



Aptana Studio looks and works much like Eclipse .. if you have any 
experience with Flex Builder .. then it would be good to look at.


Nancy



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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread Nancy Gill
I learnt some DW last year with a CS3 trial but its a bit heavy like I 
mentioned. I should find a DW8 tomorrow in a mag.


The biggest reason to upgrade would be Spry.  Other than that .. there 
wasn't a lot in the CS3 version other than some CSS stuff and a few 
improvements here and there.


Ah I was right about  Drew is'nt he from 'All in the Head' too? Funny name 
for a site lolol


That's Drew.   ;)
He did have some unique names .. he doesn't appear to do a lot with 
Dreamweaver any longer.


Nancy



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RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-06 Thread Tim MacKay
Hi,

I would recommend Aptana Studio as well for hand coding. I just downloaded
it and so far its great. Although one thing I miss about dreamweaver is that
you can do a 'search all' and get a list of all instances of the thing you
are searching for rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that and I really
notice not having it.

HTH,

Tim

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Behalf Of Nancy Gill
Sent: Monday, 7 April 2008 6:20 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

 I learnt some DW last year with a CS3 trial but its a bit heavy like I 
 mentioned. I should find a DW8 tomorrow in a mag.

The biggest reason to upgrade would be Spry.  Other than that .. there 
wasn't a lot in the CS3 version other than some CSS stuff and a few 
improvements here and there.

 Ah I was right about  Drew is'nt he from 'All in the Head' too? Funny name

 for a site lolol

That's Drew.   ;)
He did have some unique names .. he doesn't appear to do a lot with 
Dreamweaver any longer.

Nancy



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