Re: [WSG] Looking to source a JAWS version

2008-09-24 Thread David Dorward
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jaws.asp

 I don't know about the demo version on that page, but they used to offer a
 full version that would work for 30 minutes at a time (you needed to reboot
 the computer after 30 minutes if you wanted to use it again).
   
With, I believe, a license that explicitly forbids using it for the
purposes of testing websites for screen reader compatibility.

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Re: [WSG] Looking to source a JAWS version

2008-09-24 Thread Shawn Henry
in our attempts to improve our accessibility we want to get a version 
of JAWS.


It's not easy to master all of the JAWS commands so try the 40 minute 
demo first.


Hi Ben,

It's great that you are wanting to do accessibility testing, I assume in 
addition to following standards[1].

There is a fairly steep learning curve for full-fledged screen readers, and an 
infrequent tester cannot get a sense of what it's really like to use a screen 
reader without observing a regular screen reader user. Thus, I personally[2] 
find it's easiest and better to find regular screen reader users (that is, 
someone who is blind) for your main development and testing, and then use a 
simple free/cheap voicing browser or screen reader only for in house testing of 
specific things as you develop.

For more on this, see:
* http://www.uiaccess.com/accessucd/involve.html

Regards,
~Shawn

[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag.php
[2] Note this email is not representing my employer, even though I'm on this 
list with my employer email address.

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Re: [WSG] Looking to source a JAWS version

2008-09-24 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:13 AM, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jaws.asp

 I don't know about the demo version on that page, but they used to offer a
 full version that would work for 30 minutes at a time (you needed to reboot
 the computer after 30 minutes if you wanted to use it again).

 With, I believe, a license that explicitly forbids using it for the
 purposes of testing websites for screen reader compatibility.

It's true, or at least it was when I looked at the license about a
year ago. We switched to using Window-Eyes for testing for just this
reason.


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Philip
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Whole-site HTML validation, link checking and more


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RE: [WSG] Looking to source a JAWS version

2008-09-23 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 in our attempts to improve our accessibility we want to get a version of
JAWS. 

 My prime question being, is there a developer version that will adequately
do the job with out having to buy the full version?
 Further to that, are there any suggestions as to where we can purchase it?


http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jaws.asp

I don't know about the demo version on that page, but they used to offer a
full version that would work for 30 minutes at a time (you needed to reboot
the computer after 30 minutes if you wanted to use it again).


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Regards,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com









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