Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-21 Thread Rob Enslin
Hi Ben, cynical/suspicious about what suppliers claim in the pre-signoff phase I agree - that's why I questioned it. With my internal clients a little naive displaying this long list of 'pieces of functionality' broken down it conveys the impression that there's a lot of 'extra' work involved.

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-21 Thread Ben Buchanan
2008/11/21 Rob Enslin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ben, cynical/suspicious about what suppliers claim in the pre-signoff phase I agree - that's why I questioned it. With my internal clients a little naive displaying this long list of 'pieces of functionality' broken down it conveys the impression

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Tom ('Mas) Pickering
Rob - What I would interpret that to mean is that, by clicking on the link in the footer, the visitor will be presented the content either without any graphics or without any graphics or CSS. If it were merely a matter of the CSS being removed, that shouldn't be a billable item. However,

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Rob Enslin wrote: I'm involved in a CMS-based website project where the supplier has provided me with a breakdown of costs - before I sign it off. One of the items highlighted in the breakdown is a footer-accessed link for a text-only version. The supplier claims it's the same technology

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Text-only version Rob - What I would interpret that to mean is that, by clicking on the link in the footer, the visitor will be presented the content either without any graphics or without any graphics or CSS. If it were merely a matter of the CSS being

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Steve Green wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. Unless you set your user agent to do that, because presumably that's something you'd need on all sites, not just one particular one. P --

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: 20 November 2008 20:54 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Text-only version Steve Green wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread David Dorward
Steve Green wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. CSS is quite capable of that. The following works fine in Opera 9.62 (the only browser I've bothered to test for this proof of concept).

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Christian Montoya
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. Does this solve some problem? -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
November 2008 21:07 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Text-only version On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. Does

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: 20 November 2008 21:06 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Text-only version Steve Green wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Rob Enslin
Hi Patrick, Appreciate the feedback - thought as much, but always worth checking with the pros. Best, --Rob On 20 Nov 2008, at 20:39, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Enslin wrote: I'm involved in a CMS-based website project where the supplier has provided me with a

RE: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Green
November 2008 21:33 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Text-only version On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can do a lot of what Betsie does using CSS but the one thing you can't do is replace the images with their 'alt' attributes. Does

Re: [WSG] Text-only version

2008-11-20 Thread Ben Buchanan
Do you think it's a service I should be paying for? Although not expensive, I'm wondering why the 'functionality' needs to be highlighted at all? Surely, it's the same as saying we'll charge you separately for css or html markup? I'm naturally cynical/suspicious about what suppliers claim in