RE: [WSG] couple of bugs in Opera v9.5

2008-09-14 Thread Bruno Fassino
tee wrote:

 http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/opera.html


 And the unclickable, unselectable behavior in Opera is
 driving me nut.
 I still can't figure what is causing it. Anybody figure it?


I'm not sure to understand what do you mean here, what exactly is
unclickable/unselectable? (the go there link in that page works normally
in my Opera 5.2).  Do you mean when tabbing with the keyboard ?


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Re: [WSG] couple of bugs in Opera v9.5

2008-09-14 Thread tee


On Sep 13, 2008, at 11:56 PM, Bruno Fassino wrote:


And the unclickable, unselectable behavior in Opera is
driving me nut.
I still can't figure what is causing it. Anybody figure it?



I'm not sure to understand what do you mean here, what exactly is
unclickable/unselectable? (the go there link in that page works  
normally

in my Opera 5.2).  Do you mean when tabbing with the keyboard ?

Thanks for asking this. No, it's not tabbing.What I meant is the whole  
page is not selectable when I place the cursor anywhere in the content  
area. Using 'Select All' also not working, and the link 'go here' is  
not clickable. The only clickable areas in the pages  are the three  
checkboxes and radio buttons.



http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/ss1.html


But I can do all these with other sites using Opera. Don't know if  
it's Dragonfly causing it or not, as I have just installed it yesterday.


My system is Mac OS 10.5.4, Opera version 9.50 4870 build.

tee




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RE: [WSG] couple of bugs in Opera v9.5

2008-09-13 Thread Bruno Fassino
tee wrote:
 As mentioned in my Opera not playing nice with checkbox post, I have
 collected a list of bugs that I stumbled doing just one
 website.

 http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/opera.html


The problem of the space at the right of your two columns (about 17px) is
caused by a long-lived issue in Opera. With percentage width it simply
ignores all decimals, so width: 49.9% is computed like width: 49%.
Your 'box' is about 1000px wide, so you loose about 0.9% * 2 * 1000px =
18px.

Older version of Opera had even more such precision problems, 9.5
corrected many of them, but this one with percentage width and another one
with em borders are still alive. I have some test pages here [1], [2]. Of
the current browsers Opera is the only one not displaying a smooth triangle
there (few pixels rounding errors are normal, but Opera deliberately ignores
all percentage fractions.)


Bruno

[1] http://brunildo.org/test/percwidth2.pl
[2] http://brunildo.org/test/embord.pl


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Re: [WSG] couple of bugs in Opera v9.5

2008-09-13 Thread tee


On Sep 13, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Bruno Fassino wrote:


tee wrote:

As mentioned in my Opera not playing nice with checkbox post, I have
collected a list of bugs that I stumbled doing just one
website.

http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/opera.html



The problem of the space at the right of your two columns (about  
17px) is

caused by a long-lived issue in Opera. With percentage width it simply
ignores all decimals, so width: 49.9% is computed like width: 49%.
Your 'box' is about 1000px wide, so you loose about 0.9% * 2 *  
1000px =

18px.

Older version of Opera had even more such precision problems, 9.5
corrected many of them, but this one with percentage width and  
another one
with em borders are still alive. I have some test pages here [1],  
[2]. Of
the current browsers Opera is the only one not displaying a smooth  
triangle
there (few pixels rounding errors are normal, but Opera deliberately  
ignores

all percentage fractions.)




Hi Bruno, thanks. I saw one of your page from google search when  
trying to figure out what went wrong with Opera.


For checkbox and radio button, anybody know which one is correct  
behavior? With the same site that I stumbled these Opera issues, I  
actually notice that FF3 is rendering the select, checkbox as Safari  
and Camino do, but not always. Upon making test for the above page, I  
conclude that if background elements or borders are declared, the two  
browsers switch back to the their old skins.


And the unclickable, unselectable behavior in Opera is driving me nut.  
I still can't figure what is causing it. Anybody figure it?


Thanks!
tee



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