Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
James Ellis wrote: and remember that Wine is an emulation layer, it may not give the same results as virtualising Windows (which is a standard Windows install). It depends on how good the emulation is. For instance, before using virtualisation to test IE in XP, I was using Wine and ies4linux and not getting very good Javascript results. Cheers James Actually, Wine is not emulation. [1] WINE = Wine is not an emulator. Chris 1: http://www.winehq.org/site/myths *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
I just ordered a new iMac I asked them to include Win XP OEM for £77 and Parallels Desktop for £33. Of course this OEM price is only for when you buy the computer... An iMac WITH a fully functioning, 100% legal Windows XP for ONLY an additional £110 (AND you can run multiple instances of IE - I have one with 5.5, one with 6, one with 7, another with office 97, all with antispam/spybot software.) Seems like no contest to me... Joe On Feb 8 2008, at 06:20, James Ellis wrote: and remember that Wine is an emulation layer, it may not give the same results as virtualising Windows (which is a standard Windows install). It depends on how good the emulation is. For instance, before using virtualisation to test IE in XP, I was using Wine and ies4linux and not getting very good Javascript results. Cheers James On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:07:05 am kevin mcmonagle wrote: note to anyone who wants to run ies4mac. install wine verstion .51 the current version doesnt work. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
note to anyone who wants to run ies4mac. install wine verstion .51 the current version doesnt work. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
I found that out! darwine won't load them On Feb 7 2008, at 13:07, kevin mcmonagle wrote: note to anyone who wants to run ies4mac. install wine verstion .51 the current version doesnt work. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
Can't seem to find a mac link to download wine...my impression was that you needed darwine for this. Am i missing something? James De Angelis, Designer reactive www.reactive.com Level 1, 490 Crown Street p: +61 2 9339 1001 Surry Hills NSW, 2010 f: +61 2 9380 4787 Australia e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reactive Blog: Observations and musings for people who know the internet isn’t just a fad www.reactive.com/blog Environmental Notice: Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. Reactive maintains up-to-date virus checking software and we recommend that you also employ resident virus protection. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checking on this e-mail and any attachments. On 08/02/2008, at 7:13 AM, Joe Ortenzi wrote: I found that out! darwine won't load them On Feb 7 2008, at 13:07, kevin mcmonagle wrote: note to anyone who wants to run ies4mac. install wine verstion .51 the current version doesnt work. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
and remember that Wine is an emulation layer, it may not give the same results as virtualising Windows (which is a standard Windows install). It depends on how good the emulation is. For instance, before using virtualisation to test IE in XP, I was using Wine and ies4linux and not getting very good Javascript results. Cheers James On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:07:05 am kevin mcmonagle wrote: note to anyone who wants to run ies4mac. install wine verstion .51 the current version doesnt work. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
I perfer fusion over parallels. Cheapest option to run IE only has got to be http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/ which is free. I haven't tested it, so I'm not sure how accurate the rendering is compared to running a real version of windows. On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent: Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? -- kind regards, Terrence Wood *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
it renders the same but the gui is forked. Terrence Wood wrote: I perfer fusion over parallels. Cheapest option to run IE only has got to be http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/ which is free. I haven't tested it, so I'm not sure how accurate the rendering is compared to running a real version of windows. On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent: Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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thanks for the good reply's guys. I think im gonna try this one first:
http://macapper.com/2007/11/29/ies4osx-run-internet-explorer-567-natively-in-os-x/
-best
kevin
Joe Ortenzi wrote:
horses for courses. Worked fine on three of my leopards,
two installed under tiger then updated to leopard, one afterwards. I
reccommend running it as reccommended and not tweaking very much. but
give it plenty of RAM!
but If vmware works for you, brill!
one of my developers compared and reckons parallels was a better
product for web developers who also need tools to run in XP
On Jan 25 2008, at 16:16, Gregory Alan Gross wrote:
Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it
refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install
properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since.
g.
On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent:
Hi,
Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based
mac.
Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual
pc?
Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment.
-best
kevin
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Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
hi,
just a quick follow up. After 20mins downloading and installing and no
cost im running ie6 and 7 natively in tiger with ies4osx. It aint pretty
but it works.
-best
kevin
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
thanks for the good reply's guys. I think im gonna try this one first:
http://macapper.com/2007/11/29/ies4osx-run-internet-explorer-567-natively-in-os-x/
-best
kevin
Joe Ortenzi wrote:
horses for courses. Worked fine on three of my leopards, two
installed under tiger then updated to leopard, one afterwards. I
reccommend running it as reccommended and not tweaking very much. but
give it plenty of RAM!
but If vmware works for you, brill!
one of my developers compared and reckons parallels was a better
product for web developers who also need tools to run in XP
On Jan 25 2008, at 16:16, Gregory Alan Gross wrote:
Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it
refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install
properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since.
g.
On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent:
Hi,
Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based
mac.
Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual
pc?
Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment.
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
Personally I reccommend paralells or vmware fusion, my setup. Virtual PC does not work worth a damn after os 9. I bought an OEM copy of XP when I bought the Mac, less than £100. Not sure what currency you use. and parallels was cheap. you can use bootcamp if you like but I prefer within os x. Bootcamp exposes too much of the insecure OS to the world whereas a virtual image running within oSX still has some degree of sand-boxing if you set it up right. I installed an image of XP SP2 and do not use it. I then copied it as another instance, loaded AV, spyware and firewall software, all free and dependable enough, and then use that to tst IE6. I then copied that and install IE7. I can then run both instances, simultaneously (get plenty of RAM!) and test both main browsers at once. If something goes wrong with one of the instances I wipe it, copy the first root instance of XP and start fresh with a virgin instance... Not bad for less than £150 and a days work setting up and locking it down! Joe On Jan 25 2008, at 06:08, kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
That looks great Kevin. How does it compare for speed (native versus virtual) and stability. what do you mean written in Qt? On Jan 25 2008, at 09:34, James Ellis wrote: Hi Kevin One option is to use VirtualBox (virtualbox.org) which is virtualisation software written in Qt. Looks to have Mac OSX host capabilities (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewforum.php?f=8) I use the open source edition in KDE and run all the Windows browsers in an XP guest for testing. Only thing I can't do is get a Mac guest running although there is talk about it in VirtualBox (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php? p=13612#13612) - won't affect you tho' HTH James On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:08:52 pm kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
horses for courses. Worked fine on three of my leopards, two installed under tiger then updated to leopard, one afterwards. I reccommend running it as reccommended and not tweaking very much. but give it plenty of RAM! but If vmware works for you, brill! one of my developers compared and reckons parallels was a better product for web developers who also need tools to run in XP On Jan 25 2008, at 16:16, Gregory Alan Gross wrote: Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since. g. On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
Hi Kevin One option is to use VirtualBox (virtualbox.org) which is virtualisation software written in Qt. Looks to have Mac OSX host capabilities (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewforum.php?f=8) I use the open source edition in KDE and run all the Windows browsers in an XP guest for testing. Only thing I can't do is get a Mac guest running although there is talk about it in VirtualBox (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=13612#13612) - won't affect you tho' HTH James On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:08:52 pm kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since. g. On Fri , kevin mcmonagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
On Jan 25, 2008 6:08 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. Yes - Parallels, VMWare Fusion, or Boot Camp. I use Parallels and I love it - you can run Windows as just another application on your desktop, and switching from one OS to the other is as simple as moving the mouse into the Windows window. There is also ies4osx [1] but I was never able to get it to work properly. [1] http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/ -- - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
