Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout
I always code by hand and my editor of choice is NoteTab Pro (www.notetab.com). As well as Find and Replace it has a neat function which strips (X)HTML out of markup leaving just text and script excerpts etc. Having redesigned a couple of sites in this way, I have yet to trip it up. Bryan Davis Micheal Kear wrote: I've mostly used the good old MkI delete key - the most-used key on my keyboard. When I started renovating web sites, and using word docs and FrontPage sites, I tried using automated methods - search and replace and the like - and found there was always something left. A single b or a i somewhere that affected half the remaining page. Or a font tag that didn't exactly match the search criteria so it would be left. Or a table that I really did want kept would be deleted.These fixes I found would often take just as long as going through the page and deleting stuff in the first place. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout
Lea de Groot wrote: What are people's preferred techniques for 'screen scraping' existing sites to get the text from a tag-soup table layout? When a page has copious links and such, simply copying the text from the browser doesn't always give enough content to be a useful quick method. I do the same as Patrick. The regular expressions in DWMX 2004 are really powerful - once you work out what you're doing. The Find Replace is the sole reason I use DW over any other text editor - given that I handcode only Cheers, Lachlan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout
Hi Lea, What are people's preferred techniques for 'screen scraping' existing sites to get the text from a tag-soup table layout? $ lynx --dump url works wonders if you have easy access to lynx (and the site that you're scraping doesn't have too horrible a structure :). Cheers, Andrew * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:18:35 +1000, Lachlan Hardy wrote: I do the same as Patrick. The regular expressions in DWMX 2004 are really powerful - once you work out what you're doing. Yes, once someone said 'regexp' i went Doh! and got on with the job :) What can I say, except I have a headcold? :) Thanks, all Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout
I've mostly used the good old MkI delete key - the most-used key on my keyboard. When I started renovating web sites, and using word docs and FrontPage sites, I tried using automated methods - search and replace and the like - and found there was always something left. A single b or a i somewhere that affected half the remaining page. Or a font tag that didn't exactly match the search criteria so it would be left. Or a table that I really did want kept would be deleted.These fixes I found would often take just as long as going through the page and deleting stuff in the first place. Another way is to select/copy from the rendered page in a browser. That way you only pick up the content if you get the select right, and you don't pick up all the associated table structure. Dreamweaver has powerful search and replace functions. For example, you can have it delete all font tags, regardless of the attributes, or all span tags. And with a single click you can convert the file to XHTML. It'll go through the file closing off tags, fixing case, adding quotes to attributes etc. And Dreamweaver's Word Clean-up function is magic. Watch it reduce a simple word html document of 500 lines to about 50 or fewer with no change in the rendered content! Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Subject: Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout [snip] Yes, once someone said 'regexp' i went Doh! and got on with the job :) What can I say, except I have a headcold? :) Thanks, all Lea -- Lea de Groot * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
