Re: [WSG] testing tips
On 06/03/03 02:27 Steve Olive apparently typed: Epiphany/Galeon which both use the Firefox rendering engine. There is no Firefox rendering engine. Epiphany, Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox, Galeon, K-Meleon, Mozilla, Netscape 6.x 7.x, SeaMonkey and others use the Mozilla/5.0 rendering engine, known by its developers and others as the Gecko rendering engine. Check your browser's UA string (about:), e.g. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060124 Firefox/1.5.0.1. Firefox/1.5.0.1 for Linux en-US is a Gecko/20060124-based product. http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/faq.html#What%20is http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/gecko.html http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/ -- Blessed are they whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord. Psalm 119:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] testing tips
Thanks for the link to TAW3 Steve, haven't seen that one before. Shall have to ckeck it out! I know this costs money, but an account with Browsercan cam make this process much easier as well. Just submit a couple of URLs from your site, come back in a little while and check the display in more browsers that you probably need to worry about. Then depending on the degree of the rendering issue, and how important the browser is, you can decide on whether to address it or not. You can also use what they call Remote Access to log in to one of their machines and test flyout menus, javascript and other interactive elements. We've found it pretty useful. On 03/03/06, Steve Olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/03/2006, at 11:09 AM, Anja Kennedy wrote: Hi can anybody give me some tips regarding website testing? what browsers and versions to test in? which mac OS are required? and what model mac would be most suitable? thanks! Anja Testing can be done with Firefox Opera on all platforms - Windows, Mac OS X Linux. You then have some OS specific browsers - Windows = IE6, Mac OS X = Safari, Linux = Konqueror and/or Epiphany/Galeon which both use the Firefox rendering engine. Safari uses the khtml (Konqueror) rendering engine. All of these browsers are free so you can install Firefox Opera and your OS's default browser (IE - Safari) which gives you very good compatibility testing quickly. After downloading Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/central/); don't forget to use the tools that are available with Firefox Extensions - IMHO every web developer should be using the following extensions when testing pages (or just normal browsing for that matter): 1. Web Developer - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? id=60application=firefox 2. HTML Validator - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/ moreinfo.php?id=249application=firefox 3. TAW3 - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? id=1158application=firefox 4. View Rendered Source Chart - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/ moreinfo.php?id=655application=firefox 5. View Formatted Source - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/ moreinfo.php?id=697application=firefox These are just a few of the developer tools available but make validating HTML/XHTML and CSS quick and easy. The accessibility with TAW3 takes some getting used to ;-) Hope this helps! Steve Olive Bathurst Computer Solutions e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 Web: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au _ ... (0) ... / /\ .. / / .) .. V_/_ Linux Powered! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Jason Foss http://www.almost-anything.com.au http://www.waterfallweb.net Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] testing tips
On 03/03/2006, at 8:09 PM, Felix Miata wrote: On 06/03/03 02:27 Steve Olive apparently typed: Epiphany/Galeon which both use the Firefox rendering engine. There is no Firefox rendering engine. Epiphany, Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox, Galeon, K-Meleon, Mozilla, Netscape 6.x 7.x, SeaMonkey and others use the Mozilla/5.0 rendering engine, known by its developers and others as the Gecko rendering engine. Check your browser's UA string (about:), e.g. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060124 Firefox/1.5.0.1. Firefox/1.5.0.1 for Linux en-US is a Gecko/20060124-based product. http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/faq.html#What%20is http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/gecko.html http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/ -- Blessed are they whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord. Psalm 119:11 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/auth ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** I was keeping it simple - they all use the same rendering engine. For the correct name: http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/gecko.html Steve Olive Bathurst Computer Solutions e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 Web: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au _ ... (0) ... / /\ .. / / .) .. V_/_ Linux Powered! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] testing tips
Well, you could keep on testing forever, but the basics are: Windows: IE 5.5, 6.0 Firefox 1.5 Opera 8.5 Mac: Safari, IE? Linux: Firefox 1.5 Konquerer Thats just for browser rendering, there are many other things too Validate on W3C, code and CSS Do some basic accessiblity testing, Firefox has one toolbar you can download to check, has an extension to review your code as well. Have fun, Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC http://sitesbyjoe.com (609)335-3076 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anja Kennedy wrote: Hi can anybody give me some tips regarding website testing? what browsers and versions to test in? which mac OS are required? and what model mac would be most suitable? thanks! Anja ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] testing tips
Anja Kennedy wrote: can anybody give me some tips regarding website testing? what browsers and versions to test in? which mac OS are required? and what model mac would be most suitable? The 'A-grade' browsers in the following table... http://developer.yahoo.net/yui/articles/gbs/gbs_browser-chart.html ...might be a good test-base - for a start. Add in new browser-versions as they arrive. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] testing tips
On 03/03/2006, at 11:09 AM, Anja Kennedy wrote: Hi can anybody give me some tips regarding website testing? what browsers and versions to test in? which mac OS are required? and what model mac would be most suitable? thanks! Anja Testing can be done with Firefox Opera on all platforms - Windows, Mac OS X Linux. You then have some OS specific browsers - Windows = IE6, Mac OS X = Safari, Linux = Konqueror and/or Epiphany/Galeon which both use the Firefox rendering engine. Safari uses the khtml (Konqueror) rendering engine. All of these browsers are free so you can install Firefox Opera and your OS's default browser (IE - Safari) which gives you very good compatibility testing quickly. After downloading Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/central/); don't forget to use the tools that are available with Firefox Extensions - IMHO every web developer should be using the following extensions when testing pages (or just normal browsing for that matter): 1. Web Developer - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? id=60application=firefox 2. HTML Validator - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/ moreinfo.php?id=249application=firefox 3. TAW3 - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? id=1158application=firefox 4. View Rendered Source Chart - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/ moreinfo.php?id=655application=firefox 5. View Formatted Source - https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/ moreinfo.php?id=697application=firefox These are just a few of the developer tools available but make validating HTML/XHTML and CSS quick and easy. The accessibility with TAW3 takes some getting used to ;-) Hope this helps! Steve Olive Bathurst Computer Solutions e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 Web: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au _ ... (0) ... / /\ .. / / .) .. V_/_ Linux Powered! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
