Re: [WSG] transparent background of png

2007-03-01 Thread Dwain Alford

hi robin,
my hp laptop leans toward the blue when viewing images, especially gray, so
i doubt if it's anything that you are doing.  it would be nice if there was
a setting for a laptop lcd that would allow for a neutral color setting,
like 50% rgb respectively.

dwain

On 3/1/07, Robin @ Xplore.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello,



I have started putting together a site and I have an image with shading
around the outside and a transparent background which I need to layer over a
grey background.

http://training.xtools.co.nz/xplore_test/index.htm



I tried a .gif with transparency but it looked terrible with the white
edges of the shading showing through, I have now replaced that with a PNG32
which look ok but when I view this using a laptop the transparent background
is blue.

Is there something I am doing wrong?

If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
viewing devices?



Cheers guys.



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Re: [WSG] transparent background of png

2007-03-01 Thread James Ellis

Hi Robin

Internet Explorer 6- doesn't support PNG with alpha channel transparency (
i.e PNG 24 and 32) although it will support PNG8 with one transparent colour
(like GIF).
There are a myriad of articles on the web about getting IE6 to render PNG32
using it's AlphaImageLoader malarkey - ugly but it works. Try searching for
Internet Explorerer Transparent PNG on google and you'll find a resource
that will solve the problem.

The good thing is that IE7 will do it properly...

Cheers
James

On 3/2/07, Robin @ Xplore.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello,



I have started putting together a site and I have an image with shading
around the outside and a transparent background which I need to layer over a
grey background.

http://training.xtools.co.nz/xplore_test/index.htm



I tried a .gif with transparency but it looked terrible with the white
edges of the shading showing through, I have now replaced that with a PNG32
which look ok but when I view this using a laptop the transparent background
is blue.

Is there something I am doing wrong?

If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
viewing devices?



Cheers guys.



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*Senior Web Developer*

*Xplore Net Solutions *

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RE: [WSG] transparent background of png

2007-03-01 Thread Ricky Onsman
I agree with Dwain. My HP NX6325 laptop shows the same grey as my desktop
PC, but my HP NX9010 laptop shows a light blue. The green panel also tends
to yellow on the NX9010. Not much you can do about that, as far as I know.
 
James' comments is also true. The PNG file in IE6 comes up as a big grey
square (sadly, not even the same grey as the background colour) with the
frame wheel in the middle. AlphaImageLoader malarkey would seem to be
required.
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Friday, 2 March 2007 10:31 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] transparent background of png


hi robin,
my hp laptop leans toward the blue when viewing images, especially gray, so
i doubt if it's anything that you are doing.  it would be nice if there was
a setting for a laptop lcd that would allow for a neutral color setting,
like 50% rgb respectively. 

dwain


On 3/1/07, Robin @ Xplore.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hello,

 

I have started putting together a site and I have an image with shading
around the outside and a transparent background which I need to layer over a
grey background.

http://training.xtools.co.nz/xplore_test/index.htm
http://training.xtools.co.nz/xplore_test/index.htm 

 

I tried a .gif with transparency but it looked terrible with the white edges
of the shading showing through, I have now replaced that with a PNG32 which
look ok but when I view this using a laptop the transparent background is
blue.

Is there something I am doing wrong?

If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
viewing devices?

 

Cheers guys.

 

Robin Gorry

Senior Web Developer

Xplore Net Solutions 

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Re: [WSG] transparent background of png

2007-03-01 Thread Gav...

I think some platforms/browsers have trouble with PNG 32 also, graphics
cards etc that are not true color, user setting set to 16 bit and below,
these factors and more can cause image problems with PNG 32. Try it with
a PNG 8.

Gav...

quote who=Dwain Alford
 hi robin,
 my hp laptop leans toward the blue when viewing images, especially gray,
 so
 i doubt if it's anything that you are doing.  it would be nice if there
 was
 a setting for a laptop lcd that would allow for a neutral color setting,
 like 50% rgb respectively.

 dwain

 On 3/1/07, Robin @ Xplore.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello,



 I have started putting together a site and I have an image with shading
 around the outside and a transparent background which I need to layer
 over a
 grey background.

 http://training.xtools.co.nz/xplore_test/index.htm



 I tried a .gif with transparency but it looked terrible with the white
 edges of the shading showing through, I have now replaced that with a
 PNG32
 which look ok but when I view this using a laptop the transparent
 background
 is blue.

 Is there something I am doing wrong?

 If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
 viewing devices?



 Cheers guys.



 *Robin Gorry*

 *Senior Web Developer*

 *Xplore Net Solutions *

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 *f*:  00 64 (0)6 834 24 86

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Re: [WSG] transparent background of png

2007-03-01 Thread Kenny Graham

but when I view this using a laptop the transparent background is
blue.


You must be using IE6 on the laptop


Is there something I am doing wrong?


Not unless you're a microsoft employee


If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
viewing devices?


You can feed MS proprietary filters to IE.
http://www.bioneural.net/2006/08/09/valid-fix-for-png-transparency-on-a-single-image/
is the first thing i found, but a search for transparent png ie
should turn up plenty of workarounds.  I use a php solution that
automatically converts all of my img elements that contain pngs into
MS's proprietary stuff if IE is the browser, but I cant find it at the
moment.


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RE: [WSG] transparent background of png

2007-03-01 Thread Robin @ Xplore.net
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread and helped me out.

Robin Gorry

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Subject: Re: [WSG] transparent background of png

 but when I view this using a laptop the transparent background is
 blue.

You must be using IE6 on the laptop

 Is there something I am doing wrong?

Not unless you're a microsoft employee

 If not what are my other options to make this work in all browsers and
 viewing devices?

You can feed MS proprietary filters to IE.
http://www.bioneural.net/2006/08/09/valid-fix-for-png-transparency-on-a-sing
le-image/
is the first thing i found, but a search for transparent png ie
should turn up plenty of workarounds.  I use a php solution that
automatically converts all of my img elements that contain pngs into
MS's proprietary stuff if IE is the browser, but I cant find it at the
moment.


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