Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

pied his > own, and the calling station's call sign. > > > > 73, Russ K2TXB > > > > > > > > *From:* Bill Somerville > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:10 AM > *To:* wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging pr

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

ange SK’s!" There is no allowance for anyone to send a report before he has copied his own, and the calling station's call sign. 73, Russ K2TXB From: Bill Somerville Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:10 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging pr

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

There must be some misunderstanding. DXpeditions and contesters do not expect to hear their own callsign. Normal CW contest QSO is: CQ DX1DX ME1ME (calling him WITHOUT giving his call) ME1ME 599 (he has to give my call so I know I am accepted) 599 TU N1XT 599 next QSO starts with implicit R

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

criterion: both stations have acknowledged that they have received the other's callsign and grid. 73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ -Original Message- From: Russ Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 9:36 To: k...@arrl.net ; 'WSJT software development' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging pr

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

est awards makes no sense at all. 73, Russ K2TXB -Original Message- From: Jim Brown Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:17 PM To:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt Indeed they are good contacts. W0YK is a leading contester, was part of getting F

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

confirmation. To have a contest where the rules allow contacts that are not valid for non-contest awards makes no sense at all. 73, Russ K2TXB > -Original Message- > From: Jim Brown > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:17 PM > To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

Indeed they are good contacts. W0YK is a leading contester, was part of getting FT4 and FT8 integrated with major RTTY contests. You guys are looking at things from the perspective of non-contesters. 73, Jim K9YC On 5/10/2021 7:34 AM, Russ wrote: Paul Kube wrote: 1. Answering a CQ:

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

Russ,  Glad you chimed in. I was thinking the same thing. Contest rules almost always require a complete exchange during your QSO (I say almost only because there may be some contests that have exceptions). NIL penalties for Digi modes has been quite high compared to phone or CW. Choose your poi

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

Paul Kube wrote: a. Answering a CQ: CQ WW W0YK DM97 Tx6 W0YK K6PO R DM12 Tx3 K6PO W0YK RR73 Tx4 b. Tailending a QSO. K6PO has already copied W0YK’s grid. Then: W1AW W0YK RR73 Tx4 W0YK K6PO R DM12 Tx3 K6PO W0YK R

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

> > WSJT-X is open source. You can make those changes you are suggesting, > thereby customizing your station operations. Yes I know that. But: However, do not be surprised if you actually loose a lot of > confirmations... My station. My logbook. My rules. Yes and so my proposal is to make

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

On 7 May 2021 at 11:39, Paul Kube wrote: > I agree with Martin and others, but let me suggest a slight compromise. > > Instead of changing the default sequence for all FT4 QSO's, change it for > FT8/FT4 in WWDIGI contest mode only, and advertise the change. This won't > disrupt anyone's ideas abo

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

WSJT-X is open source.  You can make those changes you are suggesting, thereby customizing your station operations.   There is no licensing restrictions that would stop you from doing so (see GPL 3). However, do not be surprised if you actually loose a lot of confirmations.   Yes, I am one of

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

I agree with Martin and others, but let me suggest a slight compromise. Instead of changing the default sequence for all FT4 QSO's, change it for FT8/FT4 in WWDIGI contest mode only, and advertise the change. This won't disrupt anyone's ideas about how general FT QSO's should be done; contesters w

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

Indeed one cannot be certain, but the further exchange increases the probability of the QSO being complete for both parties. Alan G0TLK, sent from my mobile device On 7 May 2021 18:30:43 Bill Frantz wrote: On 5/7/21 at 2:54 AM, al...@alangroups.plus.com (Alan) wrote: The final 73 is a confi

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

all contests use that rule. 73, Reino OH3mA -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bill Frantz [mailto:ae...@arrl.net] Lähetetty: 07 May 2021 20:29 Vastaanottaja: WSJT software development Aihe: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt On 5/7/21 at 2:54 AM, al...@alangroups.plus.com (Alan) wrote

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On 5/7/21 at 2:54 AM, al...@alangroups.plus.com (Alan) wrote: The final 73 is a confirmation for some that the QSO is indeed fully completed. If omitted there's intrinsic doubt that the RR has been received. How can I be sure that the other end received the final 73 message?

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

On the face of it looks like a good idea, but... The final 73 is a confirmation for some that the QSO is indeed fully completed. If omitted there's intrinsic doubt that the RR has been received. Omission might give a few more QSO's in a session but for contests that's irrelevant since it's t

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

Some hams on there end will not log a QSO unless they receive the confirmation 73 after their RRR/RR73. I am not saying its wrong or right just that it's the practice of some hams Dave, AA6RE On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:34 PM Martin Davies G0HDB wrote: > The FT4 mode was introduced in WSJT-X vers

[wsjt-devel] FT4 logging prompt

The FT4 mode was introduced in WSJT-X version 2.1.0 in 2019; the release notes and announcements state that the mode is intended for use in HF digital contesting where 'quick-fire' exchanges such as those achieved using RTTY are desired. I'd like to suggest a change that would help achieve t