Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread Hasan al-Basri
All four stations were strong. K1JT started out at +15 on 20 meters, but within 20 minutes had dropped to -23 (late afternoon band change). 30 dB change in about 20 minutes...talk about catching the band moving! Completed with all 4 stations, but one completion was aided by a trick on my end.

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2 Waterfall

2018-03-07 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Lawrence Lopez wrote: > > I found the really liked the new format of the waterfall. > It was much less critical to adjust in order to get data. The waterfall has no bearing on the ability to decode. It isn’t even needed. Gary - AG0N

[wsjt-devel] Public Test of FT8 DXpedition mode-received signal report

2018-03-07 Thread Glenn via wsjt-devel
I could copy all 4 stations fairly well.  I was able to get a signal report from the fox on all bands, but only completed the contact on 40 meters.  On the other bands I got stuck sending my signal report.  It appeared as though the fox was initiating new QSO's and not finishing previous

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2 Waterfall

2018-03-07 Thread rjai...@gmail.com
Smeared is going to get some people angry emails about power, even though they aren’t running power. Hope it works out Ria N2RJ On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:30 PM Gary McDuffie wrote: > > > > On Mar 7, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Lawrence Lopez wrote: > > > > I found

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2 Waterfall

2018-03-07 Thread Libor Holouš
Hi Gary.. Not for decoding but find and fit into most free space. BTW, I have it smooth too now, no changes, just upgraded.. I liked it more like before it was.. Now I feel like glasses needed.. But somebody maybe like it or don't want to wear glasses and that way it is more comfortable? :-)

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results

2018-03-07 Thread John Zantek
Magnificent summary. Bravo! -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 12:28 PM To: WSJT software development Subject: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results Hi all, Here are a few highlights of

Re: [wsjt-devel] Add ft8d and ft8sim to makefile?

2018-03-07 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Rockwell, The development routine ft8d is not what you want for a stand-alone command-line decoder. It is not kept up-to-date. Every now and then, when we are testing a new feature or debugging a particular issue, we’ll bring it up to date for that purpose. But at any given instant in time,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio input from RTP stream?

2018-03-07 Thread Phil Karn
On 3/7/18 01:33, Игорь Ч via wsjt-devel wrote: > Playing out silence in place of the lost packets is not a good idea: > it will distrurb sychronization and will bring wrong Delta Time values > to the weak signals at demodulation. I would suggest usage of some > averaging instead of the silence.

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Numbers

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 17:42, John Zantek wrote: The OTA tests were a hoot, even with the hound-on-hound nonsense and the unfortunate DQRM from XE. Did anyone collect and mention the final numbers for the foxes?  I thought N1DG said ~190 for 30M, but I sense the total 40M QSO’s may have been quite

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Looks like you are building on Linux with JTSDK? You need to edit /usr/local/bin/jtsdk and change the http: entries to https:Also edit the jtsdk-wsjtx file to do the same de Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 12:08:44 PM CST, Wolfgang wrote: Hello Mike,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Wolfgang
Hello Mike, (JTSDK-QT 5.5 ) C:\JTSDK)svn relocate http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx https://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx svn: E155024: Invalid source URL prefix: 'http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx' (does not overlap target's URL

Re: [wsjt-devel] Public test of FT8 DXpedition mode March 6-7

2018-03-07 Thread Pino Zollo
Hi, I made the QSO (TU Joe K1JT), but after it the DECODER went stuck no more decoding even if the band was full of stations. I had to close the program and started it again ... After a while the problem appeared again; this time the button DECODE did remain blue fixed. ...I was changing

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Numbers

2018-03-07 Thread John Zantek
Thank you, Bill. I agree…reaching 120 Qph will put a serious dent in the armor of those who argue that the FT8 rate isn’t worth the effort vs SSB or CW. I know there were some DXpedition vets in the foray last night, and I hope it was an eye-opener for them. N0AN’s comment exactly echoes

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 18:08, Wolfgang wrote: (JTSDK-QT 5.5 ) C:\JTSDK)svn relocatehttp://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx https://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx svn: E155024: Invalid source URL prefix: 'http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx' (does not overlap

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I just got notified that from sourceforge that this problem has been fixed now. de Mike W9MDB -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org!

[wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results

2018-03-07 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi all, Here are a few highlights of results from last night's public test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: - The overwhelming majority of participating Hounds operated as intended, and according to instructions. I copied 190 unique Hound callsigns during the 2300 hour (when I was acting as Fox on

Re: [wsjt-devel] Macro Expansion

2018-03-07 Thread Tom Melvin
Hi Mike Just throwing it out there - ‘FD’ while may be common on cw etc for some contests the CQ xx characters are generally taken as State / Providence / Region - while FD is not a US State - it could well apply to another country. Hardcoding it into one app does cause more confusion. The

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results

2018-03-07 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Alex, On 3/7/2018 4:10 PM, Alex, VE3NEA wrote: - Of course, some Hounds did not operate as intended.  Several kept trying to raise Fox by calling below 1000 Hz. Perhaps the software should block attempts to send Tx1 below 1000 Hz if Hound mode is enabled, and show a popup message

[wsjt-devel] DXPedition test results

2018-03-07 Thread David Fisher
Joe and everyone: Thanks for the summary of what worked and didn’t last night. The bug in the RR73 logic explains a lot. Here are a few things I noticed: Apart from our friend in Mexico, who simply made a mistake, I noticed a few other instances of people transmitting on top of the Fox’s

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results

2018-03-07 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Mar 7, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Joe Taylor wrote: > > I'm sure there is more to be said, but that will do for now. Depending on > programming progress and on my own travel schedule, we may schedule another > public test within a few weeks. Thanks for the great job, Joe.

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results

2018-03-07 Thread Alex, VE3NEA
- Of course, some Hounds did not operate as intended.  Several kept trying to raise Fox by calling below 1000 Hz. Perhaps the software should block attempts to send Tx1 below 1000 Hz if Hound mode is enabled, and show a popup message explaining why transmission did not start. 73 Alex

[wsjt-devel] Something for the wish list ... offset for TX only

2018-03-07 Thread Glenn VE9GJ
Hi Been having lots of fun with WSJT-X. I recently became active on 630m using my Kenwood TS-590SG and a Transmit transverter 80m in, 630m out (3.2mhz offset). http://njdtechnologies.net/the-mf-solutions-630-meter-transmit-downconverter If I add an offset to the Frequencies Setting for 630m

Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio input from RTP stream?

2018-03-07 Thread Phil Karn
On 3/6/18 08:05, Bill Somerville wrote: > > Our experience of users using the Elecraft remote kit using IP streaming > is that latency and delay are a problem, this being because of our > dependence on external wall clock synchronization. Can RTP provide > absolute time-stamp information that we

[wsjt-devel] UDP list command

2018-03-07 Thread José Aparecido Pereira
Hello friends I am developing an integration software with WSJT-X that is working very well, but I still lack one last thing send a request to connect to another station via UDP port Can anyone please tell me how to list the UDP communication command with WSJT-x? thank you so much PY5JAP JOSE

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Results

2018-03-07 Thread gary
Some of the participants may have been deliberately breaking the rules as part of the test. It wasn't made clear, in advance, whether we should simply pretend the fox was real to simulate a genuine deep DX pileup, or do weird stuff to check how resilient the whole thing is. I guess the team

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 17:03, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: What does your "svn info" show? Hi Mike, I use git-svn and I use svn+ssh access as I have write access but here is the equivalent: $ git svn info Path: . URL: svn+ssh://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx Repository Root:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Alessandro Gorobey via wsjt-devel
Hi All, seems as http is no a good protocol today. (JTSDK-QT 5.5 ) C:\JTSDK)svn list http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/tags svn: E175013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/tags' svn: E175013: Access to '/p/wsjt/wsjt/tags' forbidden But svn list

[wsjt-devel] Macro Expansion

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Is there a downside to doing a macro expansion like this? I've got this working and it only affects the display and not what's transmitted.  Takes advantage of unused country codes which I suppose someday might be used..though X countries are fairly rare and calling for them even more rare.  Q

Re: [wsjt-devel] Macro Expansion

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 17:19, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Is there a downside to doing a macro expansion like this? Hi Mike, the obvious one is other applications not following suit. Changing the interpretation of messages unilaterally is a recipe for confusion. At least with the "E9aa"

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Yup...that works svn relocate http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx https://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx They must've shutdown non-https access. de Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 11:15:49 AM CST, Bill Somerville wrote: On

Re: [wsjt-devel] Macro Expansion

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
What other applications?  Is anybody interpreting the directed calls for any purpose besides JTAlert giving it a "#" ?? To me it's a tradeoff between "confusion" where non-macro users would see the 2-letter code and wonder what it's for and possibly ask questionsand the ability to have "CQ

[wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode Test Numbers

2018-03-07 Thread John Zantek
The OTA tests were a hoot, even with the hound-on-hound nonsense and the unfortunate DQRM from XE. Did anyone collect and mention the final numbers for the foxes? I thought N1DG said ~190 for 30M, but I sense the total 40M QSO’s may have been quite significant, since my screen was REALLY

Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio input from RTP stream?

2018-03-07 Thread Phil Karn
On 3/6/18 08:05, Bill Somerville wrote: > not very hard at all. The audio in WSJT-X is via a Qt I/O Device > abstraction and making a UDP server that joins a multicast group to > receive and send audio would only require a thin layer to manage > datagram reception and transmission converting

Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio input from RTP stream?

2018-03-07 Thread Phil Karn
To Bill (and Joe), It just occurred to me that I could multicast my receiver output to you in the frequency domain. UDP already provides the necessary framing. We just define that as a new RTP "codec type". I use fast convolution with overlap-and-save for filtering, so as long as I tell you the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio input from RTP stream?

2018-03-07 Thread Игорь Ч via wsjt-devel
Hello Phil, >I implemented RTP in about a page of C code, not counting all of the >UNIX/Linux system calls needed to set up multicast sockets. That's >actually the only hard part. With RTP I just check that the next packet >is in sequence, drop any old duplicates, and play out silence in place >of

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 with YAESU FT920

2018-03-07 Thread Claude Frantz
On 03/07/2018 10:39 AM, Hans Piehler wrote: Hi Hans, > I started FT8 with a small equipment FT817. In this configuration I made > some QSO. > > The picture FT817 show the settings and the screen. It seems to work right. > > Than I changed to my home station FT920. There ist the picture FT920 >

[wsjt-devel] Fox mode suggestion

2018-03-07 Thread George J Molnar
Perhaps one of the Fox channels can include a randomized ID (even like CQ PH0X FM29), not to exceed 9 minutes? Might help pileup management. George J Molnar Washington, DC @GJMolnar | KF2T > -- Check out the vibrant

Re: [wsjt-devel] Public test of FT8 DXpedition mode March 6-7

2018-03-07 Thread Rich - K1HTV
While on 20M FT8 a few days ago I saw 5B4AIF and called him. It appeared that he was using the DXpedition mode (N=1). While sending a RR73 message to one station, it was followed by a semicolon and my call and report. I had called the 5B4, hundreds of Hertz higher in frequency. When he answered

Re: [wsjt-devel] Public test of FT8 DXpedition mode March 6-7

2018-03-07 Thread Gary Rogers
Morning all, I was only able to participate in the last 20 minutes of the 20m test and most of the 30m test. Due to propagation, l was not able to decode the fox on either band although I saw many hounds calling and providing their signal reports. I had set up wsjtx the night before in hound

Re: [wsjt-devel] Public test of FT8 DXpedition mode March 6-7

2018-03-07 Thread Jay Hainline
My observations. I was only able to participate during the first 20 minutes of the 20 meter test at 2300z. Joe was decoding around -18 during the time and I was calling using barefoot power. According to pskreporter, Joe heard me but I was never called. So my question is why I was never called?

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 with YAESU FT920

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 09:39, Hans Piehler wrote: Now all stations are in the above range more than 2000. I think this is not the normal range to compare with the FT817. If I change the mode from DIG to USB, I have all stations in the normal range but no modulation comes to the backside connector.

[wsjt-devel] FT8 with YAESU FT920

2018-03-07 Thread Hans Piehler
Hello dear OM's, I started with FT8 and a small equipment FT817. In this configuration I made some QSO. The picture FT817 show the settings and the screen. It seems to work right. Than I changed to my home station FT920. There ist the picture FT920 with the settings and screen. Now all

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2 Waterfall

2018-03-07 Thread Lawrence Lopez
I found the really liked the new format of the waterfall. It was much less critical to adjust in order to get data. True the contrast was lower but could see much more information was available. The previous version 1.8.0 did note seem to able to show weak signals. On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:26

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2 Waterfall

2018-03-07 Thread James Shaver
It took me a few days to get it the way I wanted it but I like it way better. Jim S. N2ADV -Original Message- From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:27 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Been that way for a day and others are having problems too What does your "svn info" show? Path: . Working Copy Root Path: C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx URL: http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx Relative URL: ^/branches/wsjtx Repository Root: http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt Repository UUID:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread Joe Taylor
Jim -- I don't think you had to scramble. If Fox calls you, your Tx3 message will be sent (somewhere in 300-900 Hz), even if Tx Enable is not engaged. -- Joe On 3/7/2018 11:05 AM, James Shaver wrote: Yep, twice the timer had expired on me right as the “Fox” called me and I

Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread Hasan al-Basri
Bill, TX timeout timer is about right. Prevents non-stop (when not being heard) QRM from Hounds. Also, when it times out, you have time to let a couple cycles go by and see where in the band it might be best to call (look for hole). I did this multiple times (let it expire), watched the pileup,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Jim, Check out item 12 in the Hound instructions: “12. After you receive a signal report from Fox, WSJT-X will automatically send your next transmission as message Tx 3 (“R+rpt”) at a randomly chosen frequency between 300 and 900 Hz. Note that WSJT-X will send this message even if Enable

Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread James Shaver
Thanks, Steve and Joe both - my sleep-deprived brain completely failed to register that part. Jim S. -Original Message- From: Steven Franke [mailto:s.j.fra...@icloud.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:13 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer Hi Jim,

[wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Is this a problem with sourceforge?  If so, has anybody reported the problem? Updating '.': svn: E175013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx' svn: E175013: Access to '/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx' forbidden de Mike W9MDB

Re: [wsjt-devel] Sourceforge status?

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 16:18, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Is this a problem with sourceforge?  If so, has anybody reported the problem? Updating '.': svn: E175013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'http://svn.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjt/branches/wsjtx' svn: E175013: Access to

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.9.0 rc2 Waterfall

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/03/2018 16:21, Ron Schwartz wrote: The 1.9.0 rc2 waterfall now appears ‘smeared’ and weak traces are not as visible as earlier versions (see attached).  Is this an intentional change? Hi Ron, it has been changed, the intent was to improve the visibility of weak signals. Please try

[wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread Bill Turner via wsjt-devel
Great job with the test last night.  I did find the 2 minute timer to be a real pain, however. I understand you do not want a robot operation, but a 5 or 10 minute timer would be less frustrating. When the software shuts off the Enable TX, how do we know that we are still on the correct

Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread James Shaver
Yep, twice the timer had expired on me right as the “Fox” called me and I had to scramble. Jim S. N2ADV From: Bill Turner via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:03 AM To: WSJT Software Development Cc: Bill Turner Subject: [wsjt-devel]

Re: [wsjt-devel] Timer

2018-03-07 Thread James Shaver
I missed that in the documentation - thanks for that, Joe! My cat was very put out when I made a mad dash for the mouse ;) I'll apologize to her later. Jim S. N2ADV -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:09 AM To: WSJT