Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2011-01-05 Thread Mark Dootson
Hi, A footnote to the conversation. Cava Packager now has a 'non-commercial' option that requires no user registration. There is also special provision for use by Open Source projects. (this does still require one time user registration but has liberal license terms to allow the freedom of

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-23 Thread Mark Dootson
Ok. I feel the pain. I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick slightly. The current differences between the 'free beer' subscription plus the continued need for user login are purely down to attempting to accommodate free use in the existing code. The user management stuff and on

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-22 Thread Johan Vromans
Mark Dootson writes: > A non-commercial usage option is now available for individuals > distributing non-commercial apps (required download version 2.0.16). > Free as in beer. Mark, you're breaking my heart. Your work for the wxPerl community is invaluable and I very much appreciate it. CavaP

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-22 Thread Mark Dootson
rce applications. I wonder if keeping Cava open source (and I did not even know it ever was open source) would really interfere with the idea of selling it as subscription based service. That's up to Mark to decide. Distributing wxPerl applications to nonexpert users is still a pain. This may be

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-21 Thread Mark Dootson
Hi, The list is at http://groups.google.com/group/cava-packager/topics?hl=en On 21/12/2010 20:13, perltk wrote: What is the Cava list address ? On 12/20/2010 9:41 PM, Mark Dootson wrote: Hi, As Cava Packager has been mentioned on the list a few times I'm dropping a note to advise that Cava P

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-21 Thread perltk
What is the Cava list address ? On 12/20/2010 9:41 PM, Mark Dootson wrote: Hi, As Cava Packager has been mentioned on the list a few times I'm dropping a note to advise that Cava Packager now supports MacOSX and Linux in addition to Windows as promised some time ago. A shameless plug perhap

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-21 Thread Gabor Szabo
e to encourage people to make money using Perl even if that means closed source applications. I wonder if keeping Cava open source (and I did not even know it ever was open source) would really interfere with the idea of selling it as subscription based service. That's up to Mark to decide.

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-21 Thread Johan Vromans
tion fee to allow other people to use my free applications. Moreover, this means that Cava is now a closed source application and I try to avoid closed source apps as much as possible. Distributing wxPerl applications to nonexpert users is still a pain. This may be one of the reasons there are

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-20 Thread Huub Peters
On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Huub Peters wrote: > On Dec 21, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Mark Dootson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As Cava Packager has been mentioned on the list a few times I'm dropping a >> note to advise that Cava Packager now supports MacOSX and Linux in addition >> to Windows as promised

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-20 Thread Huub Peters
On Dec 21, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Mark Dootson wrote: > Hi, > > As Cava Packager has been mentioned on the list a few times I'm dropping a > note to advise that Cava Packager now supports MacOSX and Linux in addition > to Windows as promised some time ago. > > A shameless plug perhaps, but it is a

Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-12-20 Thread Mark Dootson
Hi, As Cava Packager has been mentioned on the list a few times I'm dropping a note to advise that Cava Packager now supports MacOSX and Linux in addition to Windows as promised some time ago. A shameless plug perhaps, but it is a cross platform application written using wxPerl that can help

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications - Perlapp

2010-08-03 Thread perltk
the target machine. -- Octavian - Original Message - From: "perltk" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications - Perlapp The point of perlapp is that you don't even need perl installed on machines where app runs. So

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications - Perlapp

2010-08-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita
ust 03, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications - Perlapp The point of perlapp is that you don't even need perl installed on machines where app runs. So you can have a different verison(s) of perl installed and the standalone will completely ignore them. Like PAR, it b

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-03 Thread perltk
ot;'Johan Vromans'" ; "'Daniel Carrera'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:12 AM Subject: RE: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications On Mon, 02 Aug 2010, ademmler wrote: hi, I am using all of those tools and the major difference is the concept b

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications - Perlapp

2010-08-03 Thread perltk
f course, Strawberry has its own issues so I am trying to find the best solution. -- Octavian - Original Message - From: "Jan Dubois" To: "'Octavian Rasnita'" ; "'ademmler'" ; "'Johan Vromans'" ; "'Daniel C

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita
ginal Message - From: "Jan Dubois" To: "'Octavian Rasnita'" ; "'ademmler'" ; "'Johan Vromans'" ; "'Daniel Carrera'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: RE: AW: Distributing wxPerl

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread ademmler
Dear Jan, I understand your whish, but I have stopped using ActiveState some month at all and I have no simple sample. The simple ones are working and I cant ship you my svn contents for testing. The biggest Problem: "cant find module . . . ." even if everything should be in there. I sw

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread ademmler
Hi Octavian and the others, Actually CavaPacker is only for Windows available. It is on the plan to make Linux and MacOX X Versions. There is a special Note about on the website: NOTE: Cava Packager Professional has not yet been released. You can download Version 1.3 of Cava Packager fro

RE: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Jan Dubois
y > that PDK requires ActivePerl. > > Isn't this true? > > -- > Octavian > > - Original Message - > From: "Jan Dubois" > To: "'ademmler'" ; "'Johan Vromans'" > ; "'Daniel Carrera'" > C

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Octavian Rasnita
mler'" ; "'Johan Vromans'" ; "'Daniel Carrera'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:12 AM Subject: RE: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications On Mon, 02 Aug 2010, ademmler wrote: hi, I am using all of those tools and the major difference is th

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Octavian Rasnita
niel Carrera" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:39 PM Subject: Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications hi, I am using all of those tools and the major difference is the concept behind: A) perl2exe never made it succsesfully for me. B) ActiveStae perlapp I could not run wtihout Act

RE: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010, ademmler wrote: > > hi, > > I am using all of those tools and the major difference is the concept > behind: > > B) ActiveStae perlapp I could not run wtihout ActiveStae Per . . . > (non strawberry) Could you provide me with a sample that fails? PerlApp generally works fine

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread ademmler
hi Daniel, and be aware there is traps and problems always and every where. I had project coding a week and packaging took also a week or longer. Especially addonig libs like libusb, image magick and so on needs extra tweeks. Sometimes it is easier on Mac to juts put all into the local dir

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hi Alexander, Excellent information. Thanks! The comment about ActiveState PerlApp is very important. I don't want to make a program that only work with Active Perl. >From what you say, it seems like the best option might be: (1) Standard .deb or .rpm on Linux, (2) PAR on Mac, and (3) Cava on Wi

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread ademmler
hi, I am using all of those tools and the major difference is the concept behind: A) perl2exe never made it succsesfully for me. B) ActiveStae perlapp I could not run wtihout ActiveStae Per . . . (non strawberry) C) PAR is generating some ZIP Archive containing everything. While launc

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread ademmler
Hi, I have the following experiences. different systems differnet ways how to get the best result: - Windows: CavaPackager (even ActiveState perlapp had problems with wxPerl code) - Linux: PAR - Mac OS X: Actually some selfmade "collect modules" + AppWarpper made by Platypus If Cava be

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Johan Vromans
Daniel Carrera writes: > Does Cava work better than PAR? How would you compare them? What's the > ETA for Cava to be cross-platform? > > I don't have any urgency. I am not a commercial developer with a deadline. Then I suggest you repeat this question in a couple of weeks when (I assume) the Cav

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: > Cava will be multi-platform soon. > > ActiveState PDK ('perlapp') already works nice on all platforms but is a > commercial product. If you have seral apps to ship is may be worth > considering. > > Perl 'PAR' works nice in many cases as well.

Re: AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Johan Vromans
Daniel writes: > I always use the cava packager, but my applications are for Windows > only and it works very well. Unfortunately there is no tool like Cava > for Linux or Mac OS (or I don't know it). Cava will be multi-platform soon. ActiveState PDK ('perlapp') already works nice on all platfo

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
y well. Unfortunately there is no tool like Cava for Linux or > Mac OS (or I don't know it). > > Regards > Daniel > > > > Von: Daniel Carrera > An: Alessandro > CC: wxperl-users@perl.org > Gesendet: Montag, den 2. August 2010, 16:

AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel
l.org Gesendet: Montag, den 2. August 2010, 16:46:44 Uhr Betreff: Re: Distributing wxPerl applications On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Alessandro wrote: > Hello, > isn't http://www.cava.co.uk/ what you're looking for? Possibly. Have you tried it? Does it work well? I am not famili

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Alessandro wrote: > Hello, > isn't http://www.cava.co.uk/ what you're looking for? Possibly. Have you tried it? Does it work well? I am not familiar any of these tools. I'm only beginning to learn about PerlApp, PAR and Cava. I'm sure that there are people here wh

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM, perltk wrote: > Yes, from my personal use/experimenting.  Theres Perlapp or PAR or make an > '.app" on OSX. The trick is including & using the wx binary libs you pacakge > up.  But it isn't going to be write once , run everywhere. Thanks. It looks like PerlApp is p

AW: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel
; wxperl-users@perl.org Gesendet: Montag, den 2. August 2010, 15:49:58 Uhr Betreff: Re: Distributing wxPerl applications Hello, isn't http://www.cava.co.uk/ what you're looking for? Alessandro 2010/8/1 Daniel Carrera > Hello, > > Is it difficult to package and dis

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread Alessandro
Hello, isn't http://www.cava.co.uk/ what you're looking for? Alessandro 2010/8/1 Daniel Carrera > Hello, > > Is it difficult to package and distribute a wxPerl application? I am > thinking, for example, how Windows and Mac OS don't have a package > manager with wxPerl, wxWidgets and so on, so

Re: Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-02 Thread perltk
Yes, from my personal use/experimenting. Theres Perlapp or PAR or make an '.app" on OSX. The trick is including & using the wx binary libs you pacakge up. But it isn't going to be write once , run everywhere. On 8/1/2010 3:52 PM, Daniel Carrera wrote: Hello, Is it difficult to package and d

Distributing wxPerl applications

2010-08-01 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello, Is it difficult to package and distribute a wxPerl application? I am thinking, for example, how Windows and Mac OS don't have a package manager with wxPerl, wxWidgets and so on, so you have to package all the dependencies with you. And for Linux the situation isn't much better. Yes Linux di