Re: [Xastir] CVS tracked files
Curt, WE7U wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Tom Russo wrote: You can eliminate this kind of thing by doing an out-of-source build instead of an in-source build --- that way your CVS checkout is always pristine and generated files are always placed elsewhere. You can also add the filenames that you don't want CVS to look at to the .cvsignore file in each directory, one filename per line. If there's not a .cvsignore file where you need one you can create it with an editor. xastir keeps .cvsignore files inside CVS. Are they out of date? For what it's worth, the only '?' I get is 'build'. Jon LA4RT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] CVS tracked files
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Jon K Hellan wrote: xastir keeps .cvsignore files inside CVS. Yea, I put most (maybe all?) of them in there originally. Are they out of date? For what it's worth, the only '?' I get is 'build'. Could be. I get maybe a hundred of them, which is probably why I didn't notice a few new ones. I have a lot of bits and pieces extra in my build directory here after 11 years of messing around with it. I'll try a fresh checkout in another directory and see if I can clean up the .cvsignore files a bit. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] CVS tracked files
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Jon K Hellan wrote: xastir keeps .cvsignore files inside CVS. Are they out of date? For what it's worth, the only '?' I get is 'build'. You probably haven't run ./bootstrap.sh in a while then. BTW: I just updated a couple of the .cvsignore files and a build in a fresh directory and then a cvs -f -n -q update yields no question marks now. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Digipeating with Xasir - How?
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, David Maydew wrote: I'm trying to set Xastir 1.9.9 up as a Digipeater, but I'm having no luck. I'm using a Siskin Tiny-2 TNC, and have got Xastir to see it in Serial Kiss mode, but it just sits there and receives and transmits nothing. What am I doing wrong? The TNC itself needs to be in KISS mode, then either: *) Xastir needs to be set up to use a Serial KISS TNC interface to talk to it, or *) AX.25 networking needs to be set up so that the OS knows how to use the port as a networking port, then Xastir needs to have an AX25 TNC port set up to talk to it. Once you have Xastir transmitting/receiving the KISS packets to/from the TNC, you can enable the Digipeat? box on the interface to get Xastir to digipeat packets that have an unused WIDE1-1 field in the next available digipeater field. If you pick option #2 above then you can set up Digi_NED against the same port, leave digipeating in Xastir OFF, and have much better digipeating capabilities than Xastir will ever have. We only implemented fill-in digi capability in Xastir by design. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Fwd: [Ubuntu-hams-devel] [Bug 608080] [NEW] ax25-tools need old-style pty
FYI Developer people! -- Forwarded message -- From: ziotibia81 608...@bugs.launchpad.net Date: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:34 AM Subject: [Ubuntu-hams-devel] [Bug 608080] [NEW] ax25-tools need old-style pty To: ubuntu-hams-de...@lists.launchpad.net Public bug reported: Binary package hint: ax25-tools Current version of ax25-tools (0.0.8-13.1ubuntu1) need old-style pty to work in particullary configuration. On Ubuntu Lucid old-style pty are default disabled so is necessary to add something like pty.legacy_count=15 on grub kernel parameters. Installation script has to add utomatically this parameter or, best thing, ax25-tools need to be updated to latest versione so it could use Unix98 pty. Last release of ax25-tools could be found here: http://www.linux-ax25.org/wiki/Main_Page or here: http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ ** Affects: ax25-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- ax25-tools need old-style pty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/608080 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu ham developers, which is subscribed to ax25-tools in ubuntu. Status in “ax25-tools” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Binary package hint: ax25-tools Current version of ax25-tools (0.0.8-13.1ubuntu1) need old-style pty to work in particullary configuration. On Ubuntu Lucid old-style pty are default disabled so is necessary to add something like pty.legacy_count=15 on grub kernel parameters. Installation script has to add utomatically this parameter or, best thing, ax25-tools need to be updated to latest versione so it could use Unix98 pty. Last release of ax25-tools could be found here: http://www.linux-ax25.org/wiki/Main_Page or here: http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hams-devel Post to : ubuntu-hams-de...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hams-devel More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- David A Aitcheson david.aitche...@gmail.com david.aitcheson on google and skype ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Fwd: [Ubuntu-hams-devel] [Bug 608083] [NEW] ax25-apps need old-style pty
FYI Developer people! -- Forwarded message -- From: ziotibia81 608...@bugs.launchpad.net Date: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:39 AM Subject: [Ubuntu-hams-devel] [Bug 608083] [NEW] ax25-apps need old-style pty To: ubuntu-hams-de...@lists.launchpad.net Public bug reported: Binary package hint: ax25-apps ax25-apps (0.0.6-16.1 on Ubuntu Lucyd) need old style pty to work in some configuration. See Bug #608080 for detailed description ** Affects: ax25-apps (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- ax25-apps need old-style pty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/608083 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu ham developers, which is subscribed to ax25-apps in ubuntu. Status in “ax25-apps” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Binary package hint: ax25-apps ax25-apps (0.0.6-16.1 on Ubuntu Lucyd) need old style pty to work in some configuration. See Bug #608080 for detailed description ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hams-devel Post to : ubuntu-hams-de...@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hams-devel More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- David A Aitcheson david.aitche...@gmail.com david.aitcheson on google and skype ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] ax.25
I often see instructions that mention two different options to perform various tasks. One involves ax.25. Is there a preferred method? Is there an advantage to using ax.25? Are there limitations wrt the tnc or modem one uses? Can someone point me to a discussion on the differences? Thanks, Jim. Not running anything at this time, but waiting to get a couple of antennas up. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] ax.25
ax.25 pretty much *is* packet radio. What you see I suspect is the options for what/how is performing as your interface. You can use a hardware TNC, you can use a hardware TNC in KISS mode, you can use soundcard modems, you can use userspace soundcard software, kernel based ax.25, AGWPE soundcard in Windows etc. You basically generate the tones, listen for the tones and key the transmit when needed. The variations above all do it, just in different ways. So you have options to configure in Xastir depending on what it's connected to. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jim j...@k4gvo.com wrote: I often see instructions that mention two different options to perform various tasks. One involves ax.25. Is there a preferred method? Is there an advantage to using ax.25? Are there limitations wrt the tnc or modem one uses? Can someone point me to a discussion on the differences? Thanks, Jim. Not running anything at this time, but waiting to get a couple of antennas up. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- 73 de Chris KC2RGW --- ˙dn ǝpıs ʇɥƃıɹ ɹoʇıuoɯ ɹnoʎ uɹnʇ ǝsɐǝןd 'sıɥʇ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ ɟı ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] ax.25
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Jim j...@k4gvo.com wrote: I often see instructions that mention two different options to perform various tasks. One involves ax.25. If it's in a linux/xastir context, this frequently refers to the ax.25 kernel support available in linux. Since the ax.25 protocol _is_ networking, some linux hams hacked out a network interface driver and added it to the kernel, where all network interfaces belong. The result is that you can hit the network stack on a single interface (i.e. radio/TNC) from multiple applications and the kernel will handle things so that the applications don't step on each other. The other way to interface is the same way windows and macs do - the kernel provides a serial interface (RS232) to the TNC, and the application implements the entire ax.25 stack. This makes it difficult to impossible to share a TNC among multiple applications. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] ax.25
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Jason KG4WSV wrote: If it's in a linux/xastir context, this frequently refers to the ax.25 kernel support available in linux. Since the ax.25 protocol _is_ networking, some linux hams hacked out a network interface driver and added it to the kernel, where all network interfaces belong. The result is that you can hit the network stack on a single interface (i.e. radio/TNC) from multiple applications and the kernel will handle things so that the applications don't step on each other. Roger. You also have to watch out for applications that send out broadcasts or queries to ALL network interfaces, because as soon as you implement an AX.25 kernel networking interface they'll start talking out that interface too. Samba will do this, but there are others. You can fix this with firewall settings or usually within the individual app's configs. The other way to interface is the same way windows and macs do - the kernel provides a serial interface (RS232) to the TNC, and the application implements the entire ax.25 stack. This makes it difficult to impossible to share a TNC among multiple applications. We have a Soundcard HOWTO and an AX.25 HOWTO on the Xastir Wiki pages, in case you decide to try one of those. It is nice to be able to share a frequency among several apps. I'm running a TNC-X (KISS-only TNC) with AX.25 kernel networking at home for Xastir and igating. I could throw Digi_NED on there too if I wanted full-fledged digipeating. At the same time I could do a telnet, ftp, or ssh session to others on RF. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] ax.25
If you use linux, disable avahid when you bring up your packet interface if it's not a dedicated box. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Jason KG4WSV wrote: If it's in a linux/xastir context, this frequently refers to the ax.25 kernel support available in linux. Since the ax.25 protocol _is_ networking, some linux hams hacked out a network interface driver and added it to the kernel, where all network interfaces belong. The result is that you can hit the network stack on a single interface (i.e. radio/TNC) from multiple applications and the kernel will handle things so that the applications don't step on each other. Roger. You also have to watch out for applications that send out broadcasts or queries to ALL network interfaces, because as soon as you implement an AX.25 kernel networking interface they'll start talking out that interface too. Samba will do this, but there are others. You can fix this with firewall settings or usually within the individual app's configs. The other way to interface is the same way windows and macs do - the kernel provides a serial interface (RS232) to the TNC, and the application implements the entire ax.25 stack. This makes it difficult to impossible to share a TNC among multiple applications. We have a Soundcard HOWTO and an AX.25 HOWTO on the Xastir Wiki pages, in case you decide to try one of those. It is nice to be able to share a frequency among several apps. I'm running a TNC-X (KISS-only TNC) with AX.25 kernel networking at home for Xastir and igating. I could throw Digi_NED on there too if I wanted full-fledged digipeating. At the same time I could do a telnet, ftp, or ssh session to others on RF. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at! http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- 73 de Chris KC2RGW --- ˙dn ǝpıs ʇɥƃıɹ ɹoʇıuoɯ ɹnoʎ uɹnʇ ǝsɐǝןd 'sıɥʇ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ ɟı ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Installing latest on hardy?
Jim, xastir199-2010-Jul-16.tgz compiles fine for me on an up-to-date Ubuntu 8.04 box. (I do not configure for kernel AX25 or use festival and do use everything else.) Can you post the error? Dick, KC9JLU Jim wrote: Thanks for the info on ax25. I was able to (I think) get it connected to my modem. Have no idea if it's working yet, but at least it put the tnc into kiss mode. Have no idea how to test it yet, but that's not why I'm writing this. I downloaded the latest source and did the bootstrap.sh and configure steps. In the INSTALL file, there are only two manditory dependencies. I have satisfied both of them and the ./configure command kicked out some warnings but completed. However the make failed almost immediately. Should this work on Ubuntu 8.04? Thanks, Jim. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Installing latest on hardy?
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Jim wrote: Thanks for the info on ax25. I was able to (I think) get it connected to my modem. Have no idea if it's working yet, but at least it put the tnc into kiss mode. Are you sure about that last? Typically you have to put the TNC into KISS mode on your own via a terminal program. I downloaded the latest source and did the bootstrap.sh and configure steps. In the INSTALL file, there are only two manditory dependencies. I have satisfied both of them and the ./configure command kicked out some warnings but completed. However the make failed almost immediately. Should this work on Ubuntu 8.04? Without any indication of the error message we're in the dark as to what to tell you. Have you seen the HOWTO documents specific to various Ubuntu flavors on the www.xastir.org web pages? I'd suggest following those as many have come before you and succeeded with that method. -- Curt, WE7U. http://www.eskimo.com/~archer APRS: Where it's at!http://www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Installing latest on hardy?
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Jim j...@k4gvo.com wrote: Thanks for the info on ax25. I was able to (I think) get it connected to my modem. Have no idea if it's working yet, but at least it put the tnc into kiss mode. Have no idea how to test it yet, but that's not why I'm writing this. I downloaded the latest source and did the bootstrap.sh and configure steps. In the INSTALL file, there are only two manditory dependencies. I have satisfied both of them and the ./configure command kicked out some warnings but completed. However the make failed almost immediately. Should this work on Ubuntu 8.04? Thanks, Jim. I would follow the Installation Notes for Ubuntu 8.04 - available at this link: http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_8.10 Lee - K5DAT Murphy, TX ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
