Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread ru...@bogodyn.org
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 07:19:51AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:
Tom,
Thanks for explaining that.  I can see the mouse behavior change and the
change to the bottom status bar, but any menu that was longer than the
screen is still off the bottom where I can't access the buttons.  Should
this change have re-sized the windows?

Can't say -- I think you might have to change font sizes or something.  I've
already exhausted what I know about this option.  Others who have actually used
it will have to answer this.

From: ru...@bogodyn.org ru...@bogodyn.org
To: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com
Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org;
Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 08:10:19PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron
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I forgot to mention the other change I noticed is the mouse pointer
behavior.  Now, when I click on the map or try to hold down to draw a
zoom
box, I get the pop up menu.  Clicking away from the menu closes it
and
returns to the map.  Is this normal behavior when the touch LCD
option is
enabled?  I'm assuming this is a way to speed up operation when using
a
touch only interface.
 
Ah.  Sorry, Jason, when I wrote that email I first had several paragraphs
describing how to hand-edit the code, and explaining what everything did,
but then I realized that it was easier to do the CPPFLAGS thing and
deleted all that explanation.
 
LCD640x480TOUCH enables three things:
  - FIXED_DIALOG_STARTUP
  - SWAP_MOUSE_BUTTONS
  - USE_TWO_STATUS_LINES
 
These are the three things that Curt found made his use of his 640x480
touch screen more usable.
 
  -  FIXED_DIALOG_STARTUP
This makes  all the dialog boxes pop up in a fixed location instead of
cycling through locations for each new dialog.  That prevents them
from
being part-way off-screen when they pop up.
  - SWAP_MOUSE_BUTTONS
This makes the left mouse button (a tap on the screen) do what the
right mouse button usually does on 3-button mouse desktops/laptops ---
pop
up a menu.  Curt can comment, but I believe that what he found in
using
his touch-screen system was that more often he wanted to tap the
screen to
bring up a menu rather than to zoom in.
  - USE_TWO_STATUS_LINES
 
This splits up the normally long single status line on large-screen
monitors into two lines, presumably so they are more readable on small
screens.
 
Defining LCD640x480TOUCH is the same as defining all three of the above
upper-case symbols, i.e., enabling all three features.
 
If you would rather do only some subset, you can define only the symbol
you think is useful:
 
  ../configure CPPFLAGS=-DFIXED_DIALOG_STARTUP -DSWAP_MOUSE_BUTTONS
-DUSE_TWO_STATUS_LINES
 
is identical to
 
  ../configure CPPFLAGS=-DLCD640x480TOUCH
 
You also need to change font sizes to make your smaller screen less
cluttered.
 
Someone who actually uses these small-screen options would be better
suited
to give you guidance than I am.  I was just trying to get you jump-started
with the compilation options that Curt had suggested.
 
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:


On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 07:19:51AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:

   Tom,
   Thanks for explaining that.  I can see the mouse behavior change and the
   change to the bottom status bar, but any menu that was longer than the
   screen is still off the bottom where I can't access the buttons.  Should
   this change have re-sized the windows?


Can't say -- I think you might have to change font sizes or something.  I've
already exhausted what I know about this option.  Others who have actually used
it will have to answer this.


No, it won't resize.  Your only option might be to play with fonts.  I remember 
(from years back) that there were still a few dialogs that were too large for 
the screen, but I was using FVWM as my window manager and was able to move to 
another virtual screen to work the rest of the dialog.

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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason Rausch
Curt,

OK, thanks for clearing that up.  I did try to change fonts, but that didn't 
really help.  I tried changing the size of the text smaller, but no matter what 
I did, the text did not change size.  I noticed it said fixed, so I guess it 
wasn't going to change no matter what I put in the box.

Unfortunately, the most important windows Station, Timing, ect are the ones 
that I can't access the buttons on.  Is FVWM something that I can install in 
Debian Wheezy or is it something that is built into particular X-Windows 
interfaces?

Thanks for all of the help so far!
 
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To: ru...@bogodyn.org ru...@bogodyn.org 
Cc: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com; Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
xastir@lists.xastir.org; Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
 

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 07:19:51AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:
    Tom,
    Thanks for explaining that.  I can see the mouse behavior change and the
    change to the bottom status bar, but any menu that was longer than the
    screen is still off the bottom where I can't access the buttons.  Should
    this change have re-sized the windows?

 Can't say -- I think you might have to change font sizes or something.  I've
 already exhausted what I know about this option.  Others who have actually 
 used
 it will have to answer this.

No, it won't resize.  Your only option might be to play with fonts.  I remember 
(from years back) that there were still a few dialogs that were too large for 
the screen, but I was using FVWM as my window manager and was able to move to 
another virtual screen to work the rest of the dialog.


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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason KG4WSV
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com wrote:
 I noticed it said fixed, so I guess it wasn't going to change no matter 
 what I put in the box.

That means it's a fixed width font, not proportional.  (IIRC, that's
the name of a particular fixed-width font).

I'm fighting with networking on my newly acquired BBB at the moment,
trying to catch up with you since I plan to run xastir on this one,
too.

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread ru...@bogodyn.org
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:46:55AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:
Unfortunately, the most important windows Station, Timing, ect are the
ones that I can't access the buttons on.  Is FVWM something that I can
install in Debian Wheezy or is it something that is built into particular
X-Windows interfaces?

FVWM is a window manager that can certainly be installed in Wheezy, but
getting it to run and play nice with the other parts of your desktop 
environment may be a challenge (I run fvwm on my BSD box, and don't run any
part of GNOME there, but on my Ubuntu laptop have not bothered to change from
the default window manager (metacity)).

https://wiki.debian.org/WindowManager

See especially the line at the end that says Window Managers must
not be confused with Desktop Environments for additional confusion.

See http://www.fvwm.org/documentation/faq/ (question 2.8) for some hints
about getting fvwm to work as GNOME's window manager (assuming you're 
using GNOME).  If you're using a different desktop environment, you might
have to resort to Google.  Unless you luck out and find someone here who
has done it on Wheezy.

Full-blown desktop environments may be overkill for small-screen systems
like you're using (which is why Curt used it on his).   But FVWM is pretty
old-school (as are Curt and I), so it might not be the perfect fit for you.
The main thing that is useful about it for this applicaiton is that you can 
define a virtual desktop that is larger than your physical screen, and when 
you move the mouse off the edge of the screen it moves to a different part of 
the virtual desktop.  That can help when a window pops up that is larger than
the physical screen --- it'll just occupy a different part of the virtual
desktop.

 
From: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com
To: ru...@bogodyn.org ru...@bogodyn.org
Cc: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com; Xastir - APRS client software
discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org; Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, [1]ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 07:19:51AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron
collision of the [2]ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:
Tom,
Thanks for explaining that.  I can see the mouse behavior change and
the
change to the bottom status bar, but any menu that was longer than
the
screen is still off the bottom where I can't access the buttons.
Should
this change have re-sized the windows?

 Can't say -- I think you might have to change font sizes or something.
I've
 already exhausted what I know about this option.  Others who have
actually used
 it will have to answer this.
 
No, it won't resize.  Your only option might be to play with fonts.  I
remember (from years back) that there were still a few dialogs that were
too large for the screen, but I was using FVWM as my window manager and
was able to move to another virtual screen to work the rest of the dialog.
 
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[4]http://wetnet.net/~we7u/aprs_capabilities.html
 
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason KG4WSV
Here's an example font specification that's similar to the one xastir uses:

-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-*-*

in this case the 120 is the size in tenths of a point - i.e. 12pt.
It's a courier type font.

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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason Rausch
Jason,

Thanks, that explains it.

Networking was easy on mine.  I just plugged into my router and booted it up.  
DHCP took over.  I did notice that if you are already booted up and THEN plug 
in, it will not find the network.  A reboot is required.  I gave a cheap wifi 
USB dongle a try and it didn't work.  I'm sure there is some kind of 
driver/configuration that I am missing.
 
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 From: Jason KG4WSV kg4...@gmail.com
To: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com; Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
xastir@lists.xastir.org 
Cc: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com; ru...@bogodyn.org ru...@bogodyn.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
 

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com wrote:
 I noticed it said fixed, so I guess it wasn't going to change no matter 
 what I put in the box.

That means it's a fixed width font, not proportional.  (IIRC, that's
the name of a particular fixed-width font).

I'm fighting with networking on my newly acquired BBB at the moment,
trying to catch up with you since I plan to run xastir on this one,
too.


-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason KG4WSV
I fired up xfontsel on the BBB.  on my old CentOS xastir config, my
fonts (which I think are the xastir defaults)  are

MAPS_LABEL_FONT_TINY:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--8-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_SMALL:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_MEDIUM:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_LARGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_HUGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_BORDER:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1


but the BBB doesn't have any adobe fonts.  I suspect you are getting
some random font since the defaults aren't available.

Try running xfontsel and find a sane font.  If xastir's configuration
won't let you get there due to the font problem, run xfontsel from a
terminal window, poke around and find a font that looks good (or at
least sane), and copy/paste the font spec string into the appropriate
place in ~/xastir/config/xastir.cnf

-*-clean-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

may be a decent place to start.

or maybe someone who actually knows debian can suggest a command to
load the adobe fonts?

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Tom Russo wrote:


It is possible that Wheezy did the same thing Ubuntu did, unbundling
what used to be default fonts in X from the packages that get installed
with X.  When I first installed Xastir on a laptop that came with Ubuntu
12.04 I discovered this and hated it.  But there's a way to get those
fonts.

Try installing xfonts-100dpi

This was one of those things that cheesed me off when I first installed
Ubuntu 12.04 on my cracktop.  Perhaps Ubuntu learned it from Debian.


I seem to remember that OpenSuSE did something like that too some years ago, so 
maybe it was a more general thing that happened in the apps that these 
distributions pulled from.

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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason Rausch
Jason,

Thanks.  I ran xfontsel and looked at -*-clean-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*  
That looks pretty good.  I couldn't figure out how to copy the string, so I 
figured I would just hand type it into xastir.cnf.  Once I got into xastir.cnf, 
I could only find variables for MAPS_LABEL... (Six of these) and ATV_ID_FONT.  
I'm not sure where I need to put the font string.

Also, I attached a couple of pictures of Xastir running on my BBB with the 7 
LCD.  I added in a Belkin Mini USB hub that came in the mail yesterday.  I took 
the case off and stripped it down.  I'm trying to make it as small as possible 
so I can fit it in a case that I'm going to mill for the whole package.  I also 
have a custom interface board on the way that I designed to have a +5VDC 
switching supply, two USB ports, one ethernet port and a DB9 female that will 
interface my radio to the internal TNC-X I am building to put inside of the 
case as well.
 
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 From: Jason KG4WSV kg4...@gmail.com
To: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com 
Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
 

I fired up xfontsel on the BBB.  on my old CentOS xastir config, my
fonts (which I think are the xastir defaults)  are

MAPS_LABEL_FONT_TINY:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--8-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_SMALL:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_MEDIUM:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_LARGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_HUGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_BORDER:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1


but the BBB doesn't have any adobe fonts.  I suspect you are getting
some random font since the defaults aren't available.

Try running xfontsel and find a sane font.  If xastir's configuration
won't let you get there due to the font problem, run xfontsel from a
terminal window, poke around and find a font that looks good (or at
least sane), and copy/paste the font spec string into the appropriate
place in ~/xastir/config/xastir.cnf

-*-clean-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

may be a decent place to start.

or maybe someone who actually knows debian can suggest a command to
load the adobe fonts?


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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason Rausch
Tom,

Installing xfonts-100dpi helped.  I had to go down to a size of 10 to see the 
buttons on the station config screen.  Other screens that are longer, that is 
still too big.  I'm just going to have to find some kind of happy medium, but 
changing config on certain things is going to be tough, if at all.
 
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 From: Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org 
Cc: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
 

On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 01:36:33PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the kg4...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 I fired up xfontsel on the BBB.  on my old CentOS xastir config, my
 fonts (which I think are the xastir defaults)  are
 
 MAPS_LABEL_FONT_TINY:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--8-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 MAPS_LABEL_FONT_SMALL:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 MAPS_LABEL_FONT_MEDIUM:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 MAPS_LABEL_FONT_LARGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 MAPS_LABEL_FONT_HUGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 MAPS_LABEL_FONT_BORDER:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 
 
 but the BBB doesn't have any adobe fonts.  I suspect you are getting
 some random font since the defaults aren't available.

It is possible that Wheezy did the same thing Ubuntu did, unbundling
what used to be default fonts in X from the packages that get installed
with X.  When I first installed Xastir on a laptop that came with Ubuntu
12.04 I discovered this and hated it.  But there's a way to get those

fonts.

Try installing xfonts-100dpi 

This was one of those things that cheesed me off when I first installed
Ubuntu 12.04 on my cracktop.  Perhaps Ubuntu learned it from Debian.

http://www.bogodyn.org/blog/?p=37#more-37

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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread David

Hi  .this is one area of Xastir that bugs mefont selection
with at least 2 other APRS programs they have in their font section menus
for choice of font and size...they will even show any fonts that you 
have d/l
for use in other programs..it takes only a few seconds to change fonts 
and size.BTW with Adobe fonts you have to pay for Helvetica fonts


my thoughts only

73 David VK4BDJ






On 04/07/14 07:29, Jason Rausctsd 
at -*-clean-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*  That looks pretty good.  I 
couldn't figure out how to copy the string, so I figured I would just 
hand type it into xastir.cnf.  Once I got into xastir.cnf, I could only 
find variables for MAPS_LABEL... (Six of these) and ATV_ID_FONT.  I'm 
not sure where I need to put the font string. Also, I attached a couple 
of pictures of Xastir running on my BBB with the 7 LCD.  I added in a 
Belkin Mini USB hub that came in the mail yesterday.  I took the case 
off and stripped it down.  I'm trying to make it as small as possible so 
I can fit it in a case that I'm going to mill for the whole package.  I 
also have a custom interface board on the way that I designed to have a 
+5VDC switching supply, two USB ports, one ethernet port and a DB9 
female that will interface my radio to the internal TNC-X I am building 
to put inside of the case as well. Jason Rausch - Amateur Radio 
Callsign: KE4NYV RPC Electronics, LLC www.rpc-electronics.com 
 From: Jason KG4WSV kg4...@gmail.com 
To: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com Cc: Xastir - APRS client software 
discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 2:36 
PM Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts I fired up xfontsel 
on the BBB.  on my old CentOS xastir config, my fonts (which I think are 
the xastir defaults)  are 
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_TINY:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--8-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_SMALL:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_MEDIUM:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_LARGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_HUGE:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
MAPS_LABEL_FONT_BORDER:-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 
but the BBB doesn't have any adobe fonts.  I suspect you are getting 
some random font since the defaults aren't available. Try running 
xfontsel and find a sane font.  If xastir's configuration won't let you 
get there due to the font problem, run xfontsel from a terminal window, 
poke around and find a font that looks good (or at least sane), and 
copy/paste the font spec string into the appropriate place in 
~/xastir/config/xastir.cnf -*-clean-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* may be 
a decent place to start. or maybe someone who actually knows debian can 
suggest a command to load the adobe fonts? -Jason kg4wsv



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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-03 Thread Jason KG4WSV

 On Jul 3, 2014, at 4:54 PM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 .BTW with Adobe fonts you have to pay for Helvetica fonts

The fonts I mentioned (Adobe Helvetica) have been a part of X11 for years, no $ 
required. 

-j

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[Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-02 Thread Jason Rausch
After playing with Xastir on my BeagleBone Black for the last week, I'm hooked. 
However, I'm having some difficulty with navigation on the 7 touch LCD.  The 
main window displays perfectly, but most of the config windows are fixed size 
and the buttons are off of the bottom of the screen.  In a couple of cases, I 
was able to dock my start bar to the left or right and just barely see enough 
of the buttons to press them.  Some other windows (like timing) are a complete 
no go.  So, is there a way I can change window sizes or at least unlock them so 
I can resize?  I tried to figure out changing the screen resolution in Wheezy, 
but being new to Linux (Again!  It seems like I start all over every time.) I 
couldn't figure it out.  (We're not in Microsoft land anymore!).  Of course, 
I'm afraid that when I do change the resolution everything will be so tiny that 
it's unusable.

Also, for the life of me, I cannot figure out a way to add a shortcut to the 
desktop to avoid having to open the terminal every time and issue command 
xastir  jst to get it running.  Does anyone have any tips on that?

Is there a version or config file that makes Xastir more touch screen friendly? 
 Bigger buttons, ect?

Thanks!
 
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-02 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Jason Rausch wrote:


After playing with Xastir on my BeagleBone Black for the last week, I'm hooked. 
However, I'm having some difficulty with navigation on the 7 touch LCD.  The 
main window displays perfectly, but most of the config windows are fixed size and 
the buttons are off of the bottom of the screen.  In a couple of cases, I was able 
to dock my start bar to the left or right and just barely see enough of the buttons 
to press them.  Some other windows (like timing) are a complete no go.  So, is there 
a way I can change window sizes or at least unlock them so I can resize?  I tried to 
figure out changing the screen resolution in Wheezy, but being new to Linux (Again!  
It seems like I start all over every time.) I couldn't figure it out.  (We're not in 
Microsoft land anymore!).  Of course, I'm afraid that when I do change the 
resolution everything will be so tiny that it's unusable.

Also, for the life of me, I cannot figure out a way to add a shortcut to the desktop to avoid 
having to open the terminal every time and issue command xastir  jst to get 
it running.  Does anyone have any tips on that?

Is there a version or config file that makes Xastir more touch screen friendly? 
 Bigger buttons, ect?


What's your resolution you're working with?

I did some tweaks to the code years ago to work with a 640x480 touch screen I 
had in my Jeep.  If you have that or better, it can be made to work.

Look at the top of main.c.  Do a search for touch.  You'll see some defines 
there.  Uncomment those, then recompile/reinstall to activate them.

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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-02 Thread Jason KG4WSV


 On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's your resolution you're working with?

800x480

 I did some tweaks to the code years ago to work with a 640x480 touch screen I 
 had in my Jeep.  If you have that or better, it can be made to work.
 
 Look at the top of main.c.  Do a search for touch.  You'll see some defines 
 there.  Uncomment those, then recompile/reinstall to activate them.

This made a big difference when using a little VGA screen I had. Definitely 
worth trying. 

Working on mine now, trying to get power and the BBB networking and drivers 
figured out on the Mac - not working as advertised. 

- other Jason
kg4wsv

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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-02 Thread Jason Rausch
Curt,

The resolution is 800x480. Can I recompile the version I have installed?  The 
install was automated, so I have no idea if I can work with that or start over.

Thanks!
 
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RPC Electronics, LLC
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 From: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com
To: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com; Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
xastir@lists.xastir.org 
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
 

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Jason Rausch wrote:


 After playing with Xastir on my BeagleBone Black for the last week, I'm 
 hooked. However, I'm having some difficulty with navigation on the 7 touch 
 LCD.  The main window displays perfectly, but most of the config windows are 
 fixed size and the buttons are off of the bottom of the screen.  In a couple 
 of cases, I was able to dock my start bar to the left or right and just 
 barely see enough of the buttons to press them.  Some other windows (like 
 timing) are a complete no go.  So, is there a way I can change window sizes 
 or at least unlock them so I can resize?  I tried to figure out changing the 
 screen resolution in Wheezy, but being new to Linux (Again!  It seems like I 
 start all over every time.) I couldn't figure it out.  (We're not in 
 Microsoft land anymore!).  Of course, I'm afraid that when I do change the 
 resolution everything will be so tiny that it's unusable.

 Also, for the life of me, I cannot figure out a way to add a shortcut to the 
 desktop to avoid having to open the terminal every time and issue command 
 xastir  jst to get it running.  Does anyone have any tips on that?

 Is there a version or config file that makes Xastir more touch screen 
 friendly?  Bigger buttons, ect?

What's your resolution you're working with?

I did some tweaks to the code years ago to work with a 640x480 touch screen I 
had in my Jeep.  If you have that or better, it can be made to work.

Look at the top of main.c.  Do a search for touch.  You'll see some defines 
there.  Uncomment those, then recompile/reinstall to activate them.

-- 
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-02 Thread Tom Russo
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:18:41PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:
 Curt,
 
 The resolution is 800x480. Can I recompile the version I have installed? ?The 
 install was automated, so I have no idea if I can work with that or start 
 over.

If I recall correctly, your install was done by running the script at
http://www.175moonlight.com/xastir/raspbian-xastir-cvsbuild.sh
with minor modifications.  If so, all that automation was really just
running what most of us do by hand on other systems.

The script installs all the packages Xastir depends on, then downloads the
CVS version of Xastir and builds it.  To do what Curt's suggesting means 
skipping right to the last step after hacking the source --- you don't need to 
re-run the script, since you already have all the prerequisites.

All you need to do to rebuild Xastir with that option is to do the following:

- cd ~/src/xastir/src
- cd ~/src/xastir/build
- ../configure CPPFLAGS=-DLCD640x480TOUCH
  This is the same as if you had edited main.c and uncommented an ifdef that
  Curt mentioned, but is a lot simpler than editing code.
- make clean  make  sudo make install

Then, launch Xastir as before, but change font sizes so that everything looks
OK for you.  While the ifdef has 640x480 in its name, there is nothing 
that actually uses the 640x480 size in the code --- it's just a shorthand for
the specific use case Curt was experimenting with when he inserted this code.

Ideally, selecting these options should be done in the configure script with
an --enable-touchscreen option or something rather than by forcing CPPFLAGS 
or hand-editing code, but nobody has set it up that way.

HTH,
T.
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Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts

2014-07-02 Thread Jason Rausch
I forgot to mention the other change I noticed is the mouse pointer behavior.  
Now, when I click on the map or try to hold down to draw a zoom box, I get the 
pop up menu.  Clicking away from the menu closes it and returns to the map.  Is 
this normal behavior when the touch LCD option is enabled?  I'm assuming this 
is a way to speed up operation when using a touch only interface.
 
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RPC Electronics, LLC
www.rpc-electronics.com



 From: Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
To: Jason Rausch ja...@ke4nyv.com; Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
xastir@lists.xastir.org 
Cc: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Window Sizing and Shortcuts
 

On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:18:41PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ja...@ke4nyv.com flavor, containing:
 Curt,
 
 The resolution is 800x480. Can I recompile the version I have installed? ?The 
 install was automated, so I have no idea if I can work with that or start 
 over.

If I recall correctly, your install was done by running the script at
http://www.175moonlight.com/xastir/raspbian-xastir-cvsbuild.sh
with minor modifications.  If so, all that automation was really just
running what most of us do by hand on other systems.

The script installs all the packages Xastir depends on, then downloads the
CVS version of Xastir and builds it.  To do what Curt's suggesting means 
skipping right to the last step after hacking the source --- you don't need to 
re-run the script, since you already have all the prerequisites.

All you need to do to rebuild Xastir with that option is to do the following:

- cd ~/src/xastir/src
- cd ~/src/xastir/build
- ../configure CPPFLAGS=-DLCD640x480TOUCH
  This is the same as if you had edited main.c and uncommented an ifdef that
  Curt mentioned, but is a lot simpler than editing code.
- make clean  make  sudo make install

Then, launch Xastir as before, but change font sizes so that everything looks
OK for you.  While the ifdef has 640x480 in its name, there is nothing 
that actually uses the 640x480 size in the code --- it's just a shorthand for
the specific use case Curt was experimenting with when he inserted this code.

Ideally, selecting these options should be done in the configure script with
an --enable-touchscreen option or something rather than by forcing CPPFLAGS 
or hand-editing code, but nobody has set it up that way.

HTH,

T.
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