Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Julien Grall wrote: > On 29/02/2024 14:07, Jan Beulich wrote: > > On 29.02.2024 14:44, Julien Grall wrote: > > > Hi Jan, > > > > > > On 29/02/2024 12:51, Jan Beulich wrote: > > > > On 29.02.2024 13:32, Julien Grall wrote: > > > > > On 29/02/2024 12:17, Jan Beulich wrote: > >

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Oleksii
On Wed, 2024-02-28 at 23:11 +, Andrew Cooper wrote: > Furthermore, Linux has regularly been bumping minimum toolchain > versions > due to code generation issues, and we'd be foolish not pay attention. Do they document that? It looks like their doc is pretty old, because in

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Oleksii
On Thu, 2024-02-29 at 08:58 +0100, Jan Beulich wrote: > On 28.02.2024 23:58, Julien Grall wrote: > > On 27/02/2024 07:55, Jan Beulich wrote: > > > On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: > > > > This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and > > > > GNU Binutils; rather, these

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Julien Grall
On 29/02/2024 14:07, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 14:44, Julien Grall wrote: Hi Jan, On 29/02/2024 12:51, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 13:32, Julien Grall wrote: On 29/02/2024 12:17, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 13:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Jan Beulich
On 29.02.2024 14:44, Julien Grall wrote: > Hi Jan, > > On 29/02/2024 12:51, Jan Beulich wrote: >> On 29.02.2024 13:32, Julien Grall wrote: >>> On 29/02/2024 12:17, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 13:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: > IOW it

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Jan, On 29/02/2024 12:51, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 13:32, Julien Grall wrote: On 29/02/2024 12:17, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 13:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: IOW it is hard for me to see why RISC-V needs stronger restrictions here

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Jan Beulich
On 29.02.2024 13:32, Julien Grall wrote: > On 29/02/2024 12:17, Jan Beulich wrote: >> On 29.02.2024 13:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: >>> On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: >>> IOW it is hard for me to see why RISC-V needs stronger restrictions >>> here >>> than other architectures.

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 29/02/2024 12:17, Jan Beulich wrote: On 29.02.2024 13:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: IOW it is hard for me to see why RISC-V needs stronger restrictions here than other architectures. It ought to be possible to determine a baseline version. Even if

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Andrew, On 29/02/2024 12:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: IOW it is hard for me to see why RISC-V needs stronger restrictions here than other architectures. It ought to be possible to determine a baseline version. Even if taking the desire to have "pause"

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Jan Beulich
On 29.02.2024 13:05, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: > IOW it is hard for me to see why RISC-V needs stronger restrictions > here > than other architectures. It ought to be possible to determine a > baseline > version. Even if taking the

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 29/02/2024 10:23 am, Julien Grall wrote: IOW it is hard for me to see why RISC-V needs stronger restrictions here than other architectures. It ought to be possible to determine a baseline version. Even if taking the desire to have "pause" available as a

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Jan Beulich
On 29.02.2024 12:56, Jan Beulich wrote: > On 29.02.2024 11:23, Julien Grall wrote: >> On 29/02/2024 07:58, Jan Beulich wrote: >>> (And >>> no, upgrading the ancient distros on that ancient hardware is not an >>> option for me.) >> >> May I ask why? Is it because newer distros don't support your

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Jan Beulich
On 29.02.2024 11:23, Julien Grall wrote: > On 29/02/2024 07:58, Jan Beulich wrote: >> Therefore being too >> eager there would mean I can't really / easily (smoke) test Xen >> anymore on ancient hardware every once in a while. When afaict we do >> too little of such testing already anyway, despite

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-29 Thread Julien Grall
On 29/02/2024 07:58, Jan Beulich wrote: On 28.02.2024 23:58, Julien Grall wrote: On 27/02/2024 07:55, Jan Beulich wrote: On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-28 Thread Jan Beulich
On 28.02.2024 23:58, Julien Grall wrote: > On 27/02/2024 07:55, Jan Beulich wrote: >> On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: >>> This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and >>> GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed by >>> the Xen RISC-V container

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-28 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 28/02/2024 10:58 pm, Julien Grall wrote: > Hi Jan, > > On 27/02/2024 07:55, Jan Beulich wrote: >> On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: >>> This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and >>> GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed by >>> the Xen

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-28 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Jan, On 27/02/2024 07:55, Jan Beulich wrote: On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed by the Xen RISC-V container and are anticipated to undergo continuous

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-28 Thread Oleksii
On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 08:55 +0100, Jan Beulich wrote: > On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: > > This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and > > GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed by > > the Xen RISC-V container and are anticipated to undergo

Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-26 Thread Jan Beulich
On 26.02.2024 18:39, Oleksii Kurochko wrote: > This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and > GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed by > the Xen RISC-V container and are anticipated to undergo continuous > testing. Up and until that container would be

[PATCH v5 23/23] xen/README: add compiler and binutils versions for RISC-V64

2024-02-26 Thread Oleksii Kurochko
This patch doesn't represent a strict lower bound for GCC and GNU Binutils; rather, these versions are specifically employed by the Xen RISC-V container and are anticipated to undergo continuous testing. While it is feasible to utilize Clang, it's important to note that, currently, there is no