Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 09/10] arm: add QEMU, Rcar3 and MPSoC configs
On 05/31/2018 10:38 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2018, Julien Grall wrote: On 30/05/2018 22:39, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2018, Julien Grall wrote: Hi Stefano, On 23/05/18 01:25, Stefano Stabellini wrote: Add a "Platform Support" menu with three umbrella kconfig options: QEMU, RCAR3 and MPSOC. They enable the required options for their hardware platform. They are introduced for convience: the user will be able to simply open the menu and enable the right config for her platform. Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini CC: artem_myga...@epam.com CC: volodymyr_babc...@epam.com --- Note that this approach has a limitation: it is not possible to "select a range". In other words, using tiny.config NR_CPUS is set to 4. It is not possible to increase it to 8 from config RCAR3. What you can do is: config NR_CPUS range ... default "8" if (RCAR3) default "x" if (QEMU) default 64 This would imply to move NR_CPUS in arch/{arm,x86}/Kconfig. This solution is not very nice, but at least would provide a better experience to the user. Unfortunately, make olddefconfig is executed automatically when make is called, adding CONFIG_NR_CPUS=128. Thus, unless tiny.config has already CONFIG_RCAR3 in it, the correct default won't be applied. This suggestions only make sense if we introduce per-platform configs, such as xen/arch/arm/configs/tiny-rcar3.config. The other solution is to introduce a new command (or script) that will select the platform at the same time as olddefconfig. This would avoid to create a config per board and still keeping only one tiny config. I am not looking forward to making changes to the kconfig commands, but fortunately I was wrong on my previous reply: the issue was the order of the defaults in the range! To fix the problem I just had to: default "8" if ARM && RCAR3 default "4" if ARM && QEMU default "4" if ARM && MPSOC default "256" if X86 default "128" if ARM Suggestions are welcome. --- xen/arch/arm/Kconfig | 2 ++ xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig | 30 ++ 2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) create mode 100644 xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig index a5a6943..b5ddd12 100644 --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@ config ARM64_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR config ARM32_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR def_bool y if ARM_32 && HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR +source "arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig" + source "common/Kconfig" source "drivers/Kconfig" diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig new file mode 100644 index 000..0eafbef --- /dev/null +++ b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +menu "Platform Support" + +config QEMU + bool "QEMU aarch virt machine support" + default n The default value is confusing here. The default .config will support QEMU but not select that. While I don't yet buy the argument, some users will also want to remove platform specific code (Andrii suggest that). This would means by default support for a specific platform will not be in Xen. Furthermore, very likely, the end user will select either one board (e.g automotive) or all of them (e.g distribution). So I think it would be better to do a choice list: - All -> Board support for all board added. Drivers selected by the user - MPSOC -> Select board support for Xilinx + appropriate drivers - RCAR3 -> Select board support for RCAR3 + appropriate drivers The tiny.config would select ALL. This could then be refined by selecting a specific platform. The idea of an "ALL" configuration is interesting, however, all the options we would select under "ALL" already default to "Y". Effectively, if we remove the following lines from tiny.config: # CONFIG_GICV3 is not set # CONFIG_MEM_ACCESS is not set # CONFIG_SBSA_VUART_CONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_HAS_NS16550 is not set # CONFIG_HAS_CADENCE_UART is not set # CONFIG_HAS_MVEBU is not set # CONFIG_HAS_PL011 is not set # CONFIG_HAS_SCIF is not set # CONFIG_ARM_SMMU is not set then, it would be as if tiny.config had CONFIG_ALL=y, because after running `make olddefconfig' it would get all these options set to "Y". Given that make olddefconfig is always executed automatically by make, I cannot even remove the "is not set" options above from tiny.config because otherwise they will all be automatically enabled always unless I change all the defaults from Y to N. In fact, the main issue is that it is not possible to deselect Kconfig options using the Kconfig infrastructure. So, if a user has a config with CONFIG_ALL in it, then she executes `make menuconfig' to select RCAR3 and reduce the config size, the menu won't actually be able to deselect any other option automatically. This is very unfortunate. For instance, if the config has
Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 09/10] arm: add QEMU, Rcar3 and MPSoC configs
On Wed, 30 May 2018, Julien Grall wrote: > On 30/05/2018 22:39, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > On Tue, 29 May 2018, Julien Grall wrote: > > > Hi Stefano, > > > > > > On 23/05/18 01:25, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > > Add a "Platform Support" menu with three umbrella kconfig options: QEMU, > > > > RCAR3 and MPSOC. They enable the required options for their hardware > > > > platform. > > > > > > > > They are introduced for convience: the user will be able to simply open > > > > the menu and enable the right config for her platform. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini > > > > CC: artem_myga...@epam.com > > > > CC: volodymyr_babc...@epam.com > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Note that this approach has a limitation: it is not possible to "select > > > > a range". In other words, using tiny.config NR_CPUS is set to 4. It is > > > > not possible to increase it to 8 from config RCAR3. > > > > > > What you can do is: > > > > > > config NR_CPUS > > > range ... > > > default "8" if (RCAR3) > > > default "x" if (QEMU) > > > default 64 > > > > > > This would imply to move NR_CPUS in arch/{arm,x86}/Kconfig. > > > > > > This solution is not very nice, but at least would provide a better > > > experience > > > to the user. > > > > Unfortunately, make olddefconfig is executed automatically when make is > > called, adding CONFIG_NR_CPUS=128. Thus, unless tiny.config has already > > CONFIG_RCAR3 in it, the correct default won't be applied. > > > > This suggestions only make sense if we introduce per-platform configs, > > such as xen/arch/arm/configs/tiny-rcar3.config. > > The other solution is to introduce a new command (or script) that will select > the platform at the same time as olddefconfig. > > This would avoid to create a config per board and still keeping only one tiny > config. I am not looking forward to making changes to the kconfig commands, but fortunately I was wrong on my previous reply: the issue was the order of the defaults in the range! To fix the problem I just had to: default "8" if ARM && RCAR3 default "4" if ARM && QEMU default "4" if ARM && MPSOC default "256" if X86 default "128" if ARM > > > > Suggestions are welcome. > > > > --- > > > >xen/arch/arm/Kconfig | 2 ++ > > > >xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig | 30 ++ > > > >2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) > > > >create mode 100644 xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > > > > > > > diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig > > > > index a5a6943..b5ddd12 100644 > > > > --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig > > > > +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig > > > > @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@ config ARM64_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR > > > >config ARM32_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR > > > >def_bool y if ARM_32 && HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR > > > >+source "arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig" > > > > + > > > >source "common/Kconfig" > > > > source "drivers/Kconfig" > > > > diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > > > b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > > > new file mode 100644 > > > > index 000..0eafbef > > > > --- /dev/null > > > > +++ b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ > > > > +menu "Platform Support" > > > > + > > > > +config QEMU > > > > + bool "QEMU aarch virt machine support" > > > > + default n > > > The default value is confusing here. The default .config will support QEMU > > > but > > > not select that. > > > > > > While I don't yet buy the argument, some users will also want to remove > > > platform specific code (Andrii suggest that). This would means by default > > > support for a specific platform will not be in Xen. > > > > > > Furthermore, very likely, the end user will select either one board (e.g > > > automotive) or all of them (e.g distribution). > > > > > > So I think it would be better to do a choice list: > > > - All -> Board support for all board added. Drivers selected by the > > > user > > > - MPSOC -> Select board support for Xilinx + appropriate drivers > > > - RCAR3 -> Select board support for RCAR3 + appropriate drivers > > > > > > The tiny.config would select ALL. This could then be refined by selecting > > > a > > > specific platform. > > > > The idea of an "ALL" configuration is interesting, however, all the > > options we would select under "ALL" already default to "Y". Effectively, > > if we remove the following lines from tiny.config: > > > > # CONFIG_GICV3 is not set > > # CONFIG_MEM_ACCESS is not set > > # CONFIG_SBSA_VUART_CONSOLE is not set > > # CONFIG_HAS_NS16550 is not set > > # CONFIG_HAS_CADENCE_UART is not set > > # CONFIG_HAS_MVEBU is not set > > # CONFIG_HAS_PL011 is not set > > # CONFIG_HAS_SCIF is not set > > # CONFIG_ARM_SMMU is not set > > > > then, it would be as if tiny.config had CONFIG_ALL=y, because after > > running `make olddefconfig' it would get all these options set to "Y". > > > > Given that make olddefconfig is
Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 09/10] arm: add QEMU, Rcar3 and MPSoC configs
On 30/05/2018 22:39, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2018, Julien Grall wrote: Hi Stefano, On 23/05/18 01:25, Stefano Stabellini wrote: Add a "Platform Support" menu with three umbrella kconfig options: QEMU, RCAR3 and MPSOC. They enable the required options for their hardware platform. They are introduced for convience: the user will be able to simply open the menu and enable the right config for her platform. Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini CC: artem_myga...@epam.com CC: volodymyr_babc...@epam.com --- Note that this approach has a limitation: it is not possible to "select a range". In other words, using tiny.config NR_CPUS is set to 4. It is not possible to increase it to 8 from config RCAR3. What you can do is: config NR_CPUS range ... default "8" if (RCAR3) default "x" if (QEMU) default 64 This would imply to move NR_CPUS in arch/{arm,x86}/Kconfig. This solution is not very nice, but at least would provide a better experience to the user. Unfortunately, make olddefconfig is executed automatically when make is called, adding CONFIG_NR_CPUS=128. Thus, unless tiny.config has already CONFIG_RCAR3 in it, the correct default won't be applied. This suggestions only make sense if we introduce per-platform configs, such as xen/arch/arm/configs/tiny-rcar3.config. The other solution is to introduce a new command (or script) that will select the platform at the same time as olddefconfig. This would avoid to create a config per board and still keeping only one tiny config. Suggestions are welcome. --- xen/arch/arm/Kconfig | 2 ++ xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig | 30 ++ 2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) create mode 100644 xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig index a5a6943..b5ddd12 100644 --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@ config ARM64_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR config ARM32_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR def_bool y if ARM_32 && HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR +source "arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig" + source "common/Kconfig" source "drivers/Kconfig" diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig new file mode 100644 index 000..0eafbef --- /dev/null +++ b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +menu "Platform Support" + +config QEMU + bool "QEMU aarch virt machine support" + default n The default value is confusing here. The default .config will support QEMU but not select that. While I don't yet buy the argument, some users will also want to remove platform specific code (Andrii suggest that). This would means by default support for a specific platform will not be in Xen. Furthermore, very likely, the end user will select either one board (e.g automotive) or all of them (e.g distribution). So I think it would be better to do a choice list: - All -> Board support for all board added. Drivers selected by the user - MPSOC -> Select board support for Xilinx + appropriate drivers - RCAR3 -> Select board support for RCAR3 + appropriate drivers The tiny.config would select ALL. This could then be refined by selecting a specific platform. The idea of an "ALL" configuration is interesting, however, all the options we would select under "ALL" already default to "Y". Effectively, if we remove the following lines from tiny.config: # CONFIG_GICV3 is not set # CONFIG_MEM_ACCESS is not set # CONFIG_SBSA_VUART_CONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_HAS_NS16550 is not set # CONFIG_HAS_CADENCE_UART is not set # CONFIG_HAS_MVEBU is not set # CONFIG_HAS_PL011 is not set # CONFIG_HAS_SCIF is not set # CONFIG_ARM_SMMU is not set then, it would be as if tiny.config had CONFIG_ALL=y, because after running `make olddefconfig' it would get all these options set to "Y". Given that make olddefconfig is always executed automatically by make, I cannot even remove the "is not set" options above from tiny.config because otherwise they will all be automatically enabled always unless I change all the defaults from Y to N. In fact, the main issue is that it is not possible to deselect Kconfig options using the Kconfig infrastructure. So, if a user has a config with CONFIG_ALL in it, then she executes `make menuconfig' to select RCAR3 and reduce the config size, the menu won't actually be able to deselect any other option automatically. This is very unfortunate. For instance, if the config has CADENCE_UART, and the user selects CONFIG_RCAR3 from the menu, the resulting config will still have CADENCE_UART, unless she goes to remove it by hand. Given all this, I don't know if it is worth introducing CONFIG_ALL. I could add something like: +config ALL + bool "Support for all platforms" + default y + select GICv3 + select HAS_NS16550 + select HAS_CADENCE_UART + select HAS_PL011 + select HAS_EXYNOS4210 + select
Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 09/10] arm: add QEMU, Rcar3 and MPSoC configs
On Tue, 29 May 2018, Julien Grall wrote: > Hi Stefano, > > On 23/05/18 01:25, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > Add a "Platform Support" menu with three umbrella kconfig options: QEMU, > > RCAR3 and MPSOC. They enable the required options for their hardware > > platform. > > > > They are introduced for convience: the user will be able to simply open > > the menu and enable the right config for her platform. > > > > Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini > > CC: artem_myga...@epam.com > > CC: volodymyr_babc...@epam.com > > > > --- > > Note that this approach has a limitation: it is not possible to "select > > a range". In other words, using tiny.config NR_CPUS is set to 4. It is > > not possible to increase it to 8 from config RCAR3. > > What you can do is: > > config NR_CPUS > range ... > default "8" if (RCAR3) > default "x" if (QEMU) > default 64 > > This would imply to move NR_CPUS in arch/{arm,x86}/Kconfig. > > This solution is not very nice, but at least would provide a better experience > to the user. Unfortunately, make olddefconfig is executed automatically when make is called, adding CONFIG_NR_CPUS=128. Thus, unless tiny.config has already CONFIG_RCAR3 in it, the correct default won't be applied. This suggestions only make sense if we introduce per-platform configs, such as xen/arch/arm/configs/tiny-rcar3.config. > > Suggestions are welcome. > > --- > > xen/arch/arm/Kconfig | 2 ++ > > xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig | 30 ++ > > 2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) > > create mode 100644 xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > > > diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig > > index a5a6943..b5ddd12 100644 > > --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig > > +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig > > @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@ config ARM64_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR > > config ARM32_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR > > def_bool y if ARM_32 && HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR > > +source "arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig" > > + > > source "common/Kconfig" > > source "drivers/Kconfig" > > diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > new file mode 100644 > > index 000..0eafbef > > --- /dev/null > > +++ b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig > > @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ > > +menu "Platform Support" > > + > > +config QEMU > > + bool "QEMU aarch virt machine support" > > + default n > The default value is confusing here. The default .config will support QEMU but > not select that. > > While I don't yet buy the argument, some users will also want to remove > platform specific code (Andrii suggest that). This would means by default > support for a specific platform will not be in Xen. > > Furthermore, very likely, the end user will select either one board (e.g > automotive) or all of them (e.g distribution). > > So I think it would be better to do a choice list: > - All -> Board support for all board added. Drivers selected by the > user > - MPSOC -> Select board support for Xilinx + appropriate drivers > - RCAR3 -> Select board support for RCAR3 + appropriate drivers > > The tiny.config would select ALL. This could then be refined by selecting a > specific platform. The idea of an "ALL" configuration is interesting, however, all the options we would select under "ALL" already default to "Y". Effectively, if we remove the following lines from tiny.config: # CONFIG_GICV3 is not set # CONFIG_MEM_ACCESS is not set # CONFIG_SBSA_VUART_CONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_HAS_NS16550 is not set # CONFIG_HAS_CADENCE_UART is not set # CONFIG_HAS_MVEBU is not set # CONFIG_HAS_PL011 is not set # CONFIG_HAS_SCIF is not set # CONFIG_ARM_SMMU is not set then, it would be as if tiny.config had CONFIG_ALL=y, because after running `make olddefconfig' it would get all these options set to "Y". Given that make olddefconfig is always executed automatically by make, I cannot even remove the "is not set" options above from tiny.config because otherwise they will all be automatically enabled always unless I change all the defaults from Y to N. In fact, the main issue is that it is not possible to deselect Kconfig options using the Kconfig infrastructure. So, if a user has a config with CONFIG_ALL in it, then she executes `make menuconfig' to select RCAR3 and reduce the config size, the menu won't actually be able to deselect any other option automatically. This is very unfortunate. For instance, if the config has CADENCE_UART, and the user selects CONFIG_RCAR3 from the menu, the resulting config will still have CADENCE_UART, unless she goes to remove it by hand. Given all this, I don't know if it is worth introducing CONFIG_ALL. I could add something like: +config ALL + bool "Support for all platforms" + default y + select GICv3 + select HAS_NS16550 + select HAS_CADENCE_UART + select HAS_PL011 + select HAS_EXYNOS4210 + select HAS_MVEBU + select HAS_OMAP + select HAS_SCIF + select
Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 09/10] arm: add QEMU, Rcar3 and MPSoC configs
Hi Stefano, On 23/05/18 01:25, Stefano Stabellini wrote: Add a "Platform Support" menu with three umbrella kconfig options: QEMU, RCAR3 and MPSOC. They enable the required options for their hardware platform. They are introduced for convience: the user will be able to simply open the menu and enable the right config for her platform. Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini CC: artem_myga...@epam.com CC: volodymyr_babc...@epam.com --- Note that this approach has a limitation: it is not possible to "select a range". In other words, using tiny.config NR_CPUS is set to 4. It is not possible to increase it to 8 from config RCAR3. What you can do is: config NR_CPUS range ... default "8" if (RCAR3) default "x" if (QEMU) default 64 This would imply to move NR_CPUS in arch/{arm,x86}/Kconfig. This solution is not very nice, but at least would provide a better experience to the user. Suggestions are welcome. --- xen/arch/arm/Kconfig | 2 ++ xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig | 30 ++ 2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) create mode 100644 xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig index a5a6943..b5ddd12 100644 --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@ config ARM64_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR config ARM32_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR def_bool y if ARM_32 && HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR +source "arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig" + source "common/Kconfig" source "drivers/Kconfig" diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig new file mode 100644 index 000..0eafbef --- /dev/null +++ b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +menu "Platform Support" + +config QEMU + bool "QEMU aarch virt machine support" + default n The default value is confusing here. The default .config will support QEMU but not select that. While I don't yet buy the argument, some users will also want to remove platform specific code (Andrii suggest that). This would means by default support for a specific platform will not be in Xen. Furthermore, very likely, the end user will select either one board (e.g automotive) or all of them (e.g distribution). So I think it would be better to do a choice list: - All -> Board support for all board added. Drivers selected by the user - MPSOC -> Select board support for Xilinx + appropriate drivers - RCAR3 -> Select board support for RCAR3 + appropriate drivers The tiny.config would select ALL. This could then be refined by selecting a specific platform. Cheers, -- Julien Grall ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-devel
[Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 09/10] arm: add QEMU, Rcar3 and MPSoC configs
Add a "Platform Support" menu with three umbrella kconfig options: QEMU, RCAR3 and MPSOC. They enable the required options for their hardware platform. They are introduced for convience: the user will be able to simply open the menu and enable the right config for her platform. Signed-off-by: Stefano StabelliniCC: artem_myga...@epam.com CC: volodymyr_babc...@epam.com --- Note that this approach has a limitation: it is not possible to "select a range". In other words, using tiny.config NR_CPUS is set to 4. It is not possible to increase it to 8 from config RCAR3. Suggestions are welcome. --- xen/arch/arm/Kconfig | 2 ++ xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig | 30 ++ 2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) create mode 100644 xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig index a5a6943..b5ddd12 100644 --- a/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig +++ b/xen/arch/arm/Kconfig @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@ config ARM64_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR config ARM32_HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR def_bool y if ARM_32 && HARDEN_BRANCH_PREDICTOR +source "arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig" + source "common/Kconfig" source "drivers/Kconfig" diff --git a/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig new file mode 100644 index 000..0eafbef --- /dev/null +++ b/xen/arch/arm/platforms/Kconfig @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +menu "Platform Support" + +config QEMU + bool "QEMU aarch virt machine support" + default n + depends on ARM_64 + select GICv3 + select PL011 + ---help--- + Enable all the required drivers for QEMU aarch64 virt emulated + machine. + +config RCAR3 + bool "Renesas RCar3 support" + default n + depends on ARM_64 + select SCIF + ---help--- + Enable all the required drivers for Renesas RCar3 + +config MPSOC + bool "Xilinx Ultrascale+ MPSoC support" + default n + depends on ARM_64 + select CADENCE_UART + select ARM_SMMU + ---help--- + Enable all the required drivers for Xilinx Ultrascale+ MPSoC + +endmenu -- 1.9.1 ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-devel