Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Thu, 9 Jan 2014 01:03:29 +0100 schrieb Zdenek Wagner: Apparently something strange is done inside babel, with babel in xetex I get the same result as you. I tried the following file using polyglossia: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setdefaultlanguage{german}

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Philip Taylor
Ulrike Fischer wrote: but I cannot understand why geißeln is not hyphenated. Both babel and polyglossia set \lefthyphenmin and \righthyphenmin to 2, thus hyphenation is allowed. Yes this is quite curious. Hyphenation before a ß seems to be suppressed. Would that not simply be a

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Thu, 9 Jan 2014 09:16:00 + schrieb Philip Taylor: Ulrike Fischer wrote: but I cannot understand why geißeln is not hyphenated. Both babel and polyglossia set \lefthyphenmin and \righthyphenmin to 2, thus hyphenation is allowed. Yes this is quite curious. Hyphenation before a ß

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Philip Taylor
Ulrike Fischer wrote: lualatex has not problems to hyphenate geißeln and imho it uses the same patterns: Well, LUATEX uses a finite state hash to match the patterns against the word to be hyphenated., so it would seem to me that LuaTeX's behaviour cannot be considered as normative. ** Phil.

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Well, LUATEX uses a finite state hash to match the patterns against the word to be hyphenated., so it would seem to me that LuaTeX's behaviour cannot be considered as normative. If indeed LuaTeX finds hyphenation points that XeTeX misses, using the same patterns, it is an improvement. But I

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Georg Pfeiffer
Am Do 09 Jan 2014, 01:03:29 Uhr, schrieb Zdenek Wagner: At least it can hyphenate wußte but I cannot understand why geißeln is not hyphenated. Thank you for vour investigation. The difference is, that in „geißeln“ the hyphenation is in front of the ß, in „wußte“ behind it. Those before ß

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:44:31 + schrieb Arthur Reutenauer: Well, LUATEX uses a finite state hash to match the patterns against the word to be hyphenated., so it would seem to me that LuaTeX's behaviour cannot be considered as normative. If indeed LuaTeX finds hyphenation points that

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation around „ß“

2014-01-09 Thread Javier Bezos
El 09/01/2014 17:27, Ulrike Fischer escribió: And I checked with miktex + babel 3.8m and texlive + babel 3.9h. In both cases I can see the difference between lualatex and xelatex. So it can't be something new in babel. In fact, in my system (TL) I can see the differences selecting the