Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-21 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
long vocalic l isn't the sole problem. But even if it were, yes, it's a big deal because linguists have to be able to say that ḹ doesn't occur. :-) On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 09:34, BPJ wrote: > Is it such a big deal? After all the long vocalic L occurs only in made up > words. > >

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-21 Thread BPJ
Is it such a big deal? After all the long vocalic L occurs only in made up words. Den mån 20 maj 2019 20:44Steve White skrev: > Dominic, > > I already wrote to somebody listed at the tiro.com website. > Yes, please, you point out the issues to the Sanskrit2003 people. > > On Mon, May 20, 2019

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-20 Thread Steve White
Dominic, I already wrote to somebody listed at the tiro.com website. Yes, please, you point out the issues to the Sanskrit2003 people. On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:40 PM Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > > Thank you for all this exploration, Steve! > > If you can talk to the Murty people, perhaps I can

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-20 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
Thank you for all this exploration, Steve! If you can talk to the Murty people, perhaps I can try the Sanskrit 2003 folks. I've emailed with them successfully in the past, about (C) (which is liberal but not well documented by them). Dominik

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-20 Thread Steve White
I looked into the Sanskrit2003 font today. The strange vertical mark seen in the samples of that font are easy to explain. The glyph at U+0304 in the font is simply incorrect: it should be the combining macron --- instead it is a double vertical line. Other combining marks are missing in the

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-19 Thread Steve White
A few related points. First, the issue with Murty Sanskrit and the l with dot below and macron is of course a font issue. Simply: the font is missing the glyph at U+1E39, which is exactly LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH DOT BELOW AND MACRON I'll try to give the developers of that font a

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-19 Thread Steve White
In these tests, I'm using: FreeSerif from the SVN *before* my attempt at a "fix" (r. 3391) Sanskrit 2003 1.05 August 22, 2004 Murty Sanskrit 001.001 I found the particular way that the font is set in the source has a big effect. I have no idea what is "right". But one produces better results.

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-19 Thread Steve White
Hi, all, I have reproduced François' effect with FreeSerif, as well as Dominik's effect with Sanskrit 2003. I started with stock Linux Mint 19.1. Then I installled TeXLive 2018 from the PPA of jonathonf/texlive-2018. In the results of running xelatex on the sample, I did not see any

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-19 Thread Steve White
Hi Zdeněk, I don't see anything amiss in my TL 2019 installation on Linux Mint. (Only Murty Sanskrit shows some oddities) However, even there XeLaTeX says: Compiled with HarfBuzz version 1.7.6; using 1.7.6 I suspect the problem has something to do with Harfbuzz 2.3.1, and I would very much like

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-17 Thread Zdenek Wagner
Hi, I can do it later this afternoon and I know how to build FreeFont from your svn repo. Zdeněk Wagner http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz čt 16. 5. 2019 v 23:00 odesílatel Steve White napsal: > > Hi, > > I looked through the attachments to the previous

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-16 Thread Steve White
Hi, I looked through the attachments to the previous postings, and some of the images are consistent with the positioning feature being turned off. That may now be fixed for FreeSerif. However there were some that showed a completely wrong mark appearing, far from the base mark. I have no idea

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-16 Thread Steve White
Hi Jonathan, You may have a point, although I don't think it's the whole story. (Most of what follows is font-techy. Upshot is: I did find suspicious issues in FreeFont, and have now fixed them.) The font feature in FreeSerif that positions generic marks like these is mark ('generic marks

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-16 Thread Zdenek Wagner
čt 16. 5. 2019 v 14:30 odesílatel Jonathan Kew napsal: > > On 16/05/2019 12:31, Ulrike Fischer wrote: > > Am Mon, 13 May 2019 17:52:17 +0200 schrieb François Patte: > > > >> I have just made a fresh install of texlive 2019 and encountered a > >> problem with the diacritical marks of romanized

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-16 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 16/05/2019 12:31, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Mon, 13 May 2019 17:52:17 +0200 schrieb François Patte: I have just made a fresh install of texlive 2019 and encountered a problem with the diacritical marks of romanized sanskrit. Do the 'dev2' script tables in FreeSerif include positioning

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-16 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Mon, 13 May 2019 17:52:17 +0200 schrieb François Patte: > I have just made a fresh install of texlive 2019 and encountered a > problem with the diacritical marks of romanized sanskrit. (copied from f.c.t.t): One can see it with plain xetex too, and it is not the font (I'm forcing it to

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-15 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
Saying \setdefaultlanguage[Script=Latin]{sanskrit} produces a correct result. So it's something to do with the Script=Devanagari setting, I think.

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-15 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 15/05/2019 à 02:06, Dominik Wujastyk a écrit : > > I don't think it's the font. I've just tried this MWE with several > font choices, > > \documentclass{book} \usepackage{polyglossia} > \setdefaultlanguage{sanskrit} \setmainfont{Sanskrit 2003}

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-15 Thread Zdenek Wagner
st 15. 5. 2019 v 2:07 odesílatel Dominik Wujastyk napsal: > > I don't think it's the font. I've just tried this MWE with several font > choices, > > \documentclass{book} > \usepackage{polyglossia} > \setdefaultlanguage{sanskrit} > \setmainfont{Sanskrit 2003} > \begin{document} > ā ī ū ṛ ṝ ḷ ḹ

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-14 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
I don't think it's the font. I've just tried this MWE with several font choices, \documentclass{book} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setdefaultlanguage{sanskrit} \setmainfont{Sanskrit 2003} \begin{document} ā ī ū ṛ ṝ ḷ ḹ ṭ ḍ ṅ ś ṣ ḥ \end{document} Sanskrit 2003 gives this: [image: image.png] Murty

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-14 Thread Zdenek Wagner
út 14. 5. 2019 v 23:21 odesílatel Steve White napsal: > > Hi Guys, > > I ran xelatex on your Tex file on my system, using a recent build of > GNU FreeSerif. > (I don't know if xetex is getting the font from the system > installation or from its own installation.) > It depends on OS and on

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-14 Thread Steve White
Hi Guys, I ran xelatex on your Tex file on my system, using a recent build of GNU FreeSerif. (I don't know if xetex is getting the font from the system installation or from its own installation.) As near as I can tell, the results are very good. Did I miss something? Is it possible that you

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-14 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 14/05/2019 à 13:32, Zdenek Wagner a écrit : > Bonjour, > > I have not tried myself, I do not have TL 2019 yet but I would > suspect it is a font related issue. It might (or might not) be > related to these changes in svn: > >

Re: [XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-14 Thread Zdenek Wagner
Bonjour, I have not tried myself, I do not have TL 2019 yet but I would suspect it is a font related issue. It might (or might not) be related to these changes in svn: r3987 | Stevan_White | 2018-12-20 18:15:39 +0100 (Thu,

[XeTeX] bug in polyglossia/sanskrit? (problem with diacritical marks)

2019-05-13 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I have just made a fresh install of texlive 2019 and encountered a problem with the diacritical marks of romanized sanskrit. See this mwe (compile it with and without \setdefaultlanguage{sanskrit}) :