I'll reply to this, but I know David and others aren't interested, so, guys,
feel free to ignore it, 'k?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:36:29PM -0500, Andy Goth wrote:
> Since everybody has a different opinion, I think it would make sense to set up 
> the mail server so that people can choose whether or not they want Reply-To 
> fields tacked onto emails they receive.  This should make everybody (except 
> the admin, heh) happy.
> 
> Then only remaining debate would be what should be the default.  Existing 
> users should be set to Reply-To mode until they tell the server otherwise.
> 
> As for new users, the subscribe page should have a checkbox (by default 
> checked) enabling Reply-To fields.  If there is also an email-only way to 
> subscribe (I don't know), it should by default enable Reply-To, and the 
> subscription confirmation message should explain the issues and how to change 
> the Reply-To setting.
> 
> Rationale: My observations indicate that it's mostly people with longtime 
> experience who complain about Reply-To, so these people should be capable of 
> follow simple instructions to change their account settings.

I'm not sure this will help, Andy: it's precisely those people who will
complain because of their knowledge who *don't* need it.  It's the *newbies*,
who've never been on a list before, and don't realize that they need to look,
who are the problem.

This is, I think, one of the very rare circumstances where it doesn't really
much matter if you supply the knob -- there is no good default.  The reason
for which, of course, is that one setting of the knob solves one problem, and
the other a related, but quite different problem.

<argument category=inflammatory>
It is, alas, much akin to the argument between the anti-abortion camp and the
pro-abortion camp.  Oh, I mean the pro-life camp and the anti-life camp.

You see the problem: one side is "pro-abortion-*rights*", and the other side
is "pro-life".  Two almost completely different topics, tied together by a
common base subject.  Same thing here.

Hitler!

Godwin!
</argument>

> It doesn't matter much to me if someone actually implements this suggestion.  
> If it happens, I'll turn off Reply-To's for mails sent to me.  If it doesn't 
> happen, I won't complain.  It may be a little ugly, but I know how to use my 
> mua to send to the original poster despite Reply-To's setting, so long as 
> he/she didn't have to set Reply-To in the first place.

And your MUA likely has enough *control* to let you deal appropriately, which
ties into the "won't help the pros" argument above.

> Yeah, I know I said I wouldn't reply, but I think that maybe, just maybe, the 
> above might lead to a resolution nearly everybody can (grudgingly?) live 
> with.

Hmmm...


Cheers,
-- jra
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