Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Day
Hi Elliotte, > I object to releasing errata to change the clear meaning of a spec (not > that that hasn't been done before). > > Upgrades need a new version number. In this case I was hoping that it is sufficiently similar to the UTF-8 BOM case, in that it's really just an acknowledgment that

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-22 Thread Elliotte Harold
Michael Day wrote: > Hi Elliotte, > >> Not everyone, While I like more scripts in name characters, I for one >> don't agree that not explicitly specifying the set of UNICODE >> characters that can be used in names is an improvement. > > In that case, what about releasing a series of errata to e

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-21 Thread Michael Day
Hi Elliotte, > Not everyone, While I like more scripts in name characters, I for one > don't agree that not explicitly specifying the set of UNICODE characters > that can be used in names is an improvement. In that case, what about releasing a series of errata to expand the set of UNICODE char

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-21 Thread Elliotte Harold
Michael Day wrote: > The only part of XML 1.1 that everyone agrees is reasonable is the > support for more scripts in name characters, and avoiding explicitly > specifying the set of UNICODE characters that can be used in names. Not everyone, While I like more scripts in name characters, I for

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-21 Thread Elliotte Harold
Cory Nelson wrote: > Better Unicode support is definitely not a minor thing. > But that itself is not an unalloyed characteristic of XML 1.1. XML 1.1 has better Unicode support in some respects (no C1 controls allowed, Cambodian and Ethiopic support) but has decidedly worse Unicode support in

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-16 Thread Michael Day
Hi Liam, > Are you sure you're not thinking about XPath 1.0 and 2.0 here? The > changes for XML 1.0/1.1 are very small in terms of code, and there > are very few productions in the Spec grammar that are affected. No. XPath 2.0 could easily be implemented in parallel with the existing XPath 1.0 i

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-16 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 08:49:59PM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > But there's no use us discussing it further, it sounds as if right > now Daniel won't even accept a patch for it (even if I had the > time to write & test one, which alas I don't) A lot of the cost of such a change is not developpi

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 16:29 +1000, Michael Day wrote: [...] > I think that the changes required to support XML 1.1 would go so deep > into the implementation that it could actually be easier to fork libxml2 > and have two separate libraries, one for XML 1.0 and one for XML 1.1. Are you sure you'

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-15 Thread Cory Nelson
On 6/15/07, Daniel Veillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 09:56:30PM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:19 +0200, Oliver Meyer wrote: > > [...] > > > So, the short answer is "No, libxml is not going to support xml version > > > 1.1". > > > > I think this

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 09:56:30PM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:19 +0200, Oliver Meyer wrote: > [...] > > So, the short answer is "No, libxml is not going to support xml version > > 1.1". > > I think this is sad. I agree that is a silliness that we could > do without --

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-14 Thread Michael Day
Hi Liam, > The worst is requiring XML 1.0 processors to reject XML 1.1 > documents, I think that was a big mistake. But I'd still > like to see libxml support XML 1.1. I think that the changes required to support XML 1.1 would go so deep into the implementation that it could actually be easier

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-14 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 10:19 +0200, Oliver Meyer wrote: [...] > So, the short answer is "No, libxml is not going to support xml version > 1.1". I think this is sad. I agree that is a silliness that we could do without -- it was an unhappy compromise, and at the same time lthe literal C1 controls

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-08 Thread Oliver Meyer
Dear Daniel. Sorry, to have offended you. That never was my intentition. So, the short answer is "No, libxml is not going to support xml version 1.1". Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:09AM +0200, Oliver Meyer wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> in xml 1.1 you are allowed to have

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-07 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:26:39AM +0200, Tim Van Holder wrote: > Adam Dickmeiss wrote: > > Michael Day wrote: > >>> Our problem area has been ISO2709 which are converted to MARCXML (from > >>> network sources beyond our control). Right now problematic chars, say > >>> , are just thrown away. Ano

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-07 Thread Tim Van Holder
Adam Dickmeiss wrote: > Michael Day wrote: >>> Our problem area has been ISO2709 which are converted to MARCXML (from >>> network sources beyond our control). Right now problematic chars, say >>> , are just thrown away. Another option to avoid data loss would for >>> us to make _private_ semanti

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-06 Thread Adam Dickmeiss
Michael Day wrote: >> Our problem area has been ISO2709 which are converted to MARCXML (from >> network sources beyond our control). Right now problematic chars, say >> , are just thrown away. Another option to avoid data loss would for >> us to make _private_ semantics . > > Another option if

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-06 Thread Michael Day
> Our problem area has been ISO2709 which are converted to MARCXML (from > network sources beyond our control). Right now problematic chars, say > , are just thrown away. Another option to avoid data loss would for > us to make _private_ semantics . Another option if you want to tunnel what is

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-06 Thread Adam Dickmeiss
Daniel Veillard wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:09AM +0200, Oliver Meyer wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> in xml 1.1 you are allowed to have e.g. as an attribute value. My >> xmllint does not support that version. >> Are you planning to support xml 1.1? >> >> Kind Regards, >> Oliver >> >> foo

Re: [xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-06 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:09AM +0200, Oliver Meyer wrote: > Hi everybody, > > in xml 1.1 you are allowed to have e.g. as an attribute value. My > xmllint does not support that version. > Are you planning to support xml 1.1? > > Kind Regards, > Oliver > > foo.xml= > > > And what i

[xml] When will you support xml version 1.1?

2007-06-06 Thread Oliver Meyer
Hi everybody, in xml 1.1 you are allowed to have e.g. as an attribute value. My xmllint does not support that version. Are you planning to support xml 1.1? Kind Regards, Oliver foo.xml= xmllint foo.xml: C:\tmp>xmllint foo.xml foo.xml:1: parser warning : Unsupported version '1.1