Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin v. Löwis writes: > If you found that validation is a processing need, I strongly recommend > that you re-evaluate your processing needs (whether you use Python > or not). IMHO, validation is much over-rated and over-used. Strong words, which I

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

> What about changing the "XML" link on the Python homepage to point to a > Wiki page? I think this one would come close: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonXml Ok, I changed it so. Regards, Martin ___ XML-SIG maillist - XML-SIG@python.org http://

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

> That's what we did, and that package (the one the SIG recommended) has > been abandoned in favor of a newer one. That's not exactly true. It hasn't been abandoned in favor of lxml, or some other package. It has been abandoned in favor of the standard library (at least, that's why *I* abandoned

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Hi Martin, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> Mapping of Schema definitions to Python classes? >> >> A combination of lxml.objectify and schema validation is close enough >> to that, >> IMHO, but not a bit less powerful, as it's C-implemented and completely >> runtime configurable in Python code at basica

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I don't think Python is or should be the premier language to do XML > processing. I was just echoing language from the SIG's own home page. We don't need it to be the best language for XML processing, but it's the language we use for much of our administrative interface

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:08 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > I think validation is somewhat comparable to assertions that you put > into your > code. There's one case where we use schema-based validation in our products, and that's at organizational boundaries: Where we accept XML from another compa

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:08:00AM +0100, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Hi, > > Martin v. L?wis wrote: > > I don't think Python is or should be the premier language to do XML > > processing. > > I object! > > > > If you have an application that is entirely about XML > > processing, use Java. > > I hi

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

>> Mapping of Schema definitions to Python classes? > > A combination of lxml.objectify and schema validation is close enough to that, > IMHO, but not a bit less powerful, as it's C-implemented and completely > runtime configurable in Python code at basically any granularity. So can you also use

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:05:34 +0100 "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If you have an application that is entirely about XML > >> processing, use Java. [snip] > > Sure, if your processing needs are simple, the Python implementation > will be simple, and perhaps also reasonably perf

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Hi, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Implementation of specifications is another reason. XSLT2, XPath2, > XQuery? There definitely isn't a "standard" solution, but it's not true that there is nothing, either. http://www.w3.org/XML/Query/#implementations http://behnel.de/cgi-bin/weblog_basic/index.php?p=

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

>> If you have an application that is entirely about XML >> processing, use Java. > > I highly object! > > Performance is one reason: > http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2007/05/09/xml-parser-benchmarks-part-1.html > http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2007/05/16/xml-parser-benchmarks-part-2.html > http://effbot.org

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Hi, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I don't think Python is or should be the premier language to do XML > processing. I object! > If you have an application that is entirely about XML > processing, use Java. I highly object! Performance is one reason: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2007/05/09/xml-parser-b

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

> If I understand the responses I got to my original question correctly, > the SIG views the lxml package as the successor to PyXML, its former but > now abandoned flagship for making Python the premier language for XML > processing. Is that right? If so, I'm not sure that this WiKi page > m

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Kevin Cole wrote: > On Feb 12, 2008 12:47 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >> That may be so, but if validation is just an >> >> easy_install lxml >> >> and an updated import line away, I don't think that makes it that much >> less suited for the "premier language". > > An slightly off-topic rant: I'

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Stefan Behnel wrote: >> it's hard to imagine Python becoming the premier language for XML >> processing without support for document validation in the standard >> library distribution. >> > > That may be so, but if validation is just an > > easy_install lxml > > and an updated import line

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

> Stefan Behnel wrote: >> What about changing the "XML" link on the Python homepage to point to a >> Wiki page? I think this one would come close: >> >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonXml > > If I understand the responses I got to my original question correctly, > the SIG views the lxml package

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Stefan Behnel wrote: > What about changing the "XML" link on the Python homepage to point to a > Wiki page? I think this one would come close: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonXml > If I understand the responses I got to my original question correctly, the SIG views the lxml package as th

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Martin v. Löwin wrote: >> BTW, who's responsible for updating the XML-SIG page that the Python >> homepage links to behind it's prominent "XML" link? > > In short: anybody who volunteers. What about changing the "XML" link on the Python homepage to point to a Wiki page? I think this one would come

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

> BTW, who's responsible for updating the XML-SIG page that the Python homepage > links to behind it's prominent "XML" link? In short: anybody who volunteers. Regards, Martin ___ XML-SIG maillist - XML-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Do you have a version of PyXML that works with python version 2.5? If >> not when do you expect it to be available? > > PyXML is currently unmaintained. So likely, there won't be any file > releases if it anymore. BTW, who's responsible for updating the XML-SIG page tha

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

> Do you have a version of PyXML that works with python version 2.5? If > not when do you expect it to be available? PyXML is currently unmaintained. So likely, there won't be any file releases if it anymore. Regards, Martin ___ XML-SIG maillist - XML

Re: [XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

2007/8/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi > Do you have a version of PyXML that works with python version 2.5? If not > when do you expect it to be available? > > Are you on windows? I compiled a this version [1] for a colleague. I've never used it because I prefer amara [2], mor

[XML-SIG] PyXML for py 2.5

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