[admin] X.Org list configuration change

2011-12-02 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi all, To clean things up a bit, we will be moving the following lists from lists.freedesktop.org to lists.x.org on Tuesday afternoon European time: xorg@lists.freedesktop.org xorg-annou...@lists.freedesktop.org xorg-com...@lists.freedesktop.org x...@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Xcb] [admin] X.Org list configuration change

2011-12-02 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On 2 December 2011 18:34, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 06:19:44PM +, Daniel Stone wrote: Hi all, To clean things up a bit, we will be moving the following lists from lists.freedesktop.org to lists.x.org on Tuesday afternoon European time

[ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.2.2

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Stone
else. Distributions are strongly, strongly recommended to upgrade, including in stable series. Alan Coopersmith (1): Replace repeated checks for gcc with _X_ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF from xproto Alistair Leslie-Hughes (1): xkbcomp: Stop possible overflow in yyGetnumber. #31647 Daniel Stone

[ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.2.3

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Stone
. Distributions are strongly recommended to push 1.2.3 instead of 1.2.2, whose tarballs have been removed from the archive. Daniel Stone (3): Constify LookupKeysym input argument Interp: Allow explicit Any/NoSymbol mappings Bump to 1.2.3 git tag: xkbcomp-1.2.3 http

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.2.2

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 02:17:30PM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote: This is an semi-urgent bugfix release for the two commits of mine, which fix a particularly bad failure in the compat code. If you had a SymInterpret definition (i.e. to map a keysym to an action, as used for VT switch

[ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.2.2

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Stone
else. Distributions are strongly, strongly recommended to upgrade, including in stable series. Alan Coopersmith (1): Replace repeated checks for gcc with _X_ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF from xproto Alistair Leslie-Hughes (1): xkbcomp: Stop possible overflow in yyGetnumber. #31647 Daniel Stone

[ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.2.3

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Stone
. Distributions are strongly recommended to push 1.2.3 instead of 1.2.2, whose tarballs have been removed from the archive. Daniel Stone (3): Constify LookupKeysym input argument Interp: Allow explicit Any/NoSymbol mappings Bump to 1.2.3 git tag: xkbcomp-1.2.3 http

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xkbcomp 1.2.2

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 02:17:30PM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote: This is an semi-urgent bugfix release for the two commits of mine, which fix a particularly bad failure in the compat code. If you had a SymInterpret definition (i.e. to map a keysym to an action, as used for VT switch

Re: Qery on Xlib project idea on summer of code page

2011-06-14 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:22:43PM +0530, nijil yes wrote: I am interested in working on the idea mentioned on summer of code page on replacing CMS code inside libX11 with libXcm.I would be glad to get a few more details on the work involved and such things.If there is anyone already

Re: [Bug 34004] New Account Request

2011-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:19:09AM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 07:56:04AM +0100, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:02:58PM +, Daniel Stone wrote: Yes. Tollef's opinion was that quitting was a copout and that I should instead go fix

Re: [Bug 34004] New Account Request

2011-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:24:24AM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:17:50AM +, Daniel Stone wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:19:09AM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: All arguments were made, extensively, before. Except maybe for one: The claimed reason

Re: [Bug 34004] New Account Request

2011-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 03:02:56PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:47:25AM +, Daniel Stone wrote: If you actually wanted to find out, you could go ask someone, First the following question needs to be answered: who owns (not pw0wn, we found that out already

Re: [Bug 34004] New Account Request

2011-02-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:43:07PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 06:36:32AM -0800, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote: --- Comment #4 from Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org 2011-02-09 06:36:31 PST --- done Root access restored, i presume? Yes. Tollef's

Re: Respository vandalism by r...@...fd.o

2010-11-24 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, I've been mostly offline whilst moving, so have only read this through web archives. As mentioned on IRC earlier, it was my account used. My apologies: as ajax said, it's indefensible, and am not really sure what else to say. I've suspended my root accounts as well. That being said: On

[ANNOUNCE] libX11 1.3.6

2010-09-20 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, Just a small maintenance release for libX11; pending any catastrophic bugs, this will probably be the last release from the 1.3.x branch. The XStringToKeysym changes should provide a not-insignificant speedup for X server and application startup. Daniel Stone (6): XStringToKeysym

Re: Key continue repeating if setting global autorepeat off while the key was already repeating.

2010-05-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 08:27:47PM -0800, Octavio Alvarez wrote: If I turn global autorepeat off while a key is already being repeated, the key doesn't stop repeating. It continues on and on. At least according to XKB, I believe that's correct; almost all XKB actions are specified to not affect

Re: Yeelong and SiliconMotion driver: asking for developers

2010-03-16 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 05:19:40PM -0400, Daniel Clark wrote: 2010/3/16 Bridgman, John john.bridg...@amd.com: Ahh, that makes sense -- so the relicensing from X11 to GPLv2 already happened, and the proposed relicensing was going to be from GPLv2 to v3. Asking if the code can be

Re: Yeelong and SiliconMotion driver: asking for developers

2010-03-16 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 02:49:13PM -0400, Brett Smith wrote: When we started looking at software for the SiliconMotion hardware (as part of evaluating how free software-friendly a particular machine was), we found a modified driver from the SiliconMotion company that seemed to have some

Re: Keeping the board discussion going

2010-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 12:35:08AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Luc Verhaegen wrote: members@ is basically a dead list, except around elections. I personally am all for re-using it. Also, an archive of the ml would be handy too. There is an archive, it's just hard to find due to the way

Re: vesa driver reports many modes, but only allows a few

2010-03-04 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 07:52:02AM -0600, Pat Kane wrote: Ross Boylan r...@biostat.ucsf.edu wrote: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x in ?? () (gdb) where #0 0x in ?? () #1 0x0051a72a in DoConfigure ()

Re: Problems with X.org and incompatibilities with in-house software

2010-03-01 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi Richard, On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 05:48:50PM -0500, Richard Brown wrote: To our much dismay we have recently found after attempting to install new Linux boxes that these extensions no longer appear to be available. This has caused most of our internal applications to blow up and to be

Re: Upgrading from 6.8.2

2010-02-24 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:05:42AM -0500, paul rogers wrote: My system(s) is LFS based. I think it's time to upgrade. My 6.8.2 is brmonolithic, and I certainly see the advantage of not being required to brdownload the whole thing just to get some updated parts, particularly bras I'm on

Re: Board voting ends today, but...

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 05:27:24PM -0800, Stephane Marchesin wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 13:45, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote: If you feel this is unacceptable and are looking to assign blame, the mail archives back me up that the entire thing was entirely my idea

Re: Board voting ends today, but...

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi Egbert, On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 01:13:41AM +0100, Egbert Eich wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:18:47PM +, Daniel Stone wrote: I'm pretty uncomfortable with the suggestion here. No, wait, very uncomfortable. (Not to mention that if any misuse of funds _did_ go on here

Re: Board voting ends today, but...

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 05:33:05PM +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 18, 10 21:45:07 +, Daniel Stone wrote: As far as I can tell (and I've not looked hard, because I'd like to escape the office early), XDS 2007 cost $US10k for the venue, around $US24k for travel sponsorship

Re: Board voting ends today, but...

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 06:01:38PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:26:30AM -0800, Carl Worth wrote: Please, whenever you want more information from the board, please just ask. I can give you my personal assurance that there's no desire on the part of the board to

Re: Board voting ends today, but...

2010-02-19 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 07:28:19PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 05:29:14PM +, Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 06:01:38PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: I believe some things have been asked for already: * minutes or logs. Bart is collating his logs

Re: Board voting ends today, but...

2010-02-18 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:52:22PM +0100, Egbert Eich wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:45:07PM +, Daniel Stone wrote: As far as I can tell (and I've not looked hard, because I'd like to escape the office early), XDS 2007 cost $US10k for the venue, around $US24k for travel

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 01:05:14PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Chris Ball wrote: expo (the 2U machine) was there originally, and this serves the needs of *.x.org fairly well. The 3U machines were donated by Sun and were earmarked for backup, redundancy, sharing fd.o

Re: X11 still uses /dev/mem ?

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 05:54:18PM +0200, Nameer Yarkon wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Adam Jackson a...@nwnk.net wrote: most memory access goes through the PCI BAR resource files in sysfs, but i was expecting that if /dev/mem was abonded, then you will probably have to call mmap()

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-16 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, (Speaking as an ex-Board member.) On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 08:54:27AM +0100, ps wrote: As X.Org is the successor of the XConsortium, I expect there should be a roadmap of where X Window development is heading and how much money is needed to reach these goals and how these funds are

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-16 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 04:45:09PM +, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:07:32 +0100 Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote: On Feb 16, 10 07:26:35 -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Our outstanding obligations today are MIT hosting for this year ($3000) and travel expenses for FOSDEM 2010

Re: Dual-head config broke with update to 1.4.2

2010-02-16 Thread Daniel Stone
[I started a longer reply, but apathy took over.] On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:53:55AM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote: I just wonder what Xorg's intended endgame is? The direct equivalent of what MS Windows had for a decade or longer, with everything that made Unix/X11 stand out being removed?

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-16 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 06:11:38PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 05:01:28PM +, Daniel Stone wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 04:45:09PM +, Alan Cox wrote: Seems pretty extrodinary. Exactly what can't say bluehost provide at $3.95 a month that MIT can at $250

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-16 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:00:40PM +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 16, 10 09:20:44 -0800, Keith Packard wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:54:56 +0100, Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote: But something like $100 / month sounds like a reasonable upper limit for me, and you should

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-15 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:26:46PM -0600, David Nicol wrote: It seems that the X bylaws allow for outsider participation, Yeah, they do. perhaps to provide oversight to mitigate developer-driven coolitis (not as bad a malady as featuritis, but still suboptimal), and that has attracted me.

Re: keyboard LEDs don't work

2010-02-15 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:29:40PM +0300, Peter Vypov wrote: I have a problem with keyboard LEDs: they don't work under X Window System. They don't turn on when I press Caps Lock, Num Lock or Scroll Lock. But they do work under virtualizers like VMware or QEMU (If I press Num Lock, the

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-15 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0600, David Nicol wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote: (If people want to get paid for hacking X, just mention it and you'll have quite a few companies beating down your door ...) You must be exaggerating

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot more, but nothing we've done is hidden from our members, i.e. board members know basically as much as you, and that this is a result of lack of time/etc, rather than any desire to keep any information

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:42:33AM -0600, David Nicol wrote: A vote for David Nicol is a vote for transparency! Full transparency into exactly what all the board members know still wouldn't tell you much more than what you already know. Cheers, Daniel pgpDyxf8wm54o.pgp Description: PGP

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:56:08PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: I have no idea when such meetings are supposed to be held, how regular there are. No such information is available publically, or at least not available to my knowledge. #xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:17:16PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote: On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:31:32PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: The X.org Foundation exists to best represent the interests of the X.org Foundation members, by being the legal

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-10 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:14:58AM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: Disclaimer: All of this is off the top of my head. I could be and am probably wrong on some of the details. This does not represent an official statement on behalf of the Foundation, etc, etc.

Re: Remote X

2010-02-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 01:18:01AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: Is remote execution of X clients away from the X server still regarded as a design goal, or does everyone just develop for client applications that only run on or close to the X server machine? With a unicode text widget, every

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-31 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:04:41AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: One can make their own widget libraries based on Xlib, then write apps using the libraries. Nothing hard about that (hard is relative;) It's

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:13:23AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: This means abstracting everything with pointer indirections leading to slow Any performance problems you may have are not caused by excessive pointer dereferences. feature-bare toolkits. Which features are you missing from current

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:10:11PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: None of this really matters because i don't care if i'm the only one that uses this stuff. I'd prefer to be ignored as a troll because I have a better job than programming all day and just hack on it as a hobby for my own use. Would

Re: Re-mapping the middlemouse paste functionality

2010-01-30 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 06:19:48PM +, Ross Burton wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 10:58 -0500, Adrian Sud wrote: Any googling and browsing of FAQs finds ways to disable the 2nd mouse button entirely, or map the 2nd mouse button to another button (causing all other functions tied to the 2nd

Re: Keyboard buttons event-based or device based?

2010-01-28 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:22:56AM +0100, Crypto wrote: I am not sure if this is related to xorg, maybe it is related to KDE, Gnome etc. I often connect an external USB keyboard to my notebook for faster typing. In KDE etc. (i.e. GUI) applications it is often possible to re-assign

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-28 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:41:04PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really nontrivial running this month. You

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-28 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: Glynn Clements wrote: Russell Shaw wrote: Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything

Re: Intel driver problem

2010-01-05 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 10:09:47AM +0100, Dirk De Becker wrote: I am trying to use the intel driver (version 2.9.1) on a gentoo system with xorg version 1.6.3.901-r2. If I startx, I get the following output on screen (and X obviously does not start): Setting master expected keysym, got

Re: X11 XTEST Error when starting Xine

2010-01-04 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 10:54:00PM -0500, Jim Duda wrote: Thanks for the post Dan. I tried both of these, removing XKeysymDB and rebuilding libX11. Unfortunately, neither of these worked. I get the same errors. The version I downloaded was more recent that the version which comes with

Re: Visuals

2010-01-04 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:01:08PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: When i do xpyinfo, i get 29 visuals the same: [...] Why isn't there just one of each type of visual? If you look at the output of glxinfo, you'll see that each visual has different GL attributes. Cheers, Daniel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.7.99.2

2009-12-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:00:25AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:58:08AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: +if test $cross_compiling != yes; then This should be if ! test x$cross_compiling = xyes. Cheers, Daniel pgpIYxDa5F1Qp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: touchscreens in multiscreen setups

2009-12-18 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:35:16PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: I'd say tablets and touch screens should report raw device coordinates and let the X server transform them as appropriate. It'd be really cool if we could make all absolute devices report position in floating point using a

Re: radeonhd blank screens

2009-12-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:14:31PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009, tsuraan wrote: These drivers sound seriously unloved. Yes, for the rv610 based cards in particular. The guys have seemingly danced all the way around it like its a pile of smelly poo. Heck, Alex

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-12-02 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:25:08AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:22AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: If you don't want a session manager or you prefer a different desktop environment - you're on your own. Let me remind you that GNOME is not an

Re: [OT] e-mail license

2009-12-02 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:07:50PM +0100, Yann Droneaud wrote: Did you know you're writing to a public mailing list ? So the content of your mail is not going to be confidential and disclosure, distribution [and] copying is going to happen. In fact is already happened. This message is

Re: lolita underage, nn pre teen galleries, naked preteen, preteen underage, loli board

2009-11-27 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:21:28AM +0300, Charmaine Brugnoli wrote: [spam] So sorry about this. I've unsubscribed them now. Grr. pgpvcOZ3k9GK2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Edid quirk for Philips LCD LP154W01

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 06:04:58PM +0800, yakui.z...@intel.com wrote: Move the EDID quirk for Philips LCD LP154W01 as the panel reports the vertical size in cm. Err, I think it's safe to say that this was seen the first seven times it was posted ... Cheers, Daniel pgpQwltQFkN0K.pgp

Re: [PATCH] evdev: Support the Calibration string option.

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:52:13AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: I don't know how many features evtouch provides aside from dejittering and the right-click emulation (both of which would be perfectly appropriate for evdev btw). You don't think dejittering is more appropriate for the kernel?

Re: Keypressed/Keyreleased events not reaching my code

2009-11-17 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:28:44PM -0600, Scott Sibley wrote: Hello. I'm writing an LCD controller, and one feature I'd like is the ability to interact with an LCD via the keyboard. I have the following code, but only the FocusOut/FocusIn events are firing. Either there's a passive grab, or

Re: Install documentation

2009-11-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 01:01:13PM -0500, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Monday 09 November 2009 12:25:43 Jorge Hernandez wrote: Is there any documentation that describes how to install x.org on a Free BSD system? I downloaded all the source files but I don't know what to do with them.

Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari

2009-10-10 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 10:01:58PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: (xkbproto isn't yet, but I'm leaving that for Daniel to decide if the changes sitting in git are ready to go and should be included in 7.5 or wait until later.) All I'm seeing in master since 1.0.3 is a change from #defines to

Re: Finishing the X11R7.5 katamari

2009-10-03 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 09:13:57AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 October 2009, Mark Kettenis wrote: I still use xinit/startx to start X, and very much *do* consider it to be an essential part of X. +1000, Amen and hip hip hooray. I have never started X any other way, and

fd.o services outage, annarchy $HOME lost

2009-09-30 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi all, Cutting and pasting from my blog entry[0] because I'm lazy: As ajax quite elegantly summed up[1], due to a series of catastrophic power failures at PSU, where fd.o is hosted, we were down for a good chunk of yesterday. Despite the machines having redundant power supplies, being

Re: 1.6.4 brown-bag DGA fixes

2009-09-29 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:59:24AM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: The fix I proposed doesn't solve the case where DGA is initialized twice, once by the driver and once by the DiDGA layer. Here's a version which has the DiDGA code override the driver DGA initialization. You don't want to just

Re: 1.6.4 brown-bag DGA fixes

2009-09-29 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:41:42AM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: Excerpts from Daniel Stone's message of Tue Sep 29 11:23:33 -0700 2009: You don't want to just no-op DGAInit? And have the DiDGA layer call some other 'real' DGAInit function? Well, if the objective is to never have the driver

Re: getting all kbd events

2009-07-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:15:08AM +, Nokan Emiro wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Nokan Emiro wrote: How can I change the XkbSelectEvents's parameters to be messaged on all keypresses? I'm not an X programmer, but doesn't xev do this

Re: is it possible to publish Xming on Citrix?

2009-07-03 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:08:59PM +0530, Venkateswara_Chalamalasetti wrote: Recently i have started using Xming free software to connect to one Solaris machine. It works. But i have a question in my mind. Is it possible to install Xming on WTS and publish Xming on Citrix web page? So that

Re: XkbSetDetectableAutoRepeat broken

2009-06-05 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 03:53:30PM +0200, Pierre Willenbrock wrote: since some time, XkbSetDetectableAutoRepeat is broken. XkbSetDetectableAutoRepeat works by filtering in XkbFilterEvent all events that are equal to the previously stored XkbLastRepeatEvent(in AccessXKeyboardEvent). This is

Re: It's useful to have a working X server if a client holds a grab when it triggers a debugger breakpoint

2009-05-29 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:14:17AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:13:15PM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 01:17:15PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: VT switching only works as long as the grab is asynchronous, otherwise events are queued up

Re: It's useful to have a working X server if a client holds a grab when it triggers a debugger breakpoint

2009-05-26 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 01:17:15PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:56:58AM +1000, David Campbell wrote: By switching to a VT, did you mean pressing CTRL-ALT-number to switch to a virtual terminal? That doesn't work for me, due to the grab. Pressing those

Re: It's useful to have a working X server if a client holds a grab when it triggers a debugger breakpoint

2009-05-25 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:46:12AM +0200, Maarten Maathuis wrote: I personally wouldn't mind a kill all grabs button/key/whatever. Even if you can debug a grab issue, you don't always have the time or the right machine (debugging symbols and friends) to do it. Yeah, it will come back as an XKB

Re: How to make xorg prefer nvidia over nv driver in a xorg.conf less configuration?

2009-05-14 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:58:44AM +, Francesco Pretto wrote: I'm sorry, but this not a very useful answer. You are basically saying the driver loading priority of Xorg is hardcoded and if you want to change it, recompile Xserver. I've already read that discussions in the past: I DON'T

Re: Xorg support to import options for non-Input sections?

2009-05-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 03:24:27PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Kevin Stange at 12/05/09 18:23 did gyre and gimble: So you're saying this HAL method is widely (or

Re: Xorg support to import options for non-Input sections?

2009-05-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:55:05AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 03:24:27PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote

Re: Detecting the used keyboard driver

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:33:29AM +0200, Gregory Smirnov wrote: 2009/5/4 Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com Your program has always been broken then - X keycodes are different on different platforms and servers, and as kbd/evdev show, sometimes even different drivers on the same

Re: AllowEmptyInput and HAL

2009-04-28 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:01:25PM +0100, Phil Endecott wrote: Specifically, when X started I had no keyboard or mouse. After power-cycling [no other way to escape!] I found a message in the log saying that AllowEmptyInput was enabled and that my keyboard and mouse configuration was

Re: How to Grab Key Events

2009-04-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:20:59AM +0200, VARADHARAJAN RAVINDRANATH wrote: I am a newbie in Xorg. I have a requirement wherein I need to grab the key events in my X11 application even though it does not have focus. This application in turn will do some manipulation in the received key and

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 06:14:21AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Bill Crawford wrote: It makes perfect sense. He's saying that (f(A) ⊢ g(B)) ⊬ (¬f(A) ⊢ ¬g(B)), where A is release, f is latest, B is API and g is stable ;o) The point is not that it has to be the latest

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:16:49AM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: On 2009-04-07, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote: xmodmap should work fine these days: if it doesn't, file an actual bug ^^ on http

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:07:07PM +, tv wrote: It's so wonderful when essential features like saveunders are removed. Now you'll get hordes of people complaining and thinking your software is buggy because applications are constantly redrawing under it... when the assholes in power

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:54:06PM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:36:13PM +0200, Stephane Marchesin wrote: I agree with you. If you're too lazy and do not have enough dedication to create an account on our bugzilla to file a proper bug report, you're probably

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 05:52:12PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 05:34:48PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 04/08/2009 05:24 PM, Thomas Dickey wrote: If only the latest release is API-stable, by definition it's not stable. This cannot be deduced from that line.

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:27:37AM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: The only problem with core fonts is the blur-fascist elite not bothering to fix UTF-8 fontset support, so there you have some problems. I don't think I ever saw any patches. But don't mind me, the last person who wants good

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 12:01:42PM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: that need root access to modify. That or an ability to read documentation. (Nobody ever does anything new properly, just adds layers upon layers of indirection, complexity upon complexity. Latest example being the kernel-level

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:39:59PM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: On 2009-04-07, Corbin Simpson mostawesomed...@gmail.com wrote: Pollute my system with KDE or Gnome? Rather install Windows. Sounds like a plan. Enjoy your Cleartype. Plan executed and succesfully accomplished. Byebye Linux.

Re: clarification requested: apparent termination of xrx project due to deletion of lbx from xorg

2009-03-17 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:36:18PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: the first one says that LBX is deprecated. however, has any replacement for LBX been written _before_ deprecating it? has any replacement been considered? Yes -- SSH. the second one says xproxymngproto is no

[cwo...@cworth.org: 2009 Election results]

2009-03-07 Thread Daniel Stone
points, the next-highest three points, and so forth. The nominees elected by the Membership to serve a two-year term on the X.Org Foundation Board are as follows: Alan Coopersmith (112 points) Bart Massey (89 points) Daniel Stone (77 points) Donnie Berkholz (71 points

Re: how glx extension uses the software render

2009-03-06 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:52:44PM +0530, Mustafizur Rahaman wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html Hi, Please only send plain-text email to the list. Cheers, Daniel signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___

Re: correct location of evdev?

2009-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:48:08AM +0100, Marc Weber wrote: This last one isn't. It looks like some other output has been passed to args? I don't understand yet what is happening here (between args and exit code there should only be the expansion of $@.. But there is also an error

Re: [RFC] XI2 draft protocol specification (v 0.1)

2009-02-22 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, I was going to reply to the original, but Peter's reply says pretty much everything I wanted to say. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:29:42AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:28:23PM -0500, Jim Gettys wrote: Here are some substantive issues: 1) I wonder how we can

Re: XTrap removal

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:22:43AM -0800, milnser43...@yahoo.com wrote: What is the rationale behind removing the xtrap extension. [...] Some people (including some of my friends) have a problem where there's effectively no filter between their brain and their mouth, and they just say whatever

Re: Severe memory leaks make X.org unuseable

2009-02-19 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 06:50:38AM -0800, milnser43...@yahoo.com wrote: I dont think that backwards compatability code should be removed just because we dont dont think anyone uses it anymore, or because we can. As far as I am aware these extensions were not causing any problems and I cannot

Re: [PATCH 8/9] handle cea-ext data block and insert mode into mode list.

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:47:48PM -0500, Jim Gettys wrote: It would be good if the xorg-devel list appeared on the mail list list at: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/ This is a checkbox in mailman; of course, with mailman, it can often be a maze of little passages, all

Re: Xvesa black magic

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:32:57AM +0100, Rene Rebe wrote: On 12.02.2009, at 09:59, Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 12/02/2009 09:38, Rene Rebe a écrit : Even more annoying is that the kdrive xvesa was deleted from the xorg-server git repository some weeks ago!

Re: xmodmap: different keys have different keycode semantics?

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:58:52PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:51:46PM -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Thanks a lot. It seems that the use of xmodmap is actually deprecated, is it? Looking back at the previous mailing discussion, deprecated is probably the wrong

Re: xmodmap: different keys have different keycode semantics?

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 08:01:43PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Daniel Stone wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:58:52PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 01:51:46PM -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Thanks a lot. It seems that the use of xmodmap is actually

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