On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 01:59:15PM -0400, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
I know very well that CAB is the kill switch, but it just occurred to
me that it triggered by accident nevertheless. I was editing around
in a graphical editor, where word-based movement is done with Ctrl.
Certain commands require
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 01:52:53PM +0930, Peter Hutterer wrote:
driver kbd: hardcodes Ctrl + Alt + Backspace. (IMHO that's a bug anyway)
driver evdev: the XKB map decides what happens.
I don't know whether this is really related (I'm pretty sure I
experienced that with kbd driver as
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:19:43 +0200
Harald Braumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When zapping X is made impossible, users will find out about
ctrl-prnt-b by accident.
Sorry, I mean alt-prnt-b.
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Jason Spiro wrote:
What do you think? Should Xorg change this key sequence? Please vote
yes or no. You can add comments too. If you reply only to me by
private mail, I will eventually summarize your reply to the list.
Since I do testing on new drivers it would be inconvenient for me.
I
2008/9/23 Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Problem: Many[1] users have killed X by accident.[2]
Solution idea: Make it harder to kill X by accident. E.g. you could
change the key sequence users must press.
* Maybe require Control+Alt+Backspace then Control-Alt-Y.[3]
* Or require
Ben Gamari (FOSS) wrote:
My completely unprofessional opinion is that Jason brings up a really
good point here. Accidentally zapping Xorg can not only be extremely
frustrating, but it could be extremely confusing for a new user. This
being said, I also agree that any change that might be
Jason Spiro wrote:
Problem: Many[1] users have killed X by accident.[2]
Solution idea: Make it harder to kill X by accident. E.g. you could
change the key sequence users must press.
* Maybe require Control+Alt+Backspace then Control-Alt-Y.[3]
* Or require Control+K+X pressed
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 03:20 +, Jason Spiro wrote:
Tiago Vignatti vignatti at c3sl.ufpr.br wrote:
The DontZap option in xorg.conf isn't enough for you? `man 5 xorg.conf`
It would work fine for me. But it's not good enough for most users, since
most
Xorg users don't know how to edit
2008/9/23 Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In Linux, Ctrl-Alt-Del reboots unconditionally only in console mode. Only
expert users use console mode. When X is running, on all my Linux machines,
Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up a shutdown-or-reboot? dialog instead. The vast
majority of Linux users run
no
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I have never ever ever ever accidentally hit the zap key combo, and
neither has anyone of the 5 linux users in my office! The closet I have
come is playing doom 12 years ago, without a mouse, using ctrl for
strafe, alt for fire and delete for change weapons
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Problem: Many[1] users have killed X by accident.[2]
Solution idea: Make it harder to kill X by accident. E.g. you could
change the key sequence users must press.
* Maybe require Control+Alt+Backspace then Control-Alt-Y.[3]
* Or require Control+K+X pressed simultaneously.
What do you
Igor Mozolevsky igor at hybrid-lab.co.uk writes:
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is just the way to do it
OK. That's one no vote, duly noted. Thank you for your vote.
I will now respond to the rest of your comments.
just because users
incompetently press the combination, doesn't mean it's a bad one.
Jason Spiro escreveu:
Problem: Many[1] users have killed X by accident.[2]
Solution idea: Make it harder to kill X by accident. E.g. you could
change the key sequence users must press.
* Maybe require Control+Alt+Backspace then Control-Alt-Y.[3]
* Or require Control+K+X pressed
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Jason Spiro wrote:
Problem: Many[1] users have killed X by accident.[2]
Solution idea: Make it harder to kill X by accident. E.g. you could
change the key sequence users must press.
* Maybe require Control+Alt+Backspace then
2008/9/23 Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Igor Mozolevsky igor at hybrid-lab.co.uk writes:
just because users
incompetently press the combination, doesn't mean it's a bad one.
I respectfully disagree. Accidental zaps often cause data loss. Data loss is
always unacceptable and Xorg should
Igor Mozolevsky igor at hybrid-lab.co.uk wrote:
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Unfortunately, there's no cure for human
stupidity
There's no cure, but there are workarounds.
Doesn't CTRL+ALT+DELETE reboot the machine unconditionally?
Not usually. It used to reboot unconditionally way back. But, fifteen years
ago,
Corbin Simpson mostawesomedude at gmail.com writes:
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Seriously, no.
Your vote has been duly noted.
Zap once, learn forever. No different than anything else,
really;
I still believe that Xorg should make it harder to make the mistake of an
accidental zap.
ever heard of press Alt+F4 to
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Jason Spiro wrote:
Corbin Simpson mostawesomedude at gmail.com writes:
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Seriously, no.
Your vote has been duly noted.
Zap once, learn forever. No different than anything else,
really;
I still believe that Xorg should make it harder to
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:41:16AM +, Jason Spiro wrote:
Problem: Many[1] users have killed X by accident.[2]
Solution idea: Make it harder to kill X by accident. E.g. you could
change the key sequence users must press.
* Maybe require Control+Alt+Backspace then Control-Alt-Y.[3]
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 04:39:49AM +, Jason Spiro wrote:
Thanks for the info. 1. So I guess when using evdev, a way to implement my
Ctrl+Alt+Bksp then Ctrl+Alt+Y idea would be this?: Ctrl+Alt+Bksp should latch
some new modifier called ctrl_alt_bksp_was_pressed, and Ctrl+Alt+Y should zap
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