Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-12-02 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:22AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: If you don't want a session manager or you prefer a different desktop environment - you're on your own. Let me remind you that GNOME is not an operating system. It is just a frontend. It is nice if it provides a nice shiny

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-12-02 Thread Corbin Simpson
You're right. We need a Generic Userspace Configuration Kit, which could talk to the Session Hotplug Infrastucture Posting from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C. On Dec 2, 2009 5:09 AM, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:22AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: If you

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-12-02 Thread Corbin Simpson
And thus marks the last time I attempt to be sassy on my Droid. But as I was saying, the Generic Userspace Configuration Kit. If we're going to add a Session Hotplug Infrastructure Tasklet, which is desktop-agnostic, in order to configure the X server across multiple platforms, you're going to

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-12-02 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:25:08AM +0100, olafbuddenha...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:22AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: If you don't want a session manager or you prefer a different desktop environment - you're on your own. Let me remind you that GNOME is not an

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:34:38AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:19:52 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: That might be the very thing! There is even a fedora package for it. I'm off to crank it up and

xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
I currently have my new fedora 12 system with no xorg.conf and a script that runs when I login to execute xinput commands to setup my trackball for draglock. This scheme falls apart when I switch my KVM switch to another system. The mouse is unplugged and the xinput settings are lost. The

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 07:14:16 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: I see that I get dbus system messages when I plug or unplug a mouse or keyboard. Is the grand plan to have a per user daemon listening for these and re-applying xinput settings when they show up? Does this daemon exist already and I

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Luciano Montanaro
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 07:14:16 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: I see that I get dbus system messages when I plug or unplug a mouse or keyboard. Is the grand plan to have a per user daemon listening for these and

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:33:12 +0100 Julien Cristau wrote: AFAIK that daemon exists and is called gnome-settings-daemon. It is running, but I have no idea how to induce it to apply my draglock settings when the trackball is hot plugged. There is a gnome-mouse-properties tool which allows you to

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 08:20:35AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:33:12 +0100 Julien Cristau wrote: AFAIK that daemon exists and is called gnome-settings-daemon. It is running, but I have no idea how to induce it to apply my draglock settings when the trackball is hot

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:46:33 +0100 Tomasz Torcz wrote: And http://live.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings That might be the very thing! There is even a fedora package for it. I'm off to crank it up and see if I can get it to work they way I want. Thanks!

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:19:52 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: That might be the very thing! There is even a fedora package for it. I'm off to crank it up and see if I can get it to work they way I want. Thanks! Unfortunately, just like gnome-mouse-properties, there is nothing in this tool that will

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:34:38AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:19:52 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: That might be the very thing! There is even a fedora package for it. I'm off to crank it up and see if I can get it to work they way I want. Thanks! Unfortunately, just

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Timothy S. Nelson
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:34:38AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:19:52 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: That might be the very thing! There is even a fedora package for it. I'm off to crank it up and see if I can get it to work they way

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:55:22 +1000 Peter Hutterer wrote: I can tell you it's (technically) quite trivial to add new config options. Not when you look at GTK code and see nothing but unintelligible gibberish and macro calls :-). Actually, the dead simplest hack (which I may decide to do) would

Re: xinput: Do I want xorg.conf? Do I want hal? Do I want udev?

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:16:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Actually, the dead simplest hack (which I may decide to do) would be a shell script that reads the output from dbus-monitor and switches on the messages it prints to invoke xinput commands :-). Well, I went and did it, and the horrifying