Re: Colour cycling / Dell monitor service menu (was: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors)

2020-10-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 October 2020 23:50:42 Adam Nielsen wrote: > > It turns out that the color cycling screen was that old 17" 4x3 Dell > > lcd monitors response to the synch drop that shuts most modern > > monitors off. > > Someone has probably enabled burnin test mode on this monitor. The > method to

Re: Colour cycling / Dell monitor service menu (was: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors)

2020-10-05 Thread Adam Nielsen
> It turns out that the color cycling screen was that old 17" 4x3 Dell lcd > monitors response to the synch drop that shuts most modern monitors off. Someone has probably enabled burnin test mode on this monitor. The method to switch it on and off is pretty much the same on all Dell monitors.

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 October 2020 15:10:03 Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 10/3/20 1:08 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 02 October 2020 16:28:45 Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> Fortunately, there's already an existing script which knows about > >> the most common screensaver implementations and how to

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 10/3/20 1:08 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 02 October 2020 16:28:45 Alan Coopersmith wrote: Fortunately, there's already an existing script which knows about the most common screensaver implementations and how to suspend them: https://linux.die.net/man/1/xdg-screensaver

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-04 Thread Adam Nielsen
> > This is quite true, and if it can't be fixed, I will be forced to > > install a smash it switch that interrupts machine power. But I've > > some pretty high cap supplies that can keep it moving for several > > seconds after the switch has been fisted. A software e-stop OTOH can > > stop it

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 23:11:55 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 02 October 2020 19:55:53 Aaron Plattner wrote: > > > On 10/2/20 1:17 PM, Dan Arena wrote: > > > Gene, > > > > > > Following up more about xfce4, you should be able to go into their > > > Settings Manager and you can turn off

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 October 2020 05:25:50 Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> which suggests there are several ways to disable it, including one > >> where you can simulate user activity. > >> > >> This was just a quick look, it would probably be best to talk to >

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: which suggests there are several ways to disable it, including one where you can simulate user activity. This was just a quick look, it would probably be best to talk to light-locker developers. best Vladimir Dergachev And where might I find those

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings x-people; The LinuxCNC people have just brought it up from Debian wheezy to buster for a base install. But the security paranoia is going to get someone maimed or killed. Someone has decreed that the screen blanker must be subject to a new

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Steve Holmes
On 03/10/2020 09:03, Gene Heskett wrote: FWIW, I have tried mightily, to lengthen the intervals from 10 minutes on this stretch install running TDE. But something resets it to 10 minutes before the 10 minutes is up. So xset is neutered and worthless. I don't know a lot about X but I have had

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 October 2020 04:17:53 Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 October 2020 00:39:27 Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > >> On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings x-people; > >>> > >>> The LinuxCNC people have just brought it

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 October 2020 00:39:27 Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings x-people; The LinuxCNC people have just brought it up from Debian wheezy to buster for a base install. But the security paranoia is

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 October 2020 16:28:45 Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 10/2/20 12:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have now been 3 days looking for a way to disable this blanker, > > trying several methods by way of xset, only to find 15 minutes later > > that its been undone and the blanker kicks in

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 October 2020 00:39:27 Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings x-people; > > > > The LinuxCNC people have just brought it up from Debian wheezy to > > buster for a base install. > > > > But the security paranoia is going to get someone

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-03 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 10/2/20 12:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have now been 3 days looking for a way to disable this blanker, trying several methods by way of xset, only to find 15 minutes later that its been undone and the blanker kicks in regardless. xset only controls the screen blanking & power management

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 October 2020 19:55:53 Aaron Plattner wrote: > On 10/2/20 1:17 PM, Dan Arena wrote: > > Gene, > > > > Following up more about xfce4, you should be able to go into their > > Settings Manager and you can turn off the Screensaver and uncheck > > Power Management under the Advanced tab.

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Aaron Plattner
On 10/2/20 1:17 PM, Dan Arena wrote: Gene, Following up more about xfce4, you should be able to go into their Settings Manager and you can turn off the Screensaver and uncheck Power Management under the Advanced tab. You will still want to add the lines I mentioned before into

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 15:18:42 -0400 Gene Heskett said: I think your gripe is with xfce here. Perhaps with other DE's/WM's too - ymmv, but they should all provide some option to not lock or blank. I know enlightenment allows you to completely disable screen blanking or dimming, separately

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 October 2020 15:54:30 Dan Arena wrote: > Good afternoon Gene, > > I am not sure about xfce, I suspect they do have settings in their GUI > settings manager to adjust what you want, but seeing as this is the > xorg mailing list I will tell you how I do it when running just X with > a

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Arena
Gene, Following up more about xfce4, you should be able to go into their Settings Manager and you can turn off the Screensaver and uncheck Power Management under the Advanced tab. You will still want to add the lines I mentioned before into /etc/X11/xorg.conf to prevent the screen from going

Re: Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Arena
Good afternoon Gene, I am not sure about xfce, I suspect they do have settings in their GUI settings manager to adjust what you want, but seeing as this is the xorg mailing list I will tell you how I do it when running just X with a simple window manager. This is probably what you want. I put

Feature request, but must be universallly accepted by ALL blanker authors

2020-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings x-people; The LinuxCNC people have just brought it up from Debian wheezy to buster for a base install. But the security paranoia is going to get someone maimed or killed. Someone has decreed that the screen blanker must be subject to a new login before anything can be done about a