Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-11-11 Thread Alan Corey
Well, OK I can change that. I mostly meant the free Motif site vs the paid version if there still is one. The mainstay of my reference material is Oreily's vol6a.pdf and vol6b.pdf. Motif version 1.2 and X11R5. My vol6b is dated 2001. In an age where it's impossible to have an up to date

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-11-11 Thread Marc Balmer
As you call the site the „retro Motif site“ I will not join it. We use Motif in up-to-date production code. For us, Motif is a thing of the present, not of the past. > Am 11.11.2017 um 18:05 schrieb Alan Corey : > > OK, I created http://motif.1apps.com/index.html about

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-11-11 Thread Alan Corey
OK, I created http://motif.1apps.com/index.html about an hour ago. I need to contact 1apps support to find out how to enable phpBB. It doesn't work (anymore) the way they describe in their FAQ at https://www.secureserver.net/help/article/16062?ci=1827_id=417233 Old story, the documentation

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-11-11 Thread Alan Corey
I have to admit I'd favor a modern forum to a mailing list. A couple months ago somebody on another list told me I wasn't quoting properly, well, I'm using Gmail through the web interface. It apparently doesn't know how to do that. And since Motif is GUI it would be handy to be able to upload

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-11-11 Thread walter harms
Am 11.11.2017 09:58, schrieb Marc Balmer: > Alan, > > I am a bit late in this thread, but I wanted to let you know that I still use > Motif in C applications today. It is very solid indeed, and as we do > touchscreen interfaces that cover the whole screen, not windowed desktop >

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-11-11 Thread Marc Balmer
Alan, I am a bit late in this thread, but I wanted to let you know that I still use Motif in C applications today. It is very solid indeed, and as we do touchscreen interfaces that cover the whole screen, not windowed desktop applications, Motif is a good fit. I am sure a mailing list could

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-26 Thread Alan Corey
at > xorg-ow...@lists.x.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of xorg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: foru

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-25 Thread walter harms
Am 25.10.2017 01:20, schrieb Alan Corey: > Yes, I've played in Glade a little, wasn't crazy about it. And GTK3 > looks awful, just the amount of text for a hello world program. > > I wanted to use Motif but support for it is vanishing it seems. > Athena, I hate the scrollbars. What I want to

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-25 Thread Henrik Pauli
GTK most certainly has a blank widget, just like all the other toolkits.  Don't forget, it started as the GIMP Toolkit, and that required a lot of custom widgets. Look at https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.12/GtkDrawingArea.html On 25/10/17 01:20, Alan Corey wrote: Yes, I've played in Glade

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-24 Thread Alan Corey
Yes, I've played in Glade a little, wasn't crazy about it. And GTK3 looks awful, just the amount of text for a hello world program. I wanted to use Motif but support for it is vanishing it seems. Athena, I hate the scrollbars. What I want to work at is an SDR (Software Defined Radio) program so

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-24 Thread Keith Packard
Alan Corey writes: > Maybe Java Swing then it's portable. I was enjoying the retro aspect > though. I've been using Swing for a couple of years now for GUI application development. It definitely feels 'retro' in a lot of ways -- Java is well on its way to being the

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-24 Thread Hi-Angel
I am a bit confused if you're talking of modern toolkits, or older ones, or in general. If in general, than this is untrue — QtCreator allows you to design GUI pretty much like Borland Delphi or Visual Studio. For GTK alike thing is Glade — it's not so good as "design" tab in QtCreator by virtue

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-24 Thread Alan Corey
Hmm, thank you but http://motif.ics.com/forum is now read-only. As is http://www.motifdeveloper.com/. I wanted to use C, not Lua. Maybe I'll have to bite the bullet and learn QT. I have this theory that part of the reason there's so little modern software for Unix in general is because there

Re: forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-24 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:45:27PM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: > I like playing around with the old stuff, because to me it seems > simpler and more efficient than GTK3 or QT. When it works. I'm still > trying to wrap my brain around mapping, managing, realizing widgets in > the right order. > > I

forum for Motif, XLib, etc. programming enthusiasts?

2017-10-24 Thread Alan Corey
I like playing around with the old stuff, because to me it seems simpler and more efficient than GTK3 or QT. When it works. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around mapping, managing, realizing widgets in the right order. I started out, put a notebook into a window, then a rowcol onto a page of