Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 14:43:55 -0500 "Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I"said: for now use -ac when you run Xorg by hand. Xord -ac :0 or whatever. > > after try the command below, i get the following error : > > xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 > > > as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without > success :( > > > On 7/31/2017 6:35 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:21:08 -0500 "Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I" > > said: > > > >> Hi Adam : > >> > >> > >> with '-retro' option now i can a gray background and the cursor, but i > >> am not able to do anything else, could you point me in how to do in > >> order to run some X clients against my X server please ? > > switch to another VT (ctl+alt+f2 or whatever) then log in, and > > > > export DISPLAY=:0 > > xterm > > > > i am assuming the xserver is coming up as the default :0 one. also assuming > > you have xterm installed. > > > >> On 7/31/2017 12:43 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 12:15 -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: > Hi Adam : > > there is the full log > >>> This log appears to show a successful startup. You say you only see a > >>> blank screen, but a black background with no cursor is in fact the > >>> default. If you're simply trying to test whether X works, the '-retro' > >>> command line option will paint the old root weave and X cursor. But > >>> otherwise X doesn't draw anything on its own, and you will need to > >>> actually run some X clients against your X server if you want to see > >>> anything. > >>> > >>> - ajax > >> ___ > >> xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > >> Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > >> Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > >> Your subscription address: %(user_address)s > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:46:30 -0500 "Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I"said: > Thanks, in fact i dont know to much about xorg and your help here > always is welcome :) > > after run it the both commands with the same user i am now able to see > in a little white box the terminal with xterm, but now the big question > is how can i display the windows, wallpapers and everything else like > xorg does by default ? xorg does not display these by default. xorg does NOTHING by default. all of this stuff is done by your login session apps like the window manager and so on. you've gotten past your issue. the xserver works. it worked before (just was black). xorg, its rendering, drivers, input work. you have a terminal. you can type in it. you want to start a whole x SESSION. that's what things like startx, xdm, gdm, kdm, slim, lightdm, etc. etc. etc. do - they do all of this and go launch everything (and in the case of all by startx also handle logging in a specific user and authenticating them if needed). this is what all those desktops - enlightenment, gnome, kde, xfce do. they provide all the thing you CALL an xorg desktop. each is its own project. you want to run one of those in your login session. as above - these tools generally would do that for you. they may use your ~/.xsession script to decide what to do or ~/.xinitrc or provide a gui to select a session. you would need something installed. you could install more basic window manages with far less stuff like twm. fvwm, etc. etc. too... but you will want something else than just xorg. xorg is basically a driver with an ipc/network front end that apps talk to to do the rest. > On 8/2/2017 7:41 AM, Thomas Lübking wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I > > wrote: > >> > >> after try the command below, i get the following error : > >> > >> xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 > >> > >> > >> as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without > >> success :( > > > > No offense, but you didn't happen to switch back to the VT from where > > you launched X11 and interrupted that process in order to enter the > > xterm command, did you? > > IOW: Is the X11 server still running on another VT when you tried this? > > ps aux | grep Xorg > > > > Otherwise: Did you run both commands as the same user? > > > > The number behind the colon btw. does not refer to the VT. > > > > Cheers, > > Thomas > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Is there any window manager like fvwm, openbox, lxde, kde, gnome? What you do next depends on what you're running because each OS has its own package manager, its own way of fetching and installing things. Apt-get install works for Debian, Rasbian, maybe Ubuntu. Some have Yum, there's about nothing in common. If you have it (Debian/Raspbian/Ubuntu) doing: dpkg-query -l > somefile.txt in an xterm window will get you a list of what's installed. It's pkg_info under OpenBSD. Sounds like X is working but there's not much else. On 8/2/17, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto Iwrote: > Hi Alan, > > definitely this is not a normal installation, because all the drivers > goto /opt/X11R7 in a isolate environment. > > after type startx i got a black desktop, but i am able to open a > terminal, to create folders and navigate by the system through the > folders, but that i want to do is to have the same environment like Xorg > does > > > On 8/2/2017 4:21 PM, Alan Corey wrote: >> Wow, sounds like not much is installed, like this wasn't a normal >> installation. What happens if you type startx to start x? It should >> run xinit after a few steps. You may not even have a window manager. >> Sounds like when I tried getting X running on Raspbian Jessie Lite. >> >> On 8/2/17, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I >> wrote: >>> Thanks, in fact i dont know to much about xorg and your help here >>> always is welcome :) >>> >>> after run it the both commands with the same user i am now able to see >>> in a little white box the terminal with xterm, but now the big question >>> is how can i display the windows, wallpapers and everything else like >>> xorg does by default ? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/2/2017 7:41 AM, Thomas Lübking wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: > after try the command below, i get the following error : > > xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 > > > as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without > success :( No offense, but you didn't happen to switch back to the VT from where you launched X11 and interrupted that process in order to enter the xterm command, did you? IOW: Is the X11 server still running on another VT when you tried this? ps aux | grep Xorg Otherwise: Did you run both commands as the same user? The number behind the colon btw. does not refer to the VT. Cheers, Thomas >>> >> > > -- - No, I won't call it "climate change", do you have a "reality problem"? - AB1JX Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Hi Alan, definitely this is not a normal installation, because all the drivers goto /opt/X11R7 in a isolate environment. after type startx i got a black desktop, but i am able to open a terminal, to create folders and navigate by the system through the folders, but that i want to do is to have the same environment like Xorg does On 8/2/2017 4:21 PM, Alan Corey wrote: Wow, sounds like not much is installed, like this wasn't a normal installation. What happens if you type startx to start x? It should run xinit after a few steps. You may not even have a window manager. Sounds like when I tried getting X running on Raspbian Jessie Lite. On 8/2/17, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto Iwrote: Thanks, in fact i dont know to much about xorg and your help here always is welcome :) after run it the both commands with the same user i am now able to see in a little white box the terminal with xterm, but now the big question is how can i display the windows, wallpapers and everything else like xorg does by default ? On 8/2/2017 7:41 AM, Thomas Lübking wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: after try the command below, i get the following error : xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without success :( No offense, but you didn't happen to switch back to the VT from where you launched X11 and interrupted that process in order to enter the xterm command, did you? IOW: Is the X11 server still running on another VT when you tried this? ps aux | grep Xorg Otherwise: Did you run both commands as the same user? The number behind the colon btw. does not refer to the VT. Cheers, Thomas ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Wow, sounds like not much is installed, like this wasn't a normal installation. What happens if you type startx to start x? It should run xinit after a few steps. You may not even have a window manager. Sounds like when I tried getting X running on Raspbian Jessie Lite. On 8/2/17, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto Iwrote: > Thanks, in fact i dont know to much about xorg and your help here > always is welcome :) > > after run it the both commands with the same user i am now able to see > in a little white box the terminal with xterm, but now the big question > is how can i display the windows, wallpapers and everything else like > xorg does by default ? > > > > On 8/2/2017 7:41 AM, Thomas Lübking wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I >> wrote: >>> >>> after try the command below, i get the following error : >>> >>> xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 >>> >>> >>> as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without >>> success :( >> >> No offense, but you didn't happen to switch back to the VT from where >> you launched X11 and interrupted that process in order to enter the >> xterm command, did you? >> IOW: Is the X11 server still running on another VT when you tried this? >> ps aux | grep Xorg >> >> Otherwise: Did you run both commands as the same user? >> >> The number behind the colon btw. does not refer to the VT. >> >> Cheers, >> Thomas > > -- - No, I won't call it "climate change", do you have a "reality problem"? - AB1JX Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Basicly you need a .xinitrc that starts what you want. normally you have a programm called xinit that does everything. So far i understand you have a restricted environment but a working xterm. xterm is good, now you can try to start a windowmanager like "twm" in xterm. That will enable you to move to window around. The next step is to create you own .xinitrc and run it. See "man xinit" how to continue. re, wh Am 02.08.2017 17:46, schrieb Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I: > Thanks, in fact i dont know to much about xorg and your help here > always is welcome :) > > after run it the both commands with the same user i am now able to see > in a little white box the terminal with xterm, but now the big question > is how can i display the windows, wallpapers and everything else like > xorg does by default ? > > > > On 8/2/2017 7:41 AM, Thomas Lübking wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I >> wrote: >>> >>> after try the command below, i get the following error : >>> >>> xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 >>> >>> >>> as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without >>> success :( >> >> No offense, but you didn't happen to switch back to the VT from where >> you launched X11 and interrupted that process in order to enter the >> xterm command, did you? >> IOW: Is the X11 server still running on another VT when you tried this? >> ps aux | grep Xorg >> >> Otherwise: Did you run both commands as the same user? >> >> The number behind the colon btw. does not refer to the VT. >> >> Cheers, >> Thomas > > ___ > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Thanks, in fact i dont know to much about xorg and your help here always is welcome :) after run it the both commands with the same user i am now able to see in a little white box the terminal with xterm, but now the big question is how can i display the windows, wallpapers and everything else like xorg does by default ? On 8/2/2017 7:41 AM, Thomas Lübking wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:43:55PM -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: after try the command below, i get the following error : xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without success :( No offense, but you didn't happen to switch back to the VT from where you launched X11 and interrupted that process in order to enter the xterm command, did you? IOW: Is the X11 server still running on another VT when you tried this? ps aux | grep Xorg Otherwise: Did you run both commands as the same user? The number behind the colon btw. does not refer to the VT. Cheers, Thomas ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
after try the command below, i get the following error : xterm: Xt error: Cant open display: :0 as a comment, i've tried as well with "export DISPLAY=:[0-6]" without success :( On 7/31/2017 6:35 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:21:08 -0500 "Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I"said: Hi Adam : with '-retro' option now i can a gray background and the cursor, but i am not able to do anything else, could you point me in how to do in order to run some X clients against my X server please ? switch to another VT (ctl+alt+f2 or whatever) then log in, and export DISPLAY=:0 xterm i am assuming the xserver is coming up as the default :0 one. also assuming you have xterm installed. On 7/31/2017 12:43 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 12:15 -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: Hi Adam : there is the full log This log appears to show a successful startup. You say you only see a blank screen, but a black background with no cursor is in fact the default. If you're simply trying to test whether X works, the '-retro' command line option will paint the old root weave and X cursor. But otherwise X doesn't draw anything on its own, and you will need to actually run some X clients against your X server if you want to see anything. - ajax ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:21:08 -0500 "Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I"said: > Hi Adam : > > > with '-retro' option now i can a gray background and the cursor, but i > am not able to do anything else, could you point me in how to do in > order to run some X clients against my X server please ? switch to another VT (ctl+alt+f2 or whatever) then log in, and export DISPLAY=:0 xterm i am assuming the xserver is coming up as the default :0 one. also assuming you have xterm installed. > On 7/31/2017 12:43 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 12:15 -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: > >> Hi Adam : > >> > >> there is the full log > > This log appears to show a successful startup. You say you only see a > > blank screen, but a black background with no cursor is in fact the > > default. If you're simply trying to test whether X works, the '-retro' > > command line option will paint the old root weave and X cursor. But > > otherwise X doesn't draw anything on its own, and you will need to > > actually run some X clients against your X server if you want to see > > anything. > > > > - ajax > > ___ > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Hi Adam : with '-retro' option now i can a gray background and the cursor, but i am not able to do anything else, could you point me in how to do in order to run some X clients against my X server please ? On 7/31/2017 12:43 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 12:15 -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: Hi Adam : there is the full log This log appears to show a successful startup. You say you only see a blank screen, but a black background with no cursor is in fact the default. If you're simply trying to test whether X works, the '-retro' command line option will paint the old root weave and X cursor. But otherwise X doesn't draw anything on its own, and you will need to actually run some X clients against your X server if you want to see anything. - ajax ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 12:15 -0500, Perez Rodriguez, Humberto I wrote: > Hi Adam : > > there is the full log This log appears to show a successful startup. You say you only see a blank screen, but a black background with no cursor is in fact the default. If you're simply trying to test whether X works, the '-retro' command line option will paint the old root weave and X cursor. But otherwise X doesn't draw anything on its own, and you will need to actually run some X clients against your X server if you want to see anything. - ajax ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
Hi Adam : there is the full log InitConnectionLimits: MaxClients = 2048 [93.726] This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions. [93.729] X.Org X Server 1.19.99.1 Release Date: 2016-11-18 [93.734] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [93.736] Build Operating System: Linux 4.8.0-58-generic x86_64 [93.738] Current Operating System: Linux gfx-desktop 4.8.0-59-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 29 19:38:34 UTC 2017 x86_64 [93.738] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-59-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=2a8388ef-fcb0-4ae0-964a-bd124748729c ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 [93.742] Build Date: 27 July 2017 04:38:00PM [93.744] [93.746] Current version of pixman: 0.35.1 [93.750] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [93.750] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [93.758] (==) Log file: "/home/gfx/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jul 31 07:13:19 2017 [93.768] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" [93.769] (==) Using system config directory "/opt/X11R7/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [93.824] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [93.824] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [93.824] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [93.824] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [93.824] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [93.824] (==) Automatically adding devices [93.824] (==) Automatically enabling devices [93.824] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [93.824] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f [93.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" does not exist. [93.824] Entry deleted from font path. [93.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist. [93.824] Entry deleted from font path. [93.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist. [93.824] Entry deleted from font path. [93.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist. [93.824] Entry deleted from font path. [93.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist. [93.824] Entry deleted from font path. [93.824] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist. [93.824] Entry deleted from font path. [93.824] (==) FontPath set to: [93.824] (**) ModulePath set to "/opt/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules" [93.824] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [93.824] (II) Loader magic: 0x55a57637c020 [93.824] (II) Module ABI versions: [93.824] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [93.824] X.Org Video Driver: 24.0 [93.824] X.Org XInput driver : 24.1 [93.824] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 [93.826] (--) using VT number 2 [93.826] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration [93.827] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) [93.969] (--) PCI:*(0@0:2:0) 8086:5a85:8086:2067 rev 11, Mem @ 0x9000/16777216, 0x8000/268435456, I/O @ 0xf000/64, BIOS @ 0x/131072 [93.971] ACPI: OSPMOpen called [93.973] ACPI: Opening device [93.973] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [93.973] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [93.976] LoaderOpen(/opt/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so) [93.976] (II) Loading /opt/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [93.978] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [93.978] compiled for 1.19.99.1, module version = 1.0.0 [93.978] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0 [93.978] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0 [93.978] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 1 [93.978] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2 [93.978] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 3 [93.978] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout [93.978] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [93.980] LoaderOpen(/opt/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so) [93.980] (II) Loading /opt/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [93.980] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [93.980] compiled for 1.19.99.1, module version = 2.99.917 [93.980]
Re: help with Xorg (Adam Jackson)
> It almost certainly is not the issue. Please just provide the full X > log instead of grepping randomly. > Perfectly true, the (WW) in there means it's just a warning. Look for (EE) which is error. There's a key in there somewhere. But post the whole log. ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s