Re: Poll: Should Xorg change from using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to something harder for users to press by accident?

2008-09-22 Thread Tiago Vignatti
simultaneously. The DontZap option in xorg.conf isn't enough for you? `man 5 xorg.conf` Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http

Re: Bus types other than PCI not yet isolable

2008-09-29 Thread Tiago Vignatti
secondary cards on server. Sigh. I'll try to adventure on this issue soon -- after my other pending work [0]. Cheers, [0] server's input threadification. -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg

[PATCH 0/4] X server's input thread (resending)

2008-10-01 Thread Tiago Vignatti
|8 + os/connection.c| 55 +++- os/inputthread.c | 280 + 11 files changed, 466 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) Thanks, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre

[PATCH 1/4] The input thread core file implementation

2008-10-01 Thread Tiago Vignatti
-- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br From 856d2e3906a9a3f1ea55249f43e1ea1310f22d2d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tiago Vignatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:13:26 -0300 Subject: [PATCH] The input-thread core file implementation

[PATCH 2/4] X event queue mutex

2008-10-01 Thread Tiago Vignatti
-- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br From 6e0692f6a5757b6d838d857bdb68596a5208c6e2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tiago Vignatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:15:15 -0300 Subject: [PATCH] X event queue mutex. A mutex is needed

Re: Xorg process takes too much time cpu

2008-10-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
. Some can help me? Doctor can you help me? --- How can someone prescribe a receipt without know the symptoms of the system? Or in other words: send the log file and try to be precisely when doing questions :) -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre

Re: [PATCH 2/4] X event queue mutex

2008-10-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
-related stuff to the kernel (inside drm, etc) and forget the input thread for all eternity. So yeah, I have to think a little more about this all. I think I still have a breath to start adventure again in kernel side. Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software

Re: xserver: Branch 'master' - 2 commits

2008-10-15 Thread Tiago Vignatti
) SYMFUNC(xf86InterceptSignals) -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

Re: xserver: Branch 'master' - 2 commits

2008-10-15 Thread Tiago Vignatti
the proprietary driver would not be illegal? -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

Re: xorg fails to start when using correct busids in device sections, logs included

2008-10-21 Thread Tiago Vignatti
/039020.html -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

Re: xorg fails to start when using correct busids in device sections, logs included

2008-10-22 Thread Tiago Vignatti
now. As always our lack of man power :( -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

Re: [PATCH 2/4] X event queue mutex

2008-11-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
event handler. Signed-off-by: Peter Hutterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by Tiago Vignatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's fine for me. Applied and tested here. Thanks, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br

Re: [PATCH 2/4] X event queue mutex

2008-11-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
, making the first hunk not utilized. Thanks, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

Re: [PATCH 2/4] X event queue mutex

2008-11-07 Thread Tiago Vignatti
: this problem of the event queue being processed by more then one user shows how multi-threaded applications suck so much to program. Moreover, if you try to use gdb to debug then you'll see the crazy world that we're living. -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software

Re: Making one multiseat user able to switch vts?

2008-11-17 Thread Tiago Vignatti
and trivial to remove more things from the server. Dave obtained a very nice demo recently starting a rootless X server. Cheers, PS: really, try to avoid a single machine to configure your multiseat box. No one needs text console in our current world. -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação

Re: Xephyr - Attach specific mouse device without be root?

2008-11-17 Thread Tiago Vignatti
run directly from a VT, so why not for Xephyr?] note that you have to get superuser permissions to start a normal X server. Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg

Re: XDMCP / Gnome / KDE / Data transfer / GTK QT / Xorg extension

2008-11-17 Thread Tiago Vignatti
the same applications on the server, displaying it locally and see if is a network problem. Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http

Re: XDMCP and NAT

2008-11-17 Thread Tiago Vignatti
. It can consume a significant amount of energy, specially for mobile devices. Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Patch 00/02] mieq threading prep

2008-11-17 Thread Tiago Vignatti
them into master. Right. If the patches are useful for xquartz then both are justified even in the lack of xorg's input thread: Signed-off-by: Tiago Vignatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jeremy, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br

Re: very bad, and very weird, scrolling text performance xorg 1.5.3 intel 2.5.1 GM965

2008-12-21 Thread Tiago Vignatti
are subscribed to the planet and they are amazingly updating it. (and yes, we definitely need to separate it in a planet.x.org subset) Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list

Re: Docs in the modular tree, how to ?

2008-12-21 Thread Tiago Vignatti
should I do with this ? I saw that there's also a xorg-sgml-doctools ? it's DocBook files. In my machine this works pretty well: $ sudo apt-get install docbook-utils $ docbook2pdf file.sgml -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br

Re: image corruption when in multiseat mode and vga!=normal kernel parameter

2008-12-21 Thread Tiago Vignatti
the PCI configuration space in some weird ways and for sure that if you try other crazy combinations you're lost. Don't try do that. See: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-November/040400.html Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre

Re: multihead / dual input howto (two local users, keyboards etc.)?

2009-01-04 Thread Tiago Vignatti
it: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/Multiseat Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman

[PATCH 1/4] DRM: in-kernel cursor update on the top of mode setting.

2009-01-05 Thread Tiago Vignatti
will spit the events to DRM (drm_collect_input_event). DRM will take care about the event informations and also screen limits, and then will draw the cursor on screen. Signed-off-by: Tiago Vignatti vigna...@c3sl.ufpr.br --- libdrm/xf86drm.c | 20 libdrm/xf86drm.h |4

[PATCH 2/4] X server: dricursor implementation using the X server as application.

2009-01-05 Thread Tiago Vignatti
This implementation gives two ioctls APIs (DRICursorSetDev, DRICursorHotspot) to interface with the DRM modesetting cursors. For now this patch disables the pointer acceleration scheme. Signed-off-by: Tiago Vignatti vigna...@c3sl.ufpr.br --- Makefile.am|1 + configure.ac

[PATCH 4/4] xf86-video-intel: save drm FD to be used by dri cursor (the shortcut scheme).

2009-01-05 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Signed-off-by: Tiago Vignatti vigna...@c3sl.ufpr.br --- src/i830_dri.c |4 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/i830_dri.c b/src/i830_dri.c index 07ae646..e9484bd 100644 --- a/src/i830_dri.c +++ b/src/i830_dri.c @@ -108,6 +108,8 @@ typedef struct

Re: multihead / dual input howto (two local users, keyboards etc.)?

2009-01-08 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Tomasz Chmielewski escreveu: Tiago Vignatti schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski escreveu: BTW, I tried the multiseat live CD from http://wiki.c3sl.ufpr.br/multiseat/index.php/Live-CD I like its hardware detection (press F1, left mouse to activate this screen). Indeed, it's nice. Now

Re: multihead / dual input howto (two local users, keyboards etc.)?

2009-01-08 Thread Tiago Vignatti
are that if someone comes to the xorg wiki they want to get it to run on their machine. For historical references they should rather go to wikipedia or google or something. Indeed. I've changed it. Thanks Peter, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br

Re: Proper way to enable port access tracing with current xserver

2009-01-20 Thread Tiago Vignatti
? yeah, this is pretty much the task of the vga arbiter. See my next email... -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman

Re: Proper way to enable port access tracing with current xserver

2009-01-20 Thread Tiago Vignatti
://wiki.x.org/wiki/VgaArbiter I double-checked the links on this wiki. All looks good. Also, there's a nice reading for you here: http://www.inf.ufpr.br/vignatti/papers/vignatti-wso08.pdf Good luck. Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre

Re: Proper way to enable port access tracing with current xserver

2009-01-20 Thread Tiago Vignatti
will see a lot of crazy things on screen... like the lights of a rave party, or a screen that remembers an Atari game... well, it will depends in the kind of things you'll be smoking). Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br

Re: [RFC] Patch series: switching to internal events

2009-02-02 Thread Tiago Vignatti
. Something like tables.c. Cheers, -- Tiago Vignatti C3SL - Centro de Computação Científica e Software Livre www.c3sl.ufpr.br ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

Re: Building and Installing an older Release e.g. Xorg 7.2

2009-04-21 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Dieter und Sigrid Henskes escreveu: I wish to install Xorg 7.2 on my system ( Linux Kernel 2.6.27.7-9 - SUSE 11.1 ) as the mga driver does not support 7.4. I'm using a Matrox G550 AGP here with 7.4. Send the logs files to us, please. Cheers, Tiago

Re: After an update I get error message no screens found

2009-04-27 Thread Tiago Vignatti
rosenrei...@arcor.de escreveu: Hi, I updated my system and after a reboot the Xserver failed to start. I got the message: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found I tried the new unmodified xorg.conf and my old working xorg.conf

Re: Xorg and multiple graphics cards

2009-04-28 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Hi, martin f krafft escreveu: 3. When moving the mouse from head to head, the old pointer is left on the edge of the head we just left, and stays there while a new pointer moves about on the entered head. When moving back, the new pointer stays at the edge, and the old pointer is

Re: Xorg and multiple graphics cards

2009-04-28 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Alex Deucher escreveu: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:07 PM, martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net wrote: Your best bet short term is to use xserver 1.4.x. Any idea how long that short term is? 1.4.x works fine for me at the moment, but I'd rather not build on that basis for indeterminate time...

Re: Xorg and multiple graphics cards

2009-04-28 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Hi Timothy, Timothy S. Nelson escreveu: Can I point out that https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20816 and its dependencies are the appropriate bugs for the issue? Not that I want to discourage mailing list comment, or anything, but merely to point any relevant people at

Re: multiseat, -sharevts, and suspend/hibernate

2009-05-12 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Hugo Vanwoerkom escreveu: Matt Price wrote: hi, snip So i'm wondering: does anyone out there have a multiseat system that actually can suspend and hibernate successfully? And if so, do you use the -sharevts switch when starting X, or do you have some other trick for getting the x sessions

Re: multiseat, -sharevts, and suspend/hibernate

2009-05-12 Thread Tiago Vignatti
McDonald, Michael-p7438c escreveu: I'm confused. What does rootless servers have to do with multiseat? In the current implementation, multiseat implies in several servers in parallel, which in turn implies in hardware accesses in parallel (mostly not coordinated by anyone), which in turn

Re: [PATCH] xf86-video-geode: fix GPIO BAR detection with libpciaccess

2009-05-22 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Andres Salomon escreveu: This patch fixes an issue with the GPIO BAR detection. Basically, with libpciaccess we're finding the ISA device and checking its BARs, Well at least the description is wrong: ISA has fixed address mappings and doesn't use BARs. Cheers, Tiago

Re: [PATCH] glx: damage is only used with DRI

2009-07-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
pushed. Thank you. On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 04:44:59PM +0200, extralov...@mail.nokia.com wrote: Would someone please review this? Thanks, Kristof On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 16:08, RALOVICH, Kristófkristof.ralov...@gmail.com wrote: Compile tested. Please review and apply. Thanks,

Re: [PATCH] glx: remove Xgl leftover

2009-07-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
pushed. Thank you. On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 04:37:04PM +0200, extralov...@mail.nokia.com wrote: Would someone please review this? Thanks, Kristof On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 15:23, RALOVICH, Kristófkristof.ralov...@gmail.com wrote: Compile tested and grep found no references. Please

Re: Problem building xserver 1.5.1

2009-08-04 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:39:44PM +0200, Diego A. Fons wrote: In file included from linuxPci.c:271: /usr/include/linux/pci.h:453: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'pci_power_t' linuxPci.c:553: warning: no previous prototype for 'xf86AccResFromOS' I'm

Re: Issues with X Server Compilation on Virtual box

2009-09-14 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Hi, On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:11:23PM +0200, ext mrinal nargunde wrote: We are undergraduate students trying to install X Server on virtual box. We have installed all required packages. After running the startx command, we got the following error in the log: (++) Using config file:

Re: Blank screen on starting X

2009-09-15 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 04:24:15PM +0200, ext Flittigs at PICT wrote: Hello all, we are undergrad students trying to install and compile the latest X release on a virtual box. We did all installation on /opt/MPX prefix. on doing sudo /opt/MPX/bin/X -config /../xorg.conf , the X server

Re: CT ct65545 problem

2009-10-25 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Yan Seiner wrote: I have a very, very old laptop - 1995 vintage - that I want to repurpose for a net-terminal. It has a Chips and Technologies 65545 video chipset. This works with X as I've run it in the past with both freeBSD and an older version of linux (something with a 2.4 kernel and

Re: VT switch event

2009-12-04 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Andriy Gapon wrote: Does X server send any event to its clients on VT switch? In other words, is it possible for a client to get notified of such event? Or is it totally transparent? no, no event is send from the X server. But why you want that? Tiago

Re: Multiseat with VGAArbiter on 2 Radeon cards

2009-12-05 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:00:19PM +0100, ext Steffen Schaumburg wrote: Hi everyone, I'm trying to setup multiseat with 2 radeon cards using the new-ish VGA arbiter thing. The latest info I could find about it is dated July and said that one needs to get certain things from git but since linux

Re: libpciaccess x86 backend

2010-01-19 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Hi, I put some minor comments bellow. Make sure you send your future patches to xorg-de...@lists.freedesktop.org instead. On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 06:30:00PM +0100, ext Samuel Thibault wrote: This adds support on x86 for OSes that do not have a PCI interface, tinkering with I/O ports, and

Re: mouse in zaphod mode on radeon

2010-04-06 Thread Tiago Vignatti
: 6.12.6 xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are attached. You might be using a version of the server without this patch bellow: commit f9a2fff2248d7254958857677cabfea914ed4853 Author: Tiago Vignatti tiago.vigna...@nokia.com Date: Wed Aug 5 21:02:29 2009 +0300 mi: fix cursor warping screens

[ANNOUNCE] libXfont 1.4.2

2010-06-23 Thread Tiago Vignatti
obsolete AM_CONFIG_HEADER with AC_CONFIG_HEADERS config: fontconf.h.in is redundant in EXTRA_DIST Tiago Vignatti (2): Use one single function to register fpe functions libXfont 1.4.2 Yaakov Selkowitz (1): Add -lbz2 to Libs.private if bzip2 is enabled git tag: libXfont

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.8.99.904

2010-07-01 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 07:24:25PM +0200, ext Greg KH wrote: On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 06:45:48PM +0300, Tiago Vignatti wrote: [0] On the top of the Jonathan's tree I applied some patches concerning X.Org. I'm cc-ing him also who might be interested to fetch it: ttp

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.8.99.904

2010-07-02 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 08:16:34PM +0200, ext Greg KH wrote: Note, I have a bunch of the xorg developers already in our main gitdm configuration file due to me running the numbers a long time ago for a Linux Plumbers conference talk. I think it's somewhere public as well, but I can't find it

Re: [PATCH] os: Don't write the reply that overflows output buffer

2010-08-03 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 03:25:29PM +0200, ext Kristian Høgsberg wrote: Cleaning up X code that works isn't my kind of fun. ahaa, I knew that! And it's one of the reasons you started Wayland :) Tiago, having fun trashing X code ___

Re: Is this an X bug?

2010-08-03 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 07:45:54PM +0200, ext Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 12:21 -0400, Bob Self wrote: I'm running Ubuntu linux and am getting lockups. When it 'locks up' sometimes I can login via ssh, sometimes everything is halted. When I can log in I always find that X

Re: X lib support for embedded systems.

2010-08-11 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 06:49:01AM +0200, ext Piotr Gluszenia Slawinski wrote: http://83.18.229.190/minimalistix_linux/static-binaries/XF86_SVGA this one is static binary which is pretty old and has ~4M footprint, and since then i could not build either anything smaller, or anything which

Re: X lib support for embedded systems.

2010-08-11 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:19:55AM +0200, ext Praveen J C (RBEI/EST1) wrote: Also I came across kdrive.. but they its obsolete? is it true? yes, in short kdrive hardware servers are obsolete. Tiago ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org

Re: X lib support for embedded systems.

2010-08-11 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 01:59:32PM +0200, ext Praveen J C (RBEI/EST1) wrote: Basically X11 and fltk must occupy not more than 20MB! I found interesting that your biggest concern here is storage. That's _really_ cheap nowadays! Tiago ___

Re: xorg and int10: problem

2010-08-17 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:33:07PM +0200, ext Francisco P Kaseker wrote: Hello =] My system: pci-e card: via, driver openchrome pci: sis, driver sis, 315pro pci: sis, driver sis, 315pro system: ubuntu 10.04 updated, X.Org X Server 1.7.6, Release Date: 2010-03-17 Problem: I need to

Re: Zapping the Xorg server

2010-08-26 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 04:50:18PM +0200, ext Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Wolfgang Draxinger wdraxinger.maill...@draxit.de wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:25:04 +0900 Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: (...) Only instead, it kills your X server...  :( Ouch...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.9.0

2010-09-02 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 02:44:37AM +0200, ext Keith Packard wrote: Welcome to X server version 1.9.0. I ran gitdm again and got some pretty numbers for this release. I posted in my blog: http://vignatti.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/x-census-for-1-9/ Hope y'all like it :) Tiago

Re: 3MB Memory Leak in KDrive Xfbdev

2010-11-01 Thread Tiago Vignatti
Hi, On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 11:45:57AM +0530, ext vrushali shinde wrote: Hello All, I need to fix memory leak issue urgently, any inputs regarding this would very useful to me. Thanks again. Kdrive development is practically dead. We just have some few people working on Xephyr backend and

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.9.99.901

2010-12-08 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:04:22PM -0800, ext Keith Packard wrote: Ok, I think we've done enough damage for one release. Thanks everyone for pulling a long weekend to get changes prepared and reviewed. We're still missing the threaded input stuff, but that needs more review and I think we

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.10.0

2011-02-28 Thread Tiago Vignatti
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:57:28PM -0800, ext Keith Packard wrote: Here's the final 1.10 release. Since RC3, we've had a few build fixes made, and one regression fixed (a crasher on sparc and other architectures). A complete changelog since 1.9.0 for your amusement. Not surprisingly,