Re: Installed Games

2015-01-29 Thread Ivà Burgos
2015-01-29 8:57 GMT+01:00 Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com: On 28/01/15 07:54, Elfy wrote: Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments. We're not going to be adding games - the question is whether to

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-29 Thread PK
@Elfy: Why do you consider these games as mere clutter? They offer simple amusement to many, which I find as important as, say, having multiple desktop wallpapers to choose from. Or having multiple themes. The installation packages of most of these games take even less space on the iso, than an

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-29 Thread Elfy
On 29/01/15 09:59, PK wrote: @Elfy: Why do you consider these games as mere clutter? They offer simple amusement to many, which I find as important as, say, having multiple desktop wallpapers to choose from. Or having multiple themes. Because one person's Must have this or the world will end

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-29 Thread Toni Sissala
On 29.1.2015 14:48, Elfy wrote: On 29/01/15 09:59, PK wrote: [SNIP] The installation packages of most of these games take even less space on the iso, than an average wallpaper. For instance: in Xubuntu 14.04, the installation package of AisleRiot Solitaire is only half a megabyte: 585

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Bruno Benitez
I think I agree with Pjotr when he says that not having any game will make the distro look more dry, less friendly. Not all the people who would choose xubuntu to install on machines will have internet conections constantly, some might go to places where its just an easy to install and use OS for

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Ince, Wilbur
Games DO take space on the ISO, which is a premium. So removing them should be a consideration. Advanced users will not miss them, because they will install their own anyway. NEW users are the prize target here. Not including them makes the distro seem cheap and flimsy as was pointed out. Is

RE: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Thomas Molloy
: Installed Games From: frostso...@gmail.com To: xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Depends on the gamer really. I play rare indie games to triple A games on linux using many sources including steam and wine if I can't get it to work natively in Linux. Most people just want it to work though. As far as an OS

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
I would drop all games altogether. I don't know how many play simple desktop games in 2015, but I would imagine its a lesser number than browser-based game players. Ultimately, it's definitely less than people who use social media... That being said, I'm sure people will rather log in to

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Dave
I would agree, that only one or two of the existing games. (First thing I do is install the games I actually use). This may get me shot down :-) , but how about including the steam installer undergame with just one or two games.. Dave On 28 January 2015 at 08:08 Jackson Doak

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Frostsongr
Depends on the gamer really. I play rare indie games to triple A games on linux using many sources including steam and wine if I can't get it to work natively in Linux. Most people just want it to work though. As far as an OS you should not worry too much about gaming really. Just have the basics.

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread David Pires
+1 from me on dropping the games altogether. The majority of today gamers are mostly into emulators, console and social media platforms games. slickymaster https://wiki.ubuntu.com/slickymaster Xubuntu Documentation Lead -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Dave
Very Good point on teh Licencing of Steam forgot about that.. In that case, I will change my mind and go for dropping the games.. virtually everyone i know who uses Xubuntu (or any linux distro) install the game they want and very rarely use the one already installed. Regards Dave On 28

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread PK
I would like to plea for having some simple games by default in Xubuntu Most simple Xubuntu users I know (people with little understanding of computers, who use Xubuntu because somebody installed Xubuntu for them), make use of those simple games rather frequently. They play mostly AisleRiot,

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Lutz Andersohn
Agreed, we don't need games I think. Sent from Blue Mail On Jan 28, 2015, 2:09 AM, at 2:09 AM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com wrote: I think having some default games is important, but we don't need more that minesweeper + 1 other On 28 Jan 2015 18:55, Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com wrote:

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Jackson Doak
I think having some default games is important, but we don't need more that minesweeper + 1 other On 28 Jan 2015 18:55, Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com wrote: Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments. --

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Bruno Augusto Clemente de Assis
I think we should keep at least one or two games. Cut them off wouldn't be nice. Still there is people who play games in desktop, i'm one of them, although not frequently. +1 to (Solitaire, Minesweeper, Chess) they are extremely useful when your internet is off or you are waiting for someone.

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Peter Rauhut dab...@gmail.com wrote: What is the premium for the games? I don't know off the top of my head how much space they take up, but the VM install of Xubuntu 14.04 I'm looking at right now only came with Mines and Sudoku, I can't imagine those are much

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread George DiceGeorge
can i vote to include sokoban if its not too big as its the only game i play, ive had 3 year olds play it successfully! [george] -Original Message- From: Elizabeth K. Joseph Sent: Wednesday, 28 January, 2015 20:36 To: Xubuntu Development Discussion Subject: Re: Installed Games On Wed

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Dave Dodge
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:17:46AM +0200, Pasi Lallinaho wrote: shipping Steam isn't sensible with any distribution. Only the amount of data we would need to ship with every download is beyond insanity – just to install a few games the user might or might not play once, let alone talking about

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Peter Rauhut
What is the premium for the games? I don't know off the top of my head how much space they take up, but the VM install of Xubuntu 14.04 I'm looking at right now only came with Mines and Sudoku, I can't imagine those are much larger than a few MBs. That's a very small impact on the size of the

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Erik OShea
] -Original Message- From: Elizabeth K. Joseph Sent: Wednesday, 28 January, 2015 20:36 To: Xubuntu Development Discussion Subject: Re: Installed Games On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Peter Rauhut dab...@gmail.com wrote: What is the premium for the games? I don't know off the top of my head how

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread Elfy
On 28/01/15 07:54, Elfy wrote: Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments. Just a bit confused as to how this apparently says Can we have a list of all the games each of you would like to see cluttering up

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread A Blesius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree with Pjotr and Bruno, was just about to answer in the same way. Some basic games (and I think we're not talking about 2–3 here) don't hurt too much, but none at all makes Xubuntu like a boring distro, which can't be rescued by cool wallpapers

Re: Installed Games

2015-01-28 Thread XbrandoX
Everyone I know who isn't a developer looks for the standard windows 98 games when they get stuck on my linux machines ... minesweeper solitaire. Not sure if that's worth anything, though. On 01/28/2015 11:33 AM, Bruno Augusto Clemente de Assis wrote: I think we should keep at least one or

Installed Games

2015-01-27 Thread Elfy
Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments. -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel