Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-06 Thread P.K.
Too much unreasonable negativism, I think. Xubuntu 13.10 is generally a fine operating system, of high quality. Stable as a rock and reliable. The very small group of Xubuntu developers have done a great job, for which I'm very grateful to them. If you want an enterprise grade operating system,

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-06 Thread Alistair Buxton
PPA with fixed package: https://launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/+archive/indicator-sound-gtk2 ppa:a-j-buxton/indicator-sound-gtk2 This doesn't use the workaround from the bug report. It fixes it in a way which is hopefully compatible with other desktops. It needs testing though, on systems with both

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-05 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Altogether this is an unfortunate situation, but there was little we could do in time to get it fixed. For 14.04, we're looking to migrate to a panel that has GTK3 support. This should fix all the indicator issues/breakages that happened in the last few cycles. This was one of the options for

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-05 Thread Bruno Benitez
Hi, Pjtor, I am not a programmer, but I see a huge problem with your very easy fix, you see, xubuntu shares most and almost all their setting from mainbuntu, so the file /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service belongs to all the *buntu multiverse, changing its content would have

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-05 Thread Richard Elkins
The issues with bug #1208204 are these: (1) The complaints began in July. As of 70 milliseconds ago, this bug is not assigned to anyone, with a status of Undecided, and still marked as New to Ubuntu Studio. (2) See Peter Flynn's earlier mail. Well-articulated IMO. (3) If the indicator-sound

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-05 Thread legacy daily
I also felt this was a real issue. Between this and a number of other annoying bugs - like race condition booting from SSD, new users may end up quite disappointed. Hopefully the LTS will have a much higher quality. - George On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Richard Elkins richard.elk...@gmail.com

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-04 Thread Bruno Benitez
Hello Richard, as I understand from the meetings we have held , if there is enough need of it our developers can make a fix through the backport channel. http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-11-03-22.39.log.html#l-41 It is very sad that we have this issue in

Re: Bug #1208204 - indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin

2013-12-04 Thread Lutz Andersohn
Thumbs up for Peter's sentiment expressed in his email. I might add, even for the users skilled enough and willing to dig down and apply a workaround, it takes time. The situation becomes even more frustrating if something used to work and got broken! I