Fw: Ubuntu Open Week Sessions

2009-04-08 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Jorge O. Castro wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 We are preparing for the next Ubuntu Open Week, which is the week
 after release, 27 April - 1 May. Ubuntu Open Week is a week-long set
 of IRC workshop sessions held by various members of the community to
 the public. They cover a vast set of topics, anything from development
 to LoCos, translations, bugs, answers, launchpad, bzr, packaging,
 community development, and more.

 As you can see, the schedule is blank:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/

 I am collecting interested topics for discussion here:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep

 I am looking for volunteers to run sessions!
   
Hi everybody,

just a quick reminder that we are close to Ubuntu Open Week. Maybe we
should have a session about Xubuntu?

If somebody wants to keep a session, I'm open in helping, if I'm needed.

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Proposition for a xubuntu support page

2009-04-08 Thread Alexander Blomen
Hi,

This morning there was some talk about how to get (new) xubuntu users to 
join #xubuntu on irc if they need help instead of #ubuntu which is 
default for most/all irc clients.

The proposition:
Instead of using default-settings packages and the likes to change the 
default channel to connect to when an irc client is first run, create a 
one-stop-shop support page on the xubuntu website which is linked to 
from a launcher in the xfce menu.

This page would have a web-based irc client (like mibbit) embedded and 
links to the different sources of documentation and places to post your 
questions.

I have made a demo of how I imagine a page like this would work:
http://ablomen.nl/xubuntu/

NOTE: I have only successfully tested the demo in firefox

In the top box there is a short text about the different places where 
you can get help, you can collapse this box to have more room for the 
frames that hold the different websites and the chat client.

Under the top box is a bar where you can switch between the different 
websites that offer the help, a button to collapse/expand the top box 
and a search bar where you can directly search the different websites.

On the right side there is also an expandable box which holds the irc 
client. This could be mibbit which is set-up to automatically log in to 
#xubuntu on freenode after you enter your desired username. This box 
would not be reloaded when switching between the different tabs and 
searching the different sites.

It should be possible to stay inside the page while browsing the 
different support websites and clicking on links supplied by people over 
irc so people would stay in the same environment while searching for a 
solution for their problem.

This might make getting help easier for people that are just starting to 
use xubuntu by getting all the different sources of help in one place.

Cheers.
Alexander Blomen

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Re: Proposition for a xubuntu support page

2009-04-08 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello Alexander,

and thanks for doing the mockup.

Alexander Blomen wrote:
 Hi,

 This morning there was some talk about how to get (new) xubuntu users to 
 join #xubuntu on irc if they need help instead of #ubuntu which is 
 default for most/all irc clients.

 The proposition:
 Instead of using default-settings packages and the likes to change the 
 default channel to connect to when an irc client is first run, create a 
 one-stop-shop support page on the xubuntu website which is linked to 
 from a launcher in the xfce menu.

 This page would have a web-based irc client (like mibbit) embedded and 
 links to the different sources of documentation and places to post your 
 questions.

 I have made a demo of how I imagine a page like this would work:
 http://ablomen.nl/xubuntu/

 NOTE: I have only successfully tested the demo in firefox

   
I just tested this in Firefox and the iframes doesn't seem to scale
correctly. (I only get everything in an iframe of maybe 200px width.)
This seems to work once i expand and collapse the IRC client tab.

However, what comes about supporting and working across browsers, this
page will be the default for Xubuntu installations, we don't have to
worry about Internet Explorer and such too much.
 In the top box there is a short text about the different places where 
 you can get help, you can collapse this box to have more room for the 
 frames that hold the different websites and the chat client.

 Under the top box is a bar where you can switch between the different 
 websites that offer the help, a button to collapse/expand the top box 
 and a search bar where you can directly search the different websites.

 On the right side there is also an expandable box which holds the irc 
 client. This could be mibbit which is set-up to automatically log in to 
 #xubuntu on freenode after you enter your desired username. This box 
 would not be reloaded when switching between the different tabs and 
 searching the different sites.
   
My first thought and concern is that the two tabs expanding and
collapsing from different angles is a bit too much complexity. We also
should make totally clear what are those different things supposed to
mean to them. Also, we don't want to have too much complexity in the
normal start page, so this would have to be loaded only if a user clicks
a link or something.
 It should be possible to stay inside the page while browsing the 
 different support websites and clicking on links supplied by people over 
 irc so people would stay in the same environment while searching for a 
 solution for their problem.
   
I think this totally is crucial, and the IRC client maybe should be
visible all the time once the user has logged in.
 This might make getting help easier for people that are just starting to 
 use xubuntu by getting all the different sources of help in one place.
   
True, but we need to keep things so simple that people don't get confused.
 Cheers.
 Alexander Blomen
   
A bit about the tabs: I don't know if Xubuntu wiki should be a tab. It
doesn't really provide any useful information for user who is seeking
for support. However, it is a good link for those who want to
contribute. In this case the user doesn't really need this tab support,
so maybe it would be better to link to the wiki from the first page.

What comes about Ubuntu wiki, I propose the same thing or drop it away
completely. The Ubuntu wiki already links to two help/support pages:
https://help.ubuntu.com/ and
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/CommunitySupport. Those are links I might
want to see as tabs.

Ubuntu forums link is OK as is.

The Launchpad link should point to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu and
maybe have a different title, for example File a bug.

I'm not sure about Google.

In addition to the current tabs, we want to link the Xubuntu website and
the official Xubuntu blog once it's launched.

The search bar is OK, but I think it needs some work as well.

Sorry for commenting unfinished work :)

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Re: Xubuntu Jaunty meeting schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Campbell
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Jim Campbell jwcampb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Per our meeting discussions towards the end of the last month, here's a
 tentative Xubuntu team meeting schedule for the remainder of the Jaunty
 release cycle.


 April 5 (I've moved April's meeting date up in consideration of the Jaunty
 release schedule)


Hi All,

It seems that we missed our scheduled meeting time this weekend
(unless it was just me that missed it, and everyone else showed up).
If that were the case, and the meeting was held, does anyone have a
meeting log?

If that wasn't the case, and no meeting was held, would people find it
beneficial to have a meeting this weekend?  Perhaps on Saturday, as
Sunday is Easter Sunday?

Jim

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Re: Xubuntu Jaunty meeting schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Campbell
Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
 Jim Campbell wrote:
   
 On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Jim Campbell jwcampb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
   
 
 Hi All,

 Per our meeting discussions towards the end of the last month, here's a
 tentative Xubuntu team meeting schedule for the remainder of the Jaunty
 release cycle.
 
   
   
 
 April 5 (I've moved April's meeting date up in consideration of the Jaunty
 release schedule)
 
   
 Hi All,

 It seems that we missed our scheduled meeting time this weekend
 (unless it was just me that missed it, and everyone else showed up).
 If that were the case, and the meeting was held, does anyone have a
 meeting log?

 If that wasn't the case, and no meeting was held, would people find it
 beneficial to have a meeting this weekend?  Perhaps on Saturday, as
 Sunday is Easter Sunday?

 Jim

   
 
 Hi Jim,

 we all missed the meeting. Or then only me and you missed the meeting. :)

 Saturday sounds great. Which time?

   
Shall we say UTC 1600?  That was our typical Sunday time.

Jim


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