I think I agree with Pjotr when he says that not having any game will make
the distro look more dry, less friendly. Not all the people who would
choose xubuntu to install on machines will have internet conections
constantly, some might go to places where its just an easy to install and
use OS for
Games DO take space on the ISO, which is a premium. So removing them
should be a consideration.
Advanced users will not miss them, because they will install their own
anyway.
NEW users are the prize target here. Not including them makes the distro
seem cheap and flimsy as was pointed out.
Is
The basics are a nice thing to have, especially when you're on a slow
connection during setup so you can play minesweeper while things download. Tho
not really needed beyond that so I would +1 removing them as well.
- Thomas MolloyLderan
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:58:42 -0600
Subject: Re:
I would drop all games altogether.
I don't know how many play simple desktop games in 2015, but I would
imagine its a lesser number than browser-based game players. Ultimately,
it's definitely less than people who use social media... That being
said, I'm sure people will rather log in to
I would agree, that only one or two of the existing games. (First thing I do is
install the games I actually use).
This may get me shot down :-) , but how about including the steam installer
undergame with just one or two games..
Dave
On 28 January 2015 at 08:08 Jackson Doak
There is an agenda item on User Polls.
We're trying to find out how users identify themselves, this is a first
step in that direction.
There's an etherpad set up with the current thoughts. [1]
Comments on that please
[1] http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-user-identifies-as
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Depends on the gamer really. I play rare indie games to triple A games on
linux using many sources including steam and wine if I can't get it to work
natively in Linux. Most people just want it to work though. As far as an OS
you should not worry too much about gaming really. Just have the basics.
+1 from me on dropping the games altogether.
The majority of today gamers are mostly into emulators, console and social
media platforms games.
slickymaster
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Very Good point on teh Licencing of Steam forgot about that..
In that case, I will change my mind and go for dropping the games.. virtually
everyone i know who uses Xubuntu (or any linux distro) install the game they
want and very rarely use the one already installed.
Regards
Dave
On 28
I would like to plea for having some simple games by default in Xubuntu
Most simple Xubuntu users I know (people with little understanding of
computers, who use Xubuntu because somebody installed Xubuntu for them),
make use of those simple games rather frequently.
They play mostly AisleRiot,
Agreed, we don't need games I think.
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On Jan 28, 2015, 2:09 AM, at 2:09 AM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I think having some default games is important, but we don't need more
that
minesweeper + 1 other
On 28 Jan 2015 18:55, Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com wrote:
I think having some default games is important, but we don't need more that
minesweeper + 1 other
On 28 Jan 2015 18:55, Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com wrote:
Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at
the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments.
--
I think we should keep at least one or two games. Cut them off wouldn't be
nice. Still there is people who play games in desktop, i'm one of them,
although not frequently. +1 to (Solitaire, Minesweeper, Chess) they are
extremely useful when your internet is off or you are waiting for someone.
On 2015-01-28 23:32, Peter Rauhut wrote:
Is it crucial to have a default office application at all? I would
imagine anybody who is new to Linux would be happy just having access
to Mousepad as a GUI text editor in the menu
Mousepad is the equivalent of Notepad in Windows. People can probably
We need to triage the current lp abiword bugs, as a lot was fixed in 3.0.1.
Maybe watching the svn could help too, as the upstream devs are fairly
active
We are one bugfix release behind on gnumeric, so if anyone's reasoning is a
bug, can they please check
On 2015-01-28 22:51, George DiceGeorge wrote:
Would you have to put all components of LibreOffice in the ISO,
including the dictionaries,
or could you just put the word processer part in the ISO
and a link to download the rest of it?
[george]
How are we feeling about our default
Hi everyone,
We've had this discussion a few times in past cycles, but as we
continue to bump into bugs in Abiword[0], the topic has come up again.
How are we feeling about our default choice of Abiword and Gnumeric as
the office applications for Xubuntu? Is it time to consider switching
to
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Peter Rauhut dab...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the premium for the games? I don't know off the top of my head how
much space they take up, but the VM install of Xubuntu 14.04 I'm looking at
right now only came with Mines and Sudoku, I can't imagine those are much
Would you have to put all components of LibreOffice in the ISO,
including the dictionaries,
or could you just put the word processer part in the ISO
and a link to download the rest of it?
[george]
How are we feeling about our default choice of Abiword and Gnumeric as
the office
can i vote to include sokoban
if its not too big
as its the only game i play,
ive had 3 year olds play it successfully!
[george]
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To: Xubuntu Development Discussion
Subject: Re: Installed Games
On
Hi,
On keskiviikko 28 tammikuu 2015, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
We've had this discussion a few times in past cycles, but as we
continue to bump into bugs in Abiword[0], the topic has come up again.
How are we feeling about our default choice of Abiword and Gnumeric as
the office
OK, first of all, sorry for the shortness of my contribution. Allow me to
explain a bit.
We are thinking about standard on the go users who run Xubuntu Live, I
think GiMP is a great tool for editing and creating photo projects. But
games, lets be truly sinceres, we dont run it live to play, am I
On 28/01/15 20:39, Jackson Doak wrote:
We need to triage the current lp abiword bugs, as a lot was fixed in
3.0.1. Maybe watching the svn could help too, as the upstream devs are
fairly active
We are one bugfix release behind on gnumeric, so if anyone's reasoning
is a bug, can they please
On 2015-01-29 01:40, Bruno Benitez wrote:
I think that the basic use of an image editor for a standard user are
the ones signaled on the tables on the comparison page [1], Croping,
Adding text, Rezise, Rotate, Navigate Folders. The only thing a good
image viewer still lacks on linux is adding
I think that the basic use of an image editor for a standard user are the
ones signaled on the tables on the comparison page [1], Croping, Adding
text, Rezise, Rotate, Navigate Folders. The only thing a good image viewer
still lacks on linux is adding text, thats the only thing from the list
that
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:17:46AM +0200, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
shipping Steam isn't sensible with any distribution. Only the amount
of data we would need to ship with every download is beyond insanity
– just to install a few games the user might or might not play once,
let alone talking about
What is the premium for the games? I don't know off the top of my head
how much space they take up, but the VM install of Xubuntu 14.04 I'm
looking at right now only came with Mines and Sudoku, I can't imagine
those are much larger than a few MBs. That's a very small impact on the
size of the
Since we are discussing about other choices in the default seed already,
it feels like the perfect time to bring yet another discussion to the table:
Do we want to keep shipping GIMP?
For some background, the team has discussed the issue [1] and gone
through various simpler alternatives [2]
I'd prefer we dropped gimp, it's a bit too big and complex for the default
install. maybe a lighter editor would be nice though.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org
wrote:
Since we are discussing about other choices in the default seed already,
it feels like
Hi,
On torstai 29 tammikuu 2015, David Bermúdez Guiot wrote:
Gimp should still be shipped, however I don't think games should be
installed.
Why? What's your reasoning?
Btw. Is it possible to have Software Center front page seeded with things
that people may want to install first (things
Agreed. The learning curve is too steep for a default editor. If there
isn't a good replacement for a default editor, it should be dropped.
On Jan 28, 2015 4:37 PM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I'd prefer we dropped gimp, it's a bit too big and complex for the default
install. maybe a
SuperTux 2 is also a great game and SuperTuxKart Both are amazing.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:42 PM, George DiceGeorge dicegeo...@hotmail.com
wrote:
can i vote to include sokoban
if its not too big
as its the only game i play,
ive had 3 year olds play it successfully!
[george]
Gimp is really not that bad it is a bit heavy. i use it all the time on
xubuntu 14.10
on my desktop and ubuntu mate 14.10 on my external hard drive. its
definitely not for the beginner user.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org
wrote:
Since we are discussing
There is also a portable version you can run on a external hard drive.
windows takes a bit longer deepening if you have ssd or hdd.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Erik OShea erikoshe...@gmail.com wrote:
Gimp is really not that bad it is a bit heavy. i use it all the time on
xubuntu 14.10
On 28/01/15 07:54, Elfy wrote:
Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at
the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments.
Just a bit confused as to how this apparently says
Can we have a list of all the games each of you would like to see
cluttering up
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I agree with Pjotr and Bruno, was just about to answer in the same
way. Some basic games (and I think we're not talking about 2–3 here)
don't hurt too much, but none at all makes Xubuntu like a boring
distro, which can't be rescued by cool wallpapers
Everyone I know who isn't a developer looks for the standard windows 98
games when they get stuck on my linux machines ... minesweeper
solitaire. Not sure if that's worth anything, though.
On 01/28/2015 11:33 AM, Bruno Augusto Clemente de Assis wrote:
I think we should keep at least one or
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