Re: Panel plugin/Indicator plugin/Notification area/Notification plugin/Status Notifier Plugin on Xubuntu 18.04

2018-05-17 Thread Aaron Franke
 Speaking of issues with the panel, I would also like to point out an 
issue when the panel is greater than 50px tall, the "Window Buttons" 
item contains two rows, despite the panel's "Number of rows" set to "1". 

At 49px tall, the "Window Buttons" item displays normally. 

This is very annoying for anyone with a high-resolution screen that 
doesn't want to have a small panel. I have a 1080p screen and I like 
having a 40px panel, but if I were to purchase a 1440p or 4k screen 
then my ideal panel height would be above 50px.

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 12:24:33 PM CDT, Kolmar Kafran 
 wrote:  
 
 For a more visual explanation, this is how I use XFCE for years now:

http://i.imgur.com/w9Narw6.png

I think we should have only one notification "thing" and everything
above the Workspace Switcher in this picture goes inside of it, no?
Well, I'm just a user and this is how I interact with XFCE (=
Also, if someone knows a way to improve this with Xubuntu 18.04
through modifying something with Xfconf or tweaking the theme I would
be thankfully, because I'm sticking with it until 20.04.

King regards,

Kolmar Kafran

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>        area/Notification plugin/Status Notifier Plugin on Xubuntu 18.04
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> Hello. I got to agree with Kolmar on that subject. I know that someone
> can view this issue as small and unimportant, but I also think that
> panel icons (plugins and applets) should be somehow more unified. They
> really don't look good on bigger panels, like Kolmar said. And it seems
> like there are three different plugins to handle very similar things.
>
> I know that there are many more important things to do before 18.10
> release (porting to GTK3, bug fixes etc.), but I hope that the
> Xubuntu/Xfce devs will look at this issue in the future.
>
> Thanks and keep up the good work,
> Mariusz (Spass)
>
>
> W dniu 15.05.2018 o 22:03, Kolmar Kafran pisze:
> > Howdy dear fellows,
> >
> > With the new Xubuntu 18.04 it's a little confusing how these items works
> > together: panel plugins, indicator plugin, notification area and status
> > notifier plugin. What's the best way to go? Within Xubuntu 16.04 I use
> > notification area and indicator plugin and everything just works. Now I
> > feel like there are a lot of these items to do the same thing. For
> > example, now we have a new Power manager panel plugin. But on the power
> > manager settings there is an option to show the power manager icon on
> > notification area which works with notification area but doesn't with
> > "status notifier plugin". Despite this, the notification area icon
> > behaves differently from the power manager plugin.
> >
> > One thing I love about XFCE is the panel because I like to use the panel
> > on the vertical. With these new panel plugins (notification, power,
> > sound etc), the icons size on a vertical panel 35px wide are huge. With
> > notification area plugin its possible to set the maximum pixel size to
> > 22px and everything sits nicely inside notification area. What should I
> > do now? It seems like XFCE has implemented a lot of new features which
> > just overlap other features that do the same thing. When you put
> > everything together it looks like out of place or even a little buggy as
> > things doesn't works as expected.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Kolmar Kafran
> > üPor favor, considere

Re: Panel plugin/Indicator plugin/Notification area/Notification plugin/Status Notifier Plugin on Xubuntu 18.04

2018-05-17 Thread Kolmar Kafran
For a more visual explanation, this is how I use XFCE for years now:

http://i.imgur.com/w9Narw6.png

I think we should have only one notification "thing" and everything
above the Workspace Switcher in this picture goes inside of it, no?
Well, I'm just a user and this is how I interact with XFCE (=
Also, if someone knows a way to improve this with Xubuntu 18.04
through modifying something with Xfconf or tweaking the theme I would
be thankfully, because I'm sticking with it until 20.04.

King regards,

Kolmar Kafran

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> Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 13:42:30 +0200
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> To: xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Panel plugin/Indicator plugin/Notification
> area/Notification plugin/Status Notifier Plugin on Xubuntu 18.04
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> Hello. I got to agree with Kolmar on that subject. I know that someone
> can view this issue as small and unimportant, but I also think that
> panel icons (plugins and applets) should be somehow more unified. They
> really don't look good on bigger panels, like Kolmar said. And it seems
> like there are three different plugins to handle very similar things.
>
> I know that there are many more important things to do before 18.10
> release (porting to GTK3, bug fixes etc.), but I hope that the
> Xubuntu/Xfce devs will look at this issue in the future.
>
> Thanks and keep up the good work,
> Mariusz (Spass)
>
>
> W dniu 15.05.2018 o 22:03, Kolmar Kafran pisze:
> > Howdy dear fellows,
> >
> > With the new Xubuntu 18.04 it's a little confusing how these items works
> > together: panel plugins, indicator plugin, notification area and status
> > notifier plugin. What's the best way to go? Within Xubuntu 16.04 I use
> > notification area and indicator plugin and everything just works. Now I
> > feel like there are a lot of these items to do the same thing. For
> > example, now we have a new Power manager panel plugin. But on the power
> > manager settings there is an option to show the power manager icon on
> > notification area which works with notification area but doesn't with
> > "status notifier plugin". Despite this, the notification area icon
> > behaves differently from the power manager plugin.
> >
> > One thing I love about XFCE is the panel because I like to use the panel
> > on the vertical. With these new panel plugins (notification, power,
> > sound etc), the icons size on a vertical panel 35px wide are huge. With
> > notification area plugin its possible to set the maximum pixel size to
> > 22px and everything sits nicely inside notification area. What should I
> > do now? It seems like XFCE has implemented a lot of new features which
> > just overlap other features that do the same thing. When you put
> > everything together it looks like out of place or even a little buggy as
> > things doesn't works as expected.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Kolmar Kafran
> > üPor favor, considere a proteção ao meio ambiente antes de imprimir esse
> > e-mail.
> >
> >
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Re: Panel plugin/Indicator plugin/Notification area/Notification plugin/Status Notifier Plugin on Xubuntu 18.04

2018-05-17 Thread Willem Hobers

Hi all,

I also feel more unification would be nice: with certain themes the 
icons (as far as their background colour is concerned) behave 
differently on my set up, depending on (I believe) whether they are 
panel or notification plugins - especially when using dark themes this 
is a bit of a nuisance when some icons become invisible.


Still: Xubuntu 18.04 is proving to be a rock solid release. Thanks for 
all the work.


Willem


Op 17-05-18 om 13:42 schreef Mariusz Kubański:
Hello. I got to agree with Kolmar on that subject. I know that someone 
can view this issue as small and unimportant, but I also think that 
panel icons (plugins and applets) should be somehow more unified. They 
really don't look good on bigger panels, like Kolmar said. And it 
seems like there are three different plugins to handle very similar 
things.


I know that there are many more important things to do before 18.10 
release (porting to GTK3, bug fixes etc.), but I hope that the 
Xubuntu/Xfce devs will look at this issue in the future.


Thanks and keep up the good work,
Mariusz (Spass)


W dniu 15.05.2018 o 22:03, Kolmar Kafran pisze:

Howdy dear fellows,

With the new Xubuntu 18.04 it's a little confusing how these items 
works together: panel plugins, indicator plugin, notification area 
and status notifier plugin. What's the best way to go? Within Xubuntu 
16.04 I use notification area and indicator plugin and everything 
just works. Now I feel like there are a lot of these items to do the 
same thing. For example, now we have a new Power manager panel 
plugin. But on the power manager settings there is an option to show 
the power manager icon on notification area which works with 
notification area but doesn't with "status notifier plugin". Despite 
this, the notification area icon behaves differently from the power 
manager plugin.


One thing I love about XFCE is the panel because I like to use the 
panel on the vertical. With these new panel plugins (notification, 
power, sound etc), the icons size on a vertical panel 35px wide are 
huge. With notification area plugin its possible to set the maximum 
pixel size to 22px and everything sits nicely inside notification 
area. What should I do now? It seems like XFCE has implemented a lot 
of new features which just overlap other features that do the same 
thing. When you put everything together it looks like out of place or 
even a little buggy as things doesn't works as expected.


Thank you.

Kolmar Kafran
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Re: Panel plugin/Indicator plugin/Notification area/Notification plugin/Status Notifier Plugin on Xubuntu 18.04

2018-05-17 Thread Mariusz Kubański
Hello. I got to agree with Kolmar on that subject. I know that someone 
can view this issue as small and unimportant, but I also think that 
panel icons (plugins and applets) should be somehow more unified. They 
really don't look good on bigger panels, like Kolmar said. And it seems 
like there are three different plugins to handle very similar things.


I know that there are many more important things to do before 18.10 
release (porting to GTK3, bug fixes etc.), but I hope that the 
Xubuntu/Xfce devs will look at this issue in the future.


Thanks and keep up the good work,
Mariusz (Spass)


W dniu 15.05.2018 o 22:03, Kolmar Kafran pisze:

Howdy dear fellows,

With the new Xubuntu 18.04 it's a little confusing how these items works 
together: panel plugins, indicator plugin, notification area and status 
notifier plugin. What's the best way to go? Within Xubuntu 16.04 I use 
notification area and indicator plugin and everything just works. Now I 
feel like there are a lot of these items to do the same thing. For 
example, now we have a new Power manager panel plugin. But on the power 
manager settings there is an option to show the power manager icon on 
notification area which works with notification area but doesn't with 
"status notifier plugin". Despite this, the notification area icon 
behaves differently from the power manager plugin.


One thing I love about XFCE is the panel because I like to use the panel 
on the vertical. With these new panel plugins (notification, power, 
sound etc), the icons size on a vertical panel 35px wide are huge. With 
notification area plugin its possible to set the maximum pixel size to 
22px and everything sits nicely inside notification area. What should I 
do now? It seems like XFCE has implemented a lot of new features which 
just overlap other features that do the same thing. When you put 
everything together it looks like out of place or even a little buggy as 
things doesn't works as expected.


Thank you.

Kolmar Kafran
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