RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Marc Clifton
Hi Alex, Yeah, was sitting here working away when the email came in, and I thought, wow, cool. My only comment about what you wrote is that I shouldn't have said C#--any language that's CLR compliant would work. Don't like VB? How about Cobol.NET, hehehe. > Your quick response and plugging of

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Alex, > Simple: because not everyone wants to use C# (or VB, > heaven forbid) as their scripting language. Well, Mono is a common language runtime and thus you can use whatever scripting language you prefer e.g. Python, Javascript, etc. Mono doesn't imply that you have to use C#, VB, or

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Alex de Landgraaf
Hi Xul people, Quoting Marc Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Actually, I have another comment to make about the FopSpeen project. Why go > through all those hoops illustrated in the diagram? Use .NET/Mono for the > UI, use MyXaml for the scripting interface, and use C# for the client side > scrip

Re: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Charles Goodwin
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 08:39 -0700, Gerald Bauer wrote: >More @ > http://am.xs4all.nl/phpwiki/index.php/FopSpeen > > What's your take on it? Is Alexander on to > something? Is he onto something? Yes. But he's too late, and the FopSpeen solution is horrendously complex and will be very hard

[xul-talk] Joel Spolsky on WHAT and the Web 1.1 and ideas on how to make HTML sing

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Joel Spolsky who has written an article "How Microsoft Lost the API War" that ends with the conclusion: None of this bodes well for Microsoft and the profits it enjoyed thanks to its API power. The new API is HTML, and the new winners in the application development marketplace will

[xul-talk] Mono/MyXAML/Qt#/Gtk# - Anyone Tried It Out?

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Marc, > Why go through all those hoops illustrated in the > diagram? Use .NET/Mono for the UI, use MyXaml for > the scripting interface, and use C# for the client > side scripting. You can eliminate all the different > layers in the FopSpeen design diagram, and get your > apps working

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Marc Clifton
> Alexander de Landgraaf from Amsterdam has kicked off > a new project called FopSpeen with the tagline "rich > client web applications for the masses". Actually, I have another comment to make about the FopSpeen project. Why go through all those hoops illustrated in the diagram? Use .NET/Mono f

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Marc Clifton
Alexander writes: "... Give us a small flexible plugin for other browsers and it might work, but it still isn't very likely" Well, a friend of mine is helping to write a plug-in for IE right now, that'll work with MyXaml. After we get the IE plug-in working, we'll take a look at Firefox. He

[xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Alexander de Landgraaf from Amsterdam has kicked off a new project called FopSpeen with the tagline "rich client web applications for the masses". Alexander writes: Much has been said about XUL, however it isn't gaining marketshare or developers. Lack of documentation is often sta