Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-08-15 Thread Ravi Prakash
bq. My stance is that if we're going to publish something, it should be good, or we shouldn't publish it at all. I agree On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > > > On 15 Aug 2017, at 07:14, Andrew Wang wrote: > > > > To close the thread on this, I'll try to summarize the LEGA

Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-08-15 Thread Steve Loughran
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 07:14, Andrew Wang wrote: > > To close the thread on this, I'll try to summarize the LEGAL JIRA. I wasn't > able to convince anyone to make changes to the apache.org docs. > > Convenience binary artifacts are not official release artifacts and thus > are not voted on. Howev

Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-08-14 Thread Andrew Wang
To close the thread on this, I'll try to summarize the LEGAL JIRA. I wasn't able to convince anyone to make changes to the apache.org docs. Convenience binary artifacts are not official release artifacts and thus are not voted on. However, since they are distributed by Apache, they are still subje

Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-07-31 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
It does not. Just adding historical references, as Andrew raised the question. On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Allen Wittenauer wrote: > > ... that doesn't contradict anything I said. > > > On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Konstantin Shvachko > wrote: > > > > The issue was discussed on several occ

Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-07-31 Thread Allen Wittenauer
... that doesn't contradict anything I said. > On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Konstantin Shvachko wrote: > > The issue was discussed on several occasions in the past. > Took me a while to dig this out as an example: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/20.mbox/%3C4EB082

Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-07-31 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
The issue was discussed on several occasions in the past. Took me a while to dig this out as an example: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/20.mbox/%3C4EB0827C.6040204%40apache.org%3E Doug Cutting: "Folks should not primarily evaluate binaries when voting. The ASF primaril

Re: Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-07-31 Thread Allen Wittenauer
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Andrew Wang wrote: > > Forking this off to not distract from release activities. > > I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-323 to get clarity on the > matter. I read the entire webpage, and it could be improved one way or the > other. IAN

Are binary artifacts are part of a release?

2017-07-31 Thread Andrew Wang
Forking this off to not distract from release activities. I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-323 to get clarity on the matter. I read the entire webpage, and it could be improved one way or the other. Best, Andrew On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Mon,