Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox delays?
Hi Joshua,IMO this shift towards tag subscriptions is the product of the UI. Currently there is no other way to subscribe to anything, than going to your inbox and filling out TWO input fields. I think this is the main cause for the inballance. Let me explain. I'm only subscribing to tags of specific users, because I want to get very little, but very good tags. The scenario is usually the following:* link on the front page (yes, I check it quite frequently ... about 10 - 20 times a day) * check out what it refers to* if it's good bookmark it too* go back to the front page and examine that user's tags and explore the ones, that match my interests* so I have to go to 'inbox' - edit inbox - ouch I forgot to remember the user's name - back button 2x - copy username to clipboard, remember the tag name - 'inbox' - edit inbox - paste username and type tag So IMO the problem why people don't really subscribe user/tag intersections is the UI - there is NO 'subscribe this' link on the /user/tagname page.and yes, this is a feature request :)keep up the good work Petr Stedry2006/3/27, Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, the Inbox server is really, really far behind. I put some tweaks in last night and am waiting to see if it is running faster or not. The large problem is that there's a bunch of people who have subscribed to very popular tags (such as web) and get tens of thousands of items in their inbox every day, which they never really get to. In the future I'm going to split up personal subscriptions and tag subscriptions and handle them hopefully. It's pretty odd, there's a very bistable distribution of use - some people subscribe to tags, some subscribe to people, but very few people do a mix. Joshua rkodzik wrote: i've been experiencing severe inbox delays as of late (3-5 days sometimes before a link appears). is this a known bug or currently being worked on? just wondering. i really dig the inbox feature, but the many days of delay is a bit annoying. thanks. R ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___discuss mailing listdiscuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox delays?
Perhaps. However, the imbalance predated that UI as well. Joshua Petr Štědrý wrote: Hi Joshua, IMO this shift towards tag subscriptions is the product of the UI. Currently there is no other way to subscribe to anything, than going to your inbox and filling out TWO input fields. I think this is the main cause for the inballance. Let me explain. I'm only subscribing to tags of specific users, because I want to get very little, but very good tags. The scenario is usually the following: * link on the front page (yes, I check it quite frequently ... about 10 - 20 times a day) * check out what it refers to * if it's good bookmark it too * go back to the front page and examine that user's tags and explore the ones, that match my interests * so I have to go to 'inbox' - edit inbox - ouch I forgot to remember the user's name - back button 2x - copy username to clipboard, remember the tag name - 'inbox' - edit inbox - paste username and type tag So IMO the problem why people don't really subscribe user/tag intersections is the UI - there is NO 'subscribe this' link on the /user/tagname page. and yes, this is a feature request :) keep up the good work Petr Stedry 2006/3/27, Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, the Inbox server is really, really far behind. I put some tweaks in last night and am waiting to see if it is running faster or not. The large problem is that there's a bunch of people who have subscribed to very popular tags (such as "web") and get tens of thousands of items in their inbox every day, which they never really get to. In the future I'm going to split up personal subscriptions and tag subscriptions and handle them hopefully. It's pretty odd, there's a very bistable distribution of use - some people subscribe to tags, some subscribe to people, but very few people do a mix. Joshua rkodzik wrote: i've been experiencing severe inbox delays as of late (3-5 days sometimes before a link appears). is this a known bug or currently being worked on? just wondering. i really dig the inbox feature, but the many days of delay is a bit annoying. thanks. R ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox delays?
i've been experiencing severe inbox delays as of late (3-5 days sometimes before a link appears). is this a known bug or currently being worked on? just wondering. i really dig the inbox feature, but the many days of delay is a bit annoying. thanks. R ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox delays?
Yeah, the Inbox server is really, really far behind. I put some tweaks in last night and am waiting to see if it is running faster or not. The large problem is that there's a bunch of people who have subscribed to very popular tags (such as "web") and get tens of thousands of items in their inbox every day, which they never really get to. In the future I'm going to split up personal subscriptions and tag subscriptions and handle them hopefully. It's pretty odd, there's a very bistable distribution of use - some people subscribe to tags, some subscribe to people, but very few people do a mix. Joshua rkodzik wrote: i've been experiencing severe inbox delays as of late (3-5 days sometimes before a link appears). is this a known bug or currently being worked on? just wondering. i really dig the inbox feature, but the many days of delay is a bit annoying. thanks. R ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] Inbox and antisocial users
Hello. Does the antisocial feature work on the inbox yet? There is a user (ukplumber1) who is tag spamming in a way that ends up in my inbox and it is starting to get really annoying. I have put him on my antisocial list but it doesn't appear to do anything to the inbox. Thank you! -- Michael Hoffman ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] Inbox filtering
I've noticed that bookmarks from people I've been putting in my antisocial list are still being added to my inbox. I can understand previously existing bookmarks still showing up from those users, but even newly created bookmarks from those users are being placed in my inbox. The help text for antisocial indicates the filtering only happens on the home page and the for page. Isn't the inbox something that should be filtered out? Also, would it be at all possible to make it any easier to add people to the antisocial list? Perhaps a block user or block tag from user link when logged in? - siege -- Christopher (siege) O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://preoccupied.net/~siege/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox
we're getting close to moving a bunch of stuff to the yahoo datacenters. when i recreate the inbox on the new machine, i can make it so that a url can show up your inbox only a single time. i think this would a) be faster on our end, b) be nicer on the user end, but c) prevent us from someday doing inbox popularity (which is probably a long way off) any thoughts? -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] Inbox/For indicator suggestion
Title: Inbox/For indicator suggestion Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I had a thought regarding the inbox and for:. Is it possible to have some type of indicator to let you know when there are new items in your inbox/for? As a workflow, it's a bit annoying to remember to check every few hours in the for and inbox to see if there is anything new. An ideal, and minimalist approach would be something like: Your bookmarks | inbox(3) | for(12) | post As the top bar. Meaning 3 new un-visited entries in your inbox, and 12 new bookmarks tagged for: you. This would really be helpful in my situation as we use delicious to share bookmarks among a group of people, and I subscribe to the other users. I guess it would be possible to use RSS to handle this, but it would really be nice to be able to use it plainly through an html interface on any machine without need for RSS setup. Thanks! B This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Inbox/For indicator suggestion
something like this is definitely coming. joshua On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Brendan Frey wrote: Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I had a thought regarding the inbox and for:. Is it possible to have some type of indicator to let you know when there are new items in your inbox/ for? As a workflow, it's a bit annoying to remember to check every few hours in the for and inbox to see if there is anything new. An ideal, and minimalist approach would be something like: Your bookmarks | inbox(3) | for(12) | post As the top bar. Meaning 3 new un-visited entries in your inbox, and 12 new bookmarks tagged for: you. This would really be helpful in my situation as we use delicious to share bookmarks among a group of people, and I subscribe to the other users. I guess it would be possible to use RSS to handle this, but it would really be nice to be able to use it plainly through an html interface on any machine without need for RSS setup. Thanks! B This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] Inbox Empty
Good grief! My inbox is suddenly completely empty. Why would that be? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Fwd: [delicious-discuss] inbox subscriptions
Yeah, I've been missing this feature too. It disappeared sort of gradually. first the tags lost the subscribe button now the users too. I found the feature pretty useful, especially compared to the round about way required to subribe now... On 27/10/05, Tom Flemming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there a limit to the amount of subscriptions one can take out? Somehow the 'subscribe' button seems to have vanished. Best regards, Tom del.icio.us/tomson ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- for more random ideas visit: http://thinkingmachine.blogsome.com -- for more random ideas visit: http://thinkingmachine.blogsome.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox
what is inbox - how do we use it?-- Blog and More- http://theMezz.com50 Free MP3's- http://snipurl.com/hxsz ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox
http://www.google.com/search?q=del.icio.us+inbox leads to http://www.43folders.com/2004/10/19/your-delicious-inbox/ .On 10/31/05, Joe Mezzanini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is inbox - how do we use it?-- Blog and More- http://theMezz.com 50 Free MP3's- http://snipurl.com/hxsz ___discuss mailing listdiscuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss-- http://sridhar.wordpress.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox rss feeds
Hi, I get this: Last-modified header missing -- time-stamps turned off. Amir ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox bookmarks
On 10/24/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really sure what to do with it. I think people mostly use it either a) to subscribe to people or b) to subscribe to tags (but generally not both.) I'm in the both camp, and was drowning, until I discovered what the edit inbox function did, essentially create sub-folders of the inbox that can be inspected individually. Currently I have sub-inboxes named People Acquaintances and Wireless for example. This has made the inbox infinitely more useful... I'd still appreciate the provenance of a link, IE, where, which subscription(s) it came from, but my vote would definitely be to retain it. Even if there is a person method down the track, I hope inbox subscription to a userid is retained. We've got a replacement for subscribing to people coming soon. I'm not sure what to do about subscribing to tags (especially since frequently folks will subscribe to a stack of popular tags, get tens of thousands of items in their inbox daily and never read it at all.) Perhaps updating the inbox could be correlated to the number of visits it receives? We'll probably rename it to subscriptions or nuke it entirely, or something. I would be very cautious about removing functionality, unless it is critical to do so, despite acknowledging the beta status of the service, we have developed habits around the existing facilities. Joshua Hamish. -- http://del.icio.us/Hamish.MacEwan ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox bookmarks
The only problem Ive encountered on del.icio.us is that I am unable to delete items in my Inbox. I can unsubscribe to certain users but it doesnt automatically delete the bookmarks of theirs that were sent to my bookmarks. It would be nice to delete the inboxbookmarks of my choosingwhether I continue to subscribe to that user or not. Thanks, Katiesays17 Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox bookmarks
On 10/24/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure what to do about subscribing to tags (especially since frequently folks will subscribe to a stack of popular tags, get tens of thousands of items in their inbox daily and never read it at all.) This happens with me. I used to subscribe to many interesting tags, but duplicates reduces the utility so much that I hardly bother reading the subscriptions. How much of a performance impact would collapsing duplicates be? (and I'm not sure how that would work with an rss subscription. remove duplicates between viewings? what if someone didn't view the inbox for months?) Oh, and if you keep the inbox, could you put number unread by each tag? I generally read subscriptions via bloglines anyway. it has that feature. -- sheila ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox bookmarks
On 24 Oct 2005, at 09:29, sheila miguez wrote: On 10/24/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure what to do about subscribing to tags (especially since frequently folks will subscribe to a stack of popular tags, get tens of thousands of items in their inbox daily and never read it at all.) This happens with me. I used to subscribe to many interesting tags, but duplicates reduces the utility so much that I hardly bother reading the subscriptions. How much of a performance impact would collapsing duplicates be? (and I'm not sure how that would work with an rss subscription. remove duplicates between viewings? what if someone didn't view the inbox for months?) I use http://deliciousfiltered.stuhlmueller.info/ which works per subscriber and filters out items you've already seen. alf. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox bookmarks
This happens with me. I used to subscribe to many interesting tags, but duplicates reduces the utility so much that I hardly bother reading the subscriptions. How much of a performance impact would collapsing duplicates be? (and I'm not sure how that would work with an rss subscription. remove duplicates between viewings? what if someone didn't view the inbox for months?) practically no performance impact, actually. but popular-within-my-inbox seems like a useful feature. i'm undecided. Oh, and if you keep the inbox, could you put number unread by each tag? I generally read subscriptions via bloglines anyway. it has that feature. how do we tell if an item is read -- remember lots of stuff is read via an RSS reader; it's hard to tell when something has been fetched by human agency or not currently, we do not do any click-tracking; there are ui pros and privacy cons there (although I suppose everyone else does it) joshua ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] inbox bookmarks
J, Actually I subscribe to both specific users and to specific tags. The downside to subscribing to specific tags is that I'm vulnerable to spam when people like: http://del.icio.us/dngrand/ decide to tag their 4 bookmarks with hundreds of tags. Duplicate collapsing would be very useful especially if I can then sort my inbox according to popularity against time -- this lets me find out what's the most popular link amongst the people I'm subscribed to today/this week/etc. On 10/24/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This happens with me. I used to subscribe to many interesting tags, but duplicates reduces the utility so much that I hardly bother reading the subscriptions. How much of a performance impact would collapsing duplicates be? (and I'm not sure how that would work with an rss subscription. remove duplicates between viewings? what if someone didn't view the inbox for months?) practically no performance impact, actually. but popular-within-my-inbox seems like a useful feature. i'm undecided. Oh, and if you keep the inbox, could you put number unread by each tag? I generally read subscriptions via bloglines anyway. it has that feature. how do we tell if an item is read -- remember lots of stuff is read via an RSS reader; it's hard to tell when something has been fetched by human agency or not currently, we do not do any click-tracking; there are ui pros and privacy cons there (although I suppose everyone else does it) joshua ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox management
I'm using del.icio.us for about a week it's really usefull and nice my question is will my inbox grow endless ? it would be nice to remove entries (single and all as well) it would be nice to define an expirantion time period Johannes ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] inbox anyway I like to remove single entries and keep others for later evaluation
The inbox tries to remember the last 500, although it occasionally grows to 1000. On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Johannes Marat wrote: I'm using del.icio.us for about a week it's really usefull and nice my question is will my inbox grow endless ? it would be nice to remove entries (single and all as well) it would be nice to define an expirantion time period Johannes ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
