[yocto] Installation of i686 SDK on a x86_64 machine?

2013-01-22 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Hi,

in previous releases it ha always been possible to install a SDK
configured for a i686 machine on both x86 and x86_64 systems.

Since commit c04f5435 populate_sdk_base.bbclass: use SDK_ARCH instead
of SDKMACHINE this does not work any more; instead, installation will
abort with Error: Installation machine not supported!

++ uname -m
++ sed -e 's/i[3-6]86/ix86/' -e 's/x86[-_]64/x86_64/'
+ INST_ARCH=x86_64
++ echo i686
++ sed -e 's/i[5-6]86/ix86/'
+ SDK_ARCH=ix86
+ '[' x86_64 '!=' ix86 ']'
+ echo 'Error: Installation machine not supported!'
Error: Installation machine not supported!
+ exit -1


Is this intended behaviour (and if so, why?) or rather a bug that
should be reported and fixed?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [yocto] Installation of i686 SDK on a x86_64 machine?

2013-01-22 Thread Laurentiu Palcu
Hi Wolfgang,

On 01/22/2013 09:16 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
 Hi,
 
 in previous releases it ha always been possible to install a SDK
 configured for a i686 machine on both x86 and x86_64 systems.
 
 Since commit c04f5435 populate_sdk_base.bbclass: use SDK_ARCH instead
 of SDKMACHINE this does not work any more; instead, installation will
 abort with Error: Installation machine not supported!
 
 ++ uname -m
 ++ sed -e 's/i[3-6]86/ix86/' -e 's/x86[-_]64/x86_64/'
 + INST_ARCH=x86_64
 ++ echo i686
 ++ sed -e 's/i[5-6]86/ix86/'
 + SDK_ARCH=ix86
 + '[' x86_64 '!=' ix86 ']'
 + echo 'Error: Installation machine not supported!'
 Error: Installation machine not supported!
 + exit -1
 
 
 Is this intended behaviour (and if so, why?) or rather a bug that
 should be reported and fixed?
This is the intended behavior. Please check:
https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3269

Also, this thread:
http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2012-November/031519.html

If people really need to install SDK tarballs intended for other hosts
than the SDK was built for (i686 on x86_64 or vice-versa), we could add
a -f flag to force installation and show an error message like this:

Error: Installation machine not supported! Use -f to force installation.

Thanks,
Laurentiu

 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Wolfgang Denk
 
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Re: [yocto] Installation of i686 SDK on a x86_64 machine?

2013-01-22 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Laurentiu,

In message 50fe4900.7020...@intel.com you wrote:
 
  in previous releases it ha always been possible to install a SDK
  configured for a i686 machine on both x86 and x86_64 systems.
  
  Since commit c04f5435 populate_sdk_base.bbclass: use SDK_ARCH instead
  of SDKMACHINE this does not work any more; instead, installation will
  abort with Error: Installation machine not supported!
...

  Is this intended behaviour (and if so, why?) or rather a bug that
  should be reported and fixed?
 This is the intended behavior. Please check:
 https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3269

Sorry, but this bug is about a different problem - the fix overshoots
the mark.

The following combinations of SDK_ARCH and INST_ARCH are possible and
relevant here:

Id  SDK_ARCHINST_ARCH   Status
==
1   ix86ix86works
2   ix86x86_64  works
3   x86_64  ix86cannot work
4   x86_64  x86_64  works

The bug report is about case 3 - attempting to install a 64 bit SDK on
a 32 bit machine.  This indeed cannot work and shuld be prevented byy
the installer.

But the current code also prevents case 2, installing 32 bit images on
a 64 bit machine, which works perfectly fine (assuming you have the
needed 32 bit libraries installed).

For any distribution it is very convenient to provide only one set of
images (configured for ix86), as these images will work both on 32 and
64 bit systems.

I consider it a major drawback if you intentionally prevent such use.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [yocto] Installation of i686 SDK on a x86_64 machine?

2013-01-22 Thread Laurentiu Palcu


On 01/22/2013 11:03 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
 IdSDK_ARCHINST_ARCH   Status
 ==
 1 ix86ix86works
 2 ix86x86_64  works
 3 x86_64  ix86cannot work
 4 x86_64  x86_64  works
 
 The bug report is about case 3 - attempting to install a 64 bit SDK on
 a 32 bit machine.  This indeed cannot work and shuld be prevented byy
 the installer.
 
 But the current code also prevents case 2, installing 32 bit images on
 a 64 bit machine, which works perfectly fine (assuming you have the
 needed 32 bit libraries installed).

I see your point. Would you please file a bug on this?

Thanks,
Laurentiu
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Re: [yocto] Installation of i686 SDK on a x86_64 machine?

2013-01-22 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Laurentiu,

In message 50fe5f87.4060...@intel.com you wrote:
 
  Id  SDK_ARCHINST_ARCH   Status
  ==
  1   ix86ix86works
  2   ix86x86_64  works
  3   x86_64  ix86cannot work
  4   x86_64  x86_64  works
  
  The bug report is about case 3 - attempting to install a 64 bit SDK on
  a 32 bit machine.  This indeed cannot work and shuld be prevented byy
  the installer.
  
  But the current code also prevents case 2, installing 32 bit images on
  a 64 bit machine, which works perfectly fine (assuming you have the
  needed 32 bit libraries installed).
 
 I see your point. Would you please file a bug on this?

Done, with a patch included.

Please see https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3770

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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