Sente and Yojimbo

2007-05-07 Thread Karen Holdeman
Has anyone used Sente and Yojimbo together to categorize biomedical  
research articles?  I have several hundred articles downloaded and  
filed in folders in Finder which I would like to put in Yojimbo with  
tags. However, by moving them to Yojimbo , Sente can no longer open  
them. Sente (from third street software) is a bibliography search,  
file, and format application. It also files articles downloaded, but  
I have not found a good way to link already downloaded articles to  
it. Sente will search my hard drive and find an article in its  
bibliography database using Spotlight, and will find articles that I  
have filed in Yojimbo, but will not open them. Ideally, I would like  
Sente to be able to find the article, and when I click on the PDF  
icon within Sente, either open the article in Preview, or in Yojimbo,  
but instead, nothing happens, even if I have not deleted the article  
from the Finder.


Thanks.

Karen


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Dates created and modified

2007-05-07 Thread Ross Winn
Can I chime in too? Maybe only allowing the creation date to be  
modified. I don't know, but it is an interesting question. What  
really pisses me off is that the creation and mod dates aren't  
supported for backup and restore. When I expert all of my items,  
since Yojimbo has no convenient backup feature, all of that info is  
lost.


I used to review a lot of software, it was how I found Yojimbo  
actually, when my system started crashing regularly I simply wiped  
and reinstalled - but when reimporting all of those items that  
metadata was lost. Two years worth (it has been a couple years,  
hasn't it).


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Re: Sente and Yojimbo

2007-05-07 Thread Niels Kobschätzki

On 5/7/07, Karen Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip open PDF in Yojimbo from an external application

That shouldn't be possible because Yojimbo doesn't keep a file in the
file system but copies it into its database. Spotlight will find a
Yojimbo-item but from the way I understand it that's more or less a
link to an entry (and behind that entry is a link to the file in the
database). I guees if you don't do it this way sync will break because
Yojimbo can sync its own database but I guess sync services doesn't
offer to sync any files in the file system (for that there's stuff
like chrono sync).
I would like to see it as well that I can link from Bibdesk to PDFs in
Yojimbo but that's not possible because of the structure of Yojimbo.

Niels

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Re: Sente and Yojimbo

2007-05-07 Thread Steve Kalkwarf

That shouldn't be possible because Yojimbo doesn't keep a file in the
file system but copies it into its database. Spotlight will find a
Yojimbo-item but from the way I understand it that's more or less a
link to an entry (and behind that entry is a link to the file in the
database). I guees if you don't do it this way sync will break because
Yojimbo can sync its own database but I guess sync services doesn't
offer to sync any files in the file system (for that there's stuff
like chrono sync).
I would like to see it as well that I can link from Bibdesk to PDFs in
Yojimbo but that's not possible because of the structure of Yojimbo.


I don't know the other products you folks are talking about, but 
if they can refer to an item by URL, you can create a Yojimbo 
URL with the Edit-Copy Item Link menu item. This will give you 
a URL of the form:


x-yojimbo-item://3D2206E9-8110-47F0-A113-51AA5E2C8597

Otherwise, your observation that Yojimbo copies its items into 
the database is correct, and they cannot be seen by other 
applications without a lot of trickery on their part.


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Re: Dates created and modified

2007-05-07 Thread Derik DeLong

Couldn't you just back up Yojimbo's database?

On 5/7/07, Ross Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can I chime in too? Maybe only allowing the creation date to be
modified. I don't know, but it is an interesting question. What
really pisses me off is that the creation and mod dates aren't
supported for backup and restore. When I expert all of my items,
since Yojimbo has no convenient backup feature, all of that info is
lost.

I used to review a lot of software, it was how I found Yojimbo
actually, when my system started crashing regularly I simply wiped
and reinstalled - but when reimporting all of those items that
metadata was lost. Two years worth (it has been a couple years,
hasn't it).

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Re: Sente and Yojimbo

2007-05-07 Thread Lee Shewchuk
Have you seen Papers yet for managing your articles - it's great  
especially for medical research (it automatically grabs all the  
keywords from PubMed - but you can add your own as well).

http://mekentosj.com/papers/


On 7-May-07, at 8:31 AM, Karen Holdeman wrote:

Has anyone used Sente and Yojimbo together to categorize biomedical  
research articles?  I have several hundred articles downloaded and  
filed in folders in Finder which I would like to put in Yojimbo  
with tags. However, by moving them to Yojimbo , Sente can no longer  
open them. Sente (from third street software) is a bibliography  
search, file, and format application. It also files articles  
downloaded, but I have not found a good way to link already  
downloaded articles to it. Sente will search my hard drive and find  
an article in its bibliography database using Spotlight, and will  
find articles that I have filed in Yojimbo, but will not open them.  
Ideally, I would like Sente to be able to find the article, and  
when I click on the PDF icon within Sente, either open the article  
in Preview, or in Yojimbo, but instead, nothing happens, even if I  
have not deleted the article from the Finder.


Thanks.

Karen


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