Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
On 12/22/07, Jan Pieter Kunst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/22, TjL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A LAN sync for Yojimbo would make this a very merry Christmas... Just read on the Mark/Space site that a Leopard-compatible update for SyncTogether is forthcoming: https://www.markspace.com/leopard.html Note: LAN syncing with SyncTogether is not without its problems either, but my impression is that it is more reliable than .Mac syncing. It would be hard to be less reliable than .Mac in my experience. I'm giving serious thought to manually merging the database once and then just setting up an email-to-Yojimbo that will work on my iMac and send stuff from the other computers to it. TjL -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
On 12/21/07, Rob Pluta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed that it's not a Yojimbo issue per se. The issue is a Sync Services issue and Apple needs to get this right. Wait, let me call Steve now:-) You think you have problems with .mac? Try syncing a BlackBerry... Yes, I tried syncing a Palm for a long time and it never worked right. The difference here is that the Yojimbo is freakin' huge. Trying to sync that and having it fail is slow painful. Maybe 10.5.2 will do what that last dozen updates have failed to do and make dot-Mac/sync services work better. A LAN sync for Yojimbo would make this a very merry Christmas... TjL -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
Well, I backed up the library, and tried this method, and it didn't work. I was able to get my libraries to match up, but they would still not sync. I added test items to each library to see if they would populate to the others, and they did not. I even just tried creating a new user on my laptop and syncing it to dotmac. Presumably that would work just as if it was another machine that had never had YJ installed, and there should be no conflicts or issues. But still nothing was added to the empty library on syncing. The odd thing about this is whenever I try to sync anew (whether by resetting sync services or creating a new user), I get all kinds of 50% warnings and conflicting data dialogue boxes, even with new libraries. I don't know how there can be conflicting data between an empty library and the dotmac one, but there it is. Still no word from BB. I sent sync logs to them two days ago, without response. Andrew On Dec 19, 2007 4:50 PM, Jan Pieter Kunst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/19, Andrew Janjigian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JP - I have considered this option, but I worried that somehow the copied library would make things worse; if the syncing mechanism saw the items in the copied library as new, it would then duplicate them across the machines. I could end up with as many copies of each item as I have machines. But you say that it worked for you, so maybe I should give it a try. At this point, however, while I await an official response, I'm just interested in hearing thoughts of people on the list. Thanks Andrew Well, whatever you do, be sure to keep a backup copy of your good library somewhere safe. Good luck, Jan Pieter -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
I too have had no end of sync problems since I upgraded to Yojimbo 1.5 I have tried resetting various sync options, etc. etc.. In my case dotmacsyncclient and/or Yojimbo crashes every time a sync is attempted, normally after a long time running and whilst consuming considerable system resources making it near impossible to work on the machine while it goes on. (And no, leaving it alone doesn't help. It still crashes.) I have even tried to start it is SHIFT-held-down mode to avoid interference from some random plugin or application, but no joy. I'm getting desperate. Do I have to roll back to pre-1.5 and lose data entered since then? Would that even help, or is the .Mac sync registry terminally munged by the repeated failures? I turned off every synced application but Contacts to see if I could get something that simple to work, but even it has problems now and takes 35 to 45 minutes to attempt to sync some 50 contacts, so I suspect the .Mac sync registry is permanently damaged, and I have no clue as to how to reset it. At this point I can no longer recommend Yojimbo (previously my favorite application) and I strongly urge anybody who has not yet upgraded to 1.5 to hold off upgrading until the problems have been solved. So far I have wasted 15+ hours trying to get this to work, and the time Yojimbo has saved me over the month is rapidly being neutralized. What is worse, I don't dare enter new data into the database since I suspect I have to do a rollback unless this is resolved ASAP. --j PS Yes, I have submitted crash logs and machine configurations to barebones. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
On Dec 20, 2007 6:26 AM, Robert Sweet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You're not alone, but I have no advice. Leopard kinda sucks. Nice to know it isn't just me... sort of. I haven't upgraded to Leopard yet, so I'm quite sure this is all due to Yojimbo 1.5, although I guess there could be interactions with the recent security patches pushed by apple to the 1.4.x users. None of this makes me happy. [sigh] I wish Barebones would issue some statement as to where things stand. Currently the FAQ at http://faq.barebones.com/do_getanswer.php?record_id=138 still reads in part: Please start by taking the following steps. 1. Update to Mac OS X 10.4.9 (if you haven't already) by downloading and installing the combo update. 2. Make sure the latest version of Yojimbo (currently 1.4.2) is installed on all your Macs. so as we all can see, this hasn't been updated recently. --j -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
Although specific sync problems may still occur, we are not currently aware of any general syncing issues related to either Yojimbo 1.5 *or* to Leopard. If you've already contacted us, thanks and we appreciate your patience. If you are having syncing trouble and have not contacted us, please do; we can't help unless we're aware it's needed. :-) Finally, please bear in mind that as always, the plural of anecdote is not data. :-) Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc.http://www.barebones.com P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048 -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
Thank you for your reply. I have already submitted crash logs for both Yojimbo and dotmacsyncclient as well as a detailed report of my system configuration. Pleas feel free to contact me if you have specific things you want me to try and I will do the best I can and provide relevant logs and configurations. --j -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
Johan Strandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07-12-20 05.58 At this point I can no longer recommend Yojimbo (previously my favorite application) and I strongly urge anybody who has not yet upgraded to 1.5 to hold off upgrading until the problems have been solved. I'm not sure that it's Yojimbo that is at fault, there have been some problems with .Mac syncing in general (personally I have a number of sync conflicts in some of the apps, I don't which ones, I sync but when I try to get it resolved there is nothing to be resolved ... ). jem -- Jan Erik Moström, www.mostrom.pp.se -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
On 20.12.2007, at 15:03, Jan Erik Moström wrote: Johan Strandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07-12-20 05.58 At this point I can no longer recommend Yojimbo (previously my favorite application) and I strongly urge anybody who has not yet upgraded to 1.5 to hold off upgrading until the problems have been solved. I'm not sure that it's Yojimbo that is at fault, there have been some problems with .Mac syncing in general (personally I have a number of sync conflicts in some of the apps, I don't which ones, I sync but when I try to get it resolved there is nothing to be resolved ... ). Since I upgraded both of my computers to Leopard, everytime I sync ALL my keychain items will be synced. Back and forth, back and forth... It works, but I have to confirm the 25% dialog all the time. .Mac certainly has issues. Yojimbo items synced fine all the time. Sebastian -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
JohanStrandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] sez: Finally, please bear in mind that as always, the plural of anecdote is not data. :-) Well. There is nothing anecdotal about what I have written above. I am strictly writing about my personal first hand experiences. Frankly, they suck enough as they are without knowing that others might have similar experiences. I will do what it takes to provide you with additional hard data, but I do not appreciate being dismissed as just passing along anecdotes about my problems. My observation was not directed at any particular individual situation, and I regret if you took it as such. Rather, I mean that as a reminder that although specific problems may do arise from various sources, their existence does not automatically imply there is a general issue. Or, to put it more concretely, even if I got a flat tire this morning, that doesn't mean everyone else driving in to work is likely to. :-) Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc.http://www.barebones.com P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048 -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
I am glad (sorry to say) to hear that I am not the only one out there with these issues. I have had numerous sync problems since the 1.5 upgrade, as I said earlier. I was however able to clear up the problems I was having with all dotmac apps OTHER than Yojimbo by following the method described here (for Leopard users): http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306484 This was the suggested solution to my YJ problems from BB Support, but it did nothing at all in that case. I have applied it repeatedly without effect. For all other apps, I suggest disabling syncing for YJ and leaving it be while you get the other apps syncing as desired. This article MAY help with those using Tiger, though it is a lot less straighforward: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306122 Andrew On Dec 20, 2007 9:35 AM, Johan™Strandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 20, 2007 6:26 AM, Robert Sweet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You're not alone, but I have no advice. Leopard kinda sucks. Nice to know it isn't just me... sort of. I haven't upgraded to Leopard yet, so I'm quite sure this is all due to Yojimbo 1.5, although I guess there could be interactions with the recent security patches pushed by apple to the 1.4.x users. None of this makes me happy. [sigh] I wish Barebones would issue some statement as to where things stand. Currently the FAQ at http://faq.barebones.com/do_getanswer.php?record_id=138 still reads in part: Please start by taking the following steps. 1. Update to Mac OS X 10.4.9 (if you haven't already) by downloading and installing the combo update. 2. Make sure the latest version of Yojimbo (currently 1.4.2) is installed on all your Macs. so as we all can see, this hasn't been updated recently. --j -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
2007/12/20, Andrew Janjigian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I backed up the library, and tried this method, and it didn't work. I was able to get my libraries to match up, but they would still not sync. I added test items to each library to see if they would populate to the others, and they did not. Perhaps I should add that my environment was somewhat different: two machines, both running Tiger, and syncing using SyncTogether and not .Mac. With this setup, I do have to repeat a Sync command every now and then to make the changes show up. My (unscientific) impression is that SyncTogether is somewhat better at syncing Yojimbo items than .Mac is. Unfortunately it doesn't work with Leopard and there is no update in sight yet. JP -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
2007/12/19, Andrew Janjigian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone here have any suggestions on how to proceed? I very much doubt that I can give better advice than the Barebones staff. However, if I were in your shoes, I would not try to fill the empty libraries by syncing them. I would copy the 'good' library manually to the machines that need them, reset any syncing business, and start over with a clean slate. It's what I did before I started syncing between my desktop and laptop. JP -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
JP - I have considered this option, but I worried that somehow the copied library would make things worse; if the syncing mechanism saw the items in the copied library as new, it would then duplicate them across the machines. I could end up with as many copies of each item as I have machines. But you say that it worked for you, so maybe I should give it a try. At this point, however, while I await an official response, I'm just interested in hearing thoughts of people on the list. Thanks Andrew On Dec 19, 2007 4:33 PM, Jan Pieter Kunst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/19, Andrew Janjigian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone here have any suggestions on how to proceed? I very much doubt that I can give better advice than the Barebones staff. However, if I were in your shoes, I would not try to fill the empty libraries by syncing them. I would copy the 'good' library manually to the machines that need them, reset any syncing business, and start over with a clean slate. It's what I did before I started syncing between my desktop and laptop. JP -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scrapping Synced libraries and starting over?
2007/12/19, Andrew Janjigian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JP - I have considered this option, but I worried that somehow the copied library would make things worse; if the syncing mechanism saw the items in the copied library as new, it would then duplicate them across the machines. I could end up with as many copies of each item as I have machines. But you say that it worked for you, so maybe I should give it a try. At this point, however, while I await an official response, I'm just interested in hearing thoughts of people on the list. Thanks Andrew Well, whatever you do, be sure to keep a backup copy of your good library somewhere safe. Good luck, Jan Pieter -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
