Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On 2008-05-01, at 04:44, Charlie Garrison wrote: Good afternoon, On 30/4/08 at 5:31 PM -0400, Luis Roca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature in the next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!! How refreshing, thanks Luis. :-) I'm also another very satisfied Yojimbo user. When I first started using it, I was creating collections and diligently filing new items. I never use collections now. The search field is way more flexible and very quick. I just add items to Y and trust they will be there when I need them. The content/indexing of items is generally enough to search on (for bookmarks I will often grab the first paragraph of the page to add to comment field). And even though I was using tags religiously, I've even stopped doing that expect for rare circumstances. Yojimbo is my knowledge base, and I've never had any trouble finding info I need. Well, that's not true, I have had problems but it's my own fault for not having moved everything from DevonTHINK yet. So if it's info from that long ago, I fire up DevonTHINK, find the info I was missing, and add it to Yojimbo. And for everyone else who feels they MUST continue asking for the kitchen sink, Please read the last two lines of the sig on every message on this list. I want to use this list to learn how to better use the program we have, not speculate on how an excellent program can maybe improve marginally. Hi all, well I see that everybody are very heppy using Yojimbo, which is good. I am also happy Yojimbo user, and I am still trying to get used to pholosophy of personal management in Yojimbo. It is getting more and more suited for my needs, but when you are using such kind of program you need more and more. I don't want to have big application for everything, but some features IMHO need to be implemented if Yojimbo want to be on top of today personal management application market. Now we have centrilized iCal/TODO store in the Leopard for instance, we have more and more multimedia staff on our HDD so the list of smart collection is growing and growing and tha last, but no least tagging. Would be really nice to have all the home brewed apple scripts implemented in Yojimbo to do PDF Save with tags, automatically tag the items when you drag them to the smart collection, import NetNewsWire webpages with tags etc. Now you have to look throught the Internet sites to find the proper script or try do it by yourself right? So why do not implement all these functionalities to Yojimbo? Krzysztof Maj -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
On May 2, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: When the focus is in the collections panel, pressing tab should take me to the list of documents, not to the little buttons below the collections panel. [snip] Next TAB should go to the title, then tags, then content (NOT to the rarely used Encrypt button!) [snip] When creating new documents using the little dialog box in the corner of the screen, I don't want to TAB over the little arrow button next to the Name, I want to go straight to tags and then the text. I don't see this behavior on my system. Perhaps you have All controls enabled for the Full keyboard access preference in System Preferences - Keyboard Mouse - Keyboard Shortcuts? I dare you to try using Yojimbo without a mouse. Put a quarter in a coin box every time you have to reach for the mouse to do something or every time an extra key press is needed. Hmm, I don't really see a problem here. I use Yojimbo with just the keyboard all the time. The only case where there *might* be an issue is tabbing from the search field to the sidebar rather than directly to the list view. Other than that, everything seems to work as expected. -Dennis -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
Thanks for your response Steve, great to have some direct answers from the guy who kicked it all off :o) Now, naturally, I want more! :o) In the past I've drawn a distinction between 'nested folders' and a means to group collections in the sidebar. I see these as distinct things and I've copied the original post below where I go into more detail on the issue. My question is, do you see these as one and the same or would you consider the latter as a different feature request. To me nested folders means hierarchical organisation and I'd be the first to agree this is not necessary, I'd be interested in your view on the matter. I appreciate there's more than one way to skin a cat and to my mind a different approach to tag navigation could obviate the need for this, but as an interface designer myself I'm keeping my cards close to my chest on that one as I have a particular solution in mind for a project of my own! ;o) Regards, T. Extract from that previous post… Tag collection grouping OK, hopefully no one thinks I'm trying to pull a fast one and change the name of the game from 'nested folders' but on reviewing the previous threads again I think the debate gets sidetracked into one of hierarchy vs. tagging - a fine debate in it's own right but not really what I'm after as a feature request. I'm really very happy with tag search approach for many things, but for quick reference and ad-hoc corralling of tagged information I use tag collections extensively. I have a lot of them, too many to be easily reviewable in one long multi-page scrolling list - not (I'll pre-empt the inevitable response) in some vain attempt to re-impose an old fashioned hierarchy, but simply to take advantage of the benefits of tagging for the purposes of browsing (as opposed to searching). It is a pain to only be able to sort these tag collections alphabetically (even with alpha-numeric prefixes) in one long list. The long and short of it is that, for whatever reason, i have a lot of tag collections, all I really need is a more control over how they are organised and presented, a single level of grouping would do just fine. I can see how this could cause ambiguity leading to an impression of support for deep hierarchy but i doubt this is insurmountable - perhaps some judicious use of naming to conceptually divorce 'tag collections' from 'collections' and a visually distinct icon to further distinguish the concepts might overcome this problem? Or maybe separating smart collections, collections, and tag collections with sub-titles in the sidebar as iTunes does would do the trick? On 1 May 2008, at 14:20, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: I'm not singling out Rhet, but there are several ideas embodied in this paragraph that bear comment: If someone from BareBones does pipe in, it's usually to say We're never going to add that feature. See previous post... This compares poorly to several other indie-Mac software lists I'm on (such as the forum for Leap and Yep, both excellent applications: http://www.ironicsoftware.com/) where the developer is happy to get feedback on what users actually want and participates in the dialogue. Let me start off by saying no matter what I, or another Bare Bones representative says, a large number of people will be unhappy. For years we said Thanks for the feedback, and we'll consider adding this functionality. Then, email every time we shipped an update we'd get a reminder email, asking why the feature wasn't in that version. Other people waited and waited for the feature to arrive, but it wasn't going to. I thought that was unfair. Now, if a feature request has a known disposition, we generally share that answer. Nested folders? No. If you _have_ to have that feature, you will be better off elsewhere. Does this compare poorly with other companies? I don't know. I prefer the honest answer, whether it makes people happy or not. Another assumption (again, not picking on Rhet) is that implementing every feature request is a good idea. If you take a step back and look at the types of requests people make, with rare exception (nested folders, smart collections, better tag management) they are particular to the requester's existing workflow. The one feature I have to have is not the one feature you have to have, or Charlie has to have, or probably more than a couple people have to have. The implied assumption that tends to go along with almost any request is that adding feature X doesn't increase the complexity of Yojimbo. That is untrue. In a past life, I spent countless hours helping novice Mac users find the files they had lost, because they had no idea where they were saving, or because they saved all their files in the Word folder, and when they updated Word, lost everything. The average computer user is overwhelmed by choices, and as simple as this sounds,
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
Good afternoon, On 1/5/08 at 12:04 AM -0400, Jerry Weldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, I want to be able to have multiple self-contained library databases. This would not add any complexity whatsoever for those who like Yojimbo the way it is--they can simply continue using one monolithic library--but it would add an order of magnitude of usefulness for me, and I suspect for others as well. There is another software package, can't recall the name of it right now, which will manage multiple prefs/databases/whatever for programs that are not designed around 'documents'. You should be able to use that to have multiple databases for Yojimbo. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On 2008-05-01, at 04:44, Charlie Garrison wrote: Good afternoon, On 30/4/08 at 5:31 PM -0400, Luis Roca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature in the next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!! How refreshing, thanks Luis. :-) I'm also another very satisfied Yojimbo user. When I first started using it, I was creating collections and diligently filing new items. I never use collections now. The search field is way more flexible and very quick. I just add items to Y and trust they will be there when I need them. The content/indexing of items is generally enough to search on (for bookmarks I will often grab the first paragraph of the page to add to comment field). And even though I was using tags religiously, I've even stopped doing that expect for rare circumstances. Yojimbo is my knowledge base, and I've never had any trouble finding info I need. Well, that's not true, I have had problems but it's my own fault for not having moved everything from DevonTHINK yet. So if it's info from that long ago, I fire up DevonTHINK, find the info I was missing, and add it to Yojimbo. And for everyone else who feels they MUST continue asking for the kitchen sink, Please read the last two lines of the sig on every message on this list. I want to use this list to learn how to better use the program we have, not speculate on how an excellent program can maybe improve marginally. Hi all, well I see that everybody are very heppy using Yojimbo, which is good. I am also happy Yojimbo user, and I am still trying to get used to pholosophy of personal management in Yojimbo. It is getting more and more suited for my needs, but when you are using such kind of program you need more and more. I don't want to have big application for everything, but some features IMHO need to be implemented if Yojimbo want to be on top of today personal management application market. Now we have centrilized iCal/TODO store in the Leopard for instance, we have more and more multimedia staff on our HDD so the list of smart collection is growing and growing and tha last, but no least tagging. Would be really nice to have all the home brewed apple scripts implemented in Yojimbo to do PDF Save with tags, automatically tag the items when you drag them to the smart collection, import NetNewsWire webpages with tags etc. Now you have to look throught the Internet sites to find the proper script or try do it by yourself right? So why do not implement all these functionalities to Yojimbo? Krzysztof Maj -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
There is another software package, can't recall the name of it right now, which will manage multiple prefs/databases/whatever for programs that are rooSwitch http://roobasoft.com/rooSwitch/ --Rhet On 5/1/08, Charlie Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good afternoon, On 1/5/08 at 12:04 AM -0400, Jerry Weldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, I want to be able to have multiple self-contained library databases. This would not add any complexity whatsoever for those who like Yojimbo the way it is--they can simply continue using one monolithic library--but it would add an order of magnitude of usefulness for me, and I suspect for others as well. There is another software package, can't recall the name of it right now, which will manage multiple prefs/databases/whatever for programs that are not designed around 'documents'. You should be able to use that to have multiple databases for Yojimbo. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
I'm not singling out Rhet, but there are several ideas embodied in this paragraph that bear comment: If someone from BareBones does pipe in, it's usually to say We're never going to add that feature. See previous post... This compares poorly to several other indie-Mac software lists I'm on (such as the forum for Leap and Yep, both excellent applications: http://www.ironicsoftware.com/) where the developer is happy to get feedback on what users actually want and participates in the dialogue. Let me start off by saying no matter what I, or another Bare Bones representative says, a large number of people will be unhappy. For years we said Thanks for the feedback, and we'll consider adding this functionality. Then, email every time we shipped an update we'd get a reminder email, asking why the feature wasn't in that version. Other people waited and waited for the feature to arrive, but it wasn't going to. I thought that was unfair. Now, if a feature request has a known disposition, we generally share that answer. Nested folders? No. If you _have_ to have that feature, you will be better off elsewhere. Does this compare poorly with other companies? I don't know. I prefer the honest answer, whether it makes people happy or not. Another assumption (again, not picking on Rhet) is that implementing every feature request is a good idea. If you take a step back and look at the types of requests people make, with rare exception (nested folders, smart collections, better tag management) they are particular to the requester's existing workflow. The one feature I have to have is not the one feature you have to have, or Charlie has to have, or probably more than a couple people have to have. The implied assumption that tends to go along with almost any request is that adding feature X doesn't increase the complexity of Yojimbo. That is untrue. In a past life, I spent countless hours helping novice Mac users find the files they had lost, because they had no idea where they were saving, or because they saved all their files in the Word folder, and when they updated Word, lost everything. The average computer user is overwhelmed by choices, and as simple as this sounds, every feature or menu item represents a choice. By no means am I the authority on simplicity vs. complexity, but our goal was to make Yojimbo powerful, yet simple to use. Another interesting belief carried by most power users (and I include myself in this group) is that they are representative of all users. This can't be farther from the truth. Everybody on this list sees the mailing list posts. I see those, and tech support inquiries. There are more support inquires than there are posts on this list. Way more. I can assure you that everyone on this list is head and shoulders above most customers writing in for help. If you made it this far, thanks for reading. As your reward, a summary of the popular requests, and their status: Nested folders: Sorry, no. Smart collections: Yes, near the top of the list. Better tagging interactions: Nearer the top of the list. Stuff nobody has asked for: At the top of the list. And before anyone asks why stuff nobody asked for is higher up than the one feature I have to have, remember, nobody asked us to write Yojimbo, either. Updates to other Bare Bones products: What do you think we've been doing since the last Yojimbo update? :-) Steve -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
On May 1, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: If you made it this far, thanks for reading. As your reward, a summary of the popular requests, and their status: In fact, it's the first post I've read FULLY for quite a while. Thanks! Updates to other Bare Bones products: What do you think we've been doing since the last Yojimbo update? :-) Well, as they say on Law Order, you opened the door. So, this begs the question: I don't know, what HAVE you been doing with Mailsmith? I paid for Mailsmith a long long time ago. And I haven't used it in a long time. I understand your comments about the one feature I have to have, but ... IMAP. -- Sherman -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[admin] Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
Sorry for the interruption, but as a reminder, this is *Yojimbo-Talk* :-) Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc.http://www.barebones.com P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048 Sherman Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] sez: On May 1, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: If you made it this far, thanks for reading. As your reward, a summary of the popular requests, and their status: In fact, it's the first post I've read FULLY for quite a while. Thanks! Updates to other Bare Bones products: What do you think we've been doing since the last Yojimbo update? :-) Well, as they say on Law Order, you opened the door. So, this begs the question: I don't know, what HAVE you been doing with Mailsmith? I paid for Mailsmith a long long time ago. And I haven't used it in a long time. I understand your comments about the one feature I have to have, but ... IMAP. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
On 01. May. 08, at 17:04 , Steve Kalkwarf wrote: For reasons far to detailed to go into, multiple libraries and .Mac syncing cannot co-exist. Trust me on this one. This is interesting. Is this a (current) limitation of .mac syncing that is associated with SQL CoreData libraries ? I can think of other 3rd party apps that can sync multiple entities over .mac, but perhaps they all have a different data storage model ? Until you made this statement, I was thinking^[1] that this could work as long as all libraries had unique names/IDs. Mark. [1]: FWIW, this is something for which I anticipate a need in certain apps (e.g. Things) with which I work from more than one machine, but not in Yojimbo. I use Yojimbo (perhaps as intended) for storing everything in one place, rather than e.g. keeping private and professional apart. (Maybe the difference is that I retrieve from Yojimbo, but (in this example) work in Things. Clutter in Yojimbo would only be a problem if it prevented me from finding something. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
On May 1, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: snip If you made it this far, thanks for reading. As your reward, a summary of the popular requests, and their status: Nested folders: Sorry, no. Smart collections: Yes, near the top of the list. Better tagging interactions: Nearer the top of the list. Stuff nobody has asked for: At the top of the list. And before anyone asks why stuff nobody asked for is higher up than the one feature I have to have, remember, nobody asked us to write Yojimbo, either. If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a better horse. - Henry Ford, industrialist (1863–1947) Updates to other Bare Bones products: What do you think we've been doing since the last Yojimbo update? :-) Is Yojimbo the One True App? No. Doth it rock, nevertheless? Yes it does. Thanks for making it, thanks for continuing to improve it, and I'm looking forward to the next release... -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/203.3198 (m) -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Effective Feature Requesting (Was: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!)
On Apr 29, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Keith Ledbetter wrote: On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Not to pick on Keith (at all)... It's almost universal that people who want something new or changed in a piece of software offer a solution (nested collections, for example) rather than an explanation of the problem they're trying to solve that they think their solution addresses. Since the developers have a much deeper, broader and nuanced awareness of what is and is not possible (or even desirable) than the public at large does, it's in best interest of you, as the person who want the change, to couch the request in terms of what you want to achieve rather than the method you imagine would allow you achieve the goal you have in mind. Engineers LOVE to solve problems... One of the biggest challenges in the world of the Decider of What the New Version Does is inverting all these solution requests into problems. My 67¢ (used to be 2¢, but with the devaluation of the peso, I mean dollar)... -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/203.3198 (m) -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Effective Feature Requesting (Was: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!)
For the people who complain it doesn't have XXX feature, did you only notice this after your free 30 day trial period was over? There really is no logical reason someone can complain they bought the product but can't use it effectively because it didn't have XXX. For those who sent Yojimbo to the trash because it didn't have XXX, what product did you move to instead? What was it lacking that Yojimbo has? Did you tell the developers of that product you were going to trash it because it didn't have YYY that Yojimbo did? I would love to hear the success stories of people who trashed Yojimbo because something was better. My point is, no one has any excuse to say they didn't know Yojimbo couldn't meet their needs before buying it, and that any one product will meet every feature they demand^H^H^H^H^H^Hrequest. Scott -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Lists like these are easy places for people who are very happy with an program to start building wish lists and even discuss shortcomings and workarounds. I don't think the people on this list are unhappy with Yojimbo in anyway. Really, how can they be? It is an excellent program and one that I recommend to anyone who asks. Any many who don't. I follow the GTD methodology quite seriously but as it is stated clearly, everyone needs to make their own system for Getting Things Done. Mr. Allen explains his reasonings and methods but everyone needs to look at themselves and the work and figure out how to make it work for them. I use just one program for my GTD system and it is Yojimbo. It is not designed for this, but it provides everything I need to make my own version work. I own other tools such as Omnifocus, and have run with Thinking Rock, Tasks and others for awhile, but they did not work for me because I needed a bit more control over the system. At the end of the day though, within Yojimbo I could use nested folders for more organizing. It is one of two features that could be added that would be of great value. I don't 'need' them, but would sure use them. It is not a make or break feature, but one that I would sing out for joy if it were added. And to clarify, my system is not waaay to complicated :-) If you give someone folders it is natural for them to want to put them into drawers or boxes or other folders. That is what a folder is, a collection of things. I don't have 100 loose folders lying around my actual physical desk. I have them organized in groups and categories in a drawer and on an organizer. Asking Barebones to take this pretty standard methodology for grouping items together is not a stretch or a failing in anyones system. You don't have to use it, it may be somewhat archaic when you have search, and tags and labels, but it is also simple and clean and comfortable to many people. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
It's partly inertia - using what you know. The Finder has nested folders, we all understand nested folders. We understand how to use nested folders to solve a problem...ergo we ask for nested folders to solve similar problems in Yojimbo. Frankly, until I started using tags in the Finder I didn't see tags as a solution to a problem - I saw them as solutions in search of a problem. Further, until Leopard I - and frankly until Leopard and HoudahSpot - I didn't start using tags. So seeing tags as a solution to my Yojimbo tasks took a while. But to go even one step further, Folders are more in your face and tags are more retiring and shy. (What the heck does he mean by that?) In the old Finder days I'd get or create a file and have to decide where to put it. Okay, so it is a work file - I already have a folder called work. That's easy. Hey, I have five folders inside Work and the file fits best inside Requisitions. Problem solved. New style I have to remember that I have tags called Work and Requisitions. Thankfully Yojimbo does autocompletion in the Tags Inspector which works well - if I remember that the tag was called Work as opposed to North Campus Office. Since Tags aren't in my face the way a nested folder is when I open the file selector, I have to think a little more, plan a little better, and sometimes go looking. It irritates me no end when I discover that I have half a dozen documents with one tab and a couple more with a different tab that means the same thing. Even now I'm not convinced that tabs are the logical replacement for nested folders. A useful tool, yes - but a replacement? I'm not convinced yet. But since this is the only complaint I have about Yojimbo I stick with it. However I have also let the developers know in no uncertain terms that when/if a program comes along that fits as well as Yojimbo and offers nested folders, I may well be outa here. david On May 1, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: for the people asking for nested folders, how could tags not help you instead? instead off [Some things] [Sub-Some things] you could set up tags: SomeThings SomeThings:sub1 SomeThings:sub2 Then just search on those tags? Even better, you could (creating a mess) have something in two sub folders at the same time using this method, eliminating duplicates. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Yojimbo doesn't give us nested folders, but you can work around that with creative thinking. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On May 1, 2008, at 4:28 PM, david wrote: Even now I'm not convinced that tabs are the logical replacement for nested folders. A useful tool, yes - but a replacement? I'm not convinced yet. When Yojimbo first came out I thought the lack of nested folders was a limitation. It took me a while, but I'm fully converted to the tag it and dump it all in one place method of organizing, and Yojimbo is primarily responsible for helping me see the advantages. Nested folders were once the best solution to organizing files on a computer, but now that we have very fast computers that can find things very quickly, the need for nested folders is going away. In fact, since we have such large hard drives that can store so many files, nested folders have begun to become a hindrance rather than a help in finding documents. Here's an example of the now what folder did I put that in problem. In Mail I have _one_ folder in which I store the current year's sent and received messages. When I want to find a message, I can just search, usually by subject, sender, or recipient and find the message I want in a couple of seconds. I save tons of time over when I used to have bunches of folders in which I could store emails. My father still uses the bunches of folders method, and half the time when he goes to find an email he can't find it because he can't remember which folder he put it in. Another thing I do to help me find files easily is giving them very descriptive file names, both in Yojimbo and in the Finder. For instance, a receipt from LL Bean might be named: LL Bean - 2008.04.21 - Shirts for Spring and tagged receipts. Or an article I downloaded from New Scientist might be named: Do we read too much into our need for sleep? - being-human - 15 March 2008 - New Scientist and tagged appropriately. I'd say 80% of the time I search on a file name to find what I'm looking for. As you noted, I think inertia keeps most people thinking they have to keep their file names under 32 characters. My goal is to name files so that not only I know what's in them, but so that anyone that looked at a file on my computer would know what's in it based on the name. I believe that if people gave their files good descriptive names, the fuss about tagging vs. nested folders would nearly be a non-issue. All IMHO of course. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I love Yojimbo as it is too! Perhaps it needs to say at the top of the viewer window, Not a replacement for Finder.app :-) -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Yojimbo is nice but i thought about migrating to other applications as well because of the backup-issue. But I even refrained from testing other apps because I have absolutely no idea how I get all my data with meta-data (tags, urls) from yojimbo into other apps. How would you solve it when you would decide to move? But that problem occours with all of the applications out there - no good import filters from other similar apps Niels On 4/30/08, Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I even refrained from testing other apps because I have absolutely no idea how I get all my data with meta-data (tags, urls) from yojimbo into other apps. How would you solve it when you would decide to move? When I got Leap http://www.ironicsoftware.com/leap/index.html and decide to move some large PDF documents out of Yojimbo and into the Finder I used the Export with Comment Tags Applescript: http://anoved.net/2007/08/yojimbo-export-with-comment-tags.html You could probably create an Applescript to export the Yojimbo items with whatever metadata items you wanted. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On 29 Apr 2008, at 19:38, Scott J. Lopez wrote: Krzysztof, my message wasn't directed at you specificlly but in response to the many I wish Yojimbo did... messages I've seen over the years on this list. Yojimbo is a nice, small application that was meant for organizing some specific types of data. It's fast, it's lean, and it just works. I remember when BBEdit was a small lean application that grew and grew over the years into a very powerful IDE. It grew so large that BareBones decided to release TextWrangler (another great product) to bring back a small, lean text editor. Some of us don't need all the power of BBEdit, and some of us don't need Yojimbo to edit PDF files, graphics, store video, manage my todo's, manage my files, develop web sites, blog, upload, download, and many of the other requests I've seen here. I'm sure if the developers took all time to add all these featuers it would take years of man-power and the price would skyrocket. I am just posting a reminder to Bare Bones that your product is well appreciated as is! Maybe there are some others out there like me? Oh, it certainly is appreciated - I have been using Yojimbo for just over two years now, and it's one of the few applications on the Mac that I have used consistently for all that time. (During that time I have gotten used to the idea that there are unlikely to ever be nested folders :) I have tried a few more general organisers which handle all sorts of files and I find that they actually slow me down - I would rather just know where my project directories are and edit things from there, rather than have to edit, re-import, update checksums and so on. Yojimbo's excellent Applescript support means that I can do an awful lot of custom work as well. (I would very much like to have more powerful smart folders mind you, which are not just AND tag lists. I think that's in the vein of the Applescript support i.e. allowing users to set up their own filters and process things their own way if they need to.) It does take all sorts though; I know people who swear by EagleFiler, or Evernote, or plain text notes or whatever. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I totally agree. It needs to have sub-folders! Greetings, Ron Am 30.04.2008 um 09:42 schrieb Claude: Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, if anyone wants to switch to SOHO notes, Ill sell you my family pack license. Or exchange it for your family pack license for Yojimbo. I have severe buyers-remorse and wish I had bought Yojimbo instead of SOHO. dg On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Ron Kubsch wrote: I totally agree. It needs to have sub-folders! Greetings, Ron Am 30.04.2008 um 09:42 schrieb Claude: Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- David G. Simmons http://blogs.sun.com/davidgs/ 919-961-8082 ** NOTE: Message digitally signed with PGP for security and authenticity ** Public Key available for message verification The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ... is the day they start making vacuum cleaners. Program the World! http://www.SunSpotWorld.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIGIAtsYBqXm3CE3kRAv/+AKDqR3qjNrxTqIWZ+qUYRdNnBswOrwCfRQb/ saeyLuzPIJElfJ8V9bbafJU= =KQta -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I'm really glad someone spoke up for Yojimbo! (Thanks Scott) I've been getting tired of seeing this list become a dump for what people don't like about Yojimbo and move away from being a helpful resource. I have no problem with feature requests but It's been absolutely over the top in the last few months. I asked a pretty simple question just after the latest release regarding moving PDFs of images to the new Image smart collection. The question got completely lost in the sea of feature requests and was never answered. (I came up with a solution a few days later.) With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature in the next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!! I know this has been said before on this list but I’m going to repeat it. If tagging, labels, smart collections, tag collections, search, date sorting, file type sorting and folders (even if they aren’t nested), are not enough for you to organize your information then : 1. Your archiving system is waaay to complicated. In which case I would highly recommend the book “Getting Things Done” by David Allen. 2. Yojimbo just doesn’t work with your personal information management style. If you want nested folders with the ability to quickly add and retrieve then upgrade to Leopard and just use the Finder in combination with Spotlight and/or Quicksilver. Yojimbo does what it's supposed to do really, really well. Simplify the process of archiving and retrieving reference items. Bare Bones doesn't promise any more or less and they shouldn't. Read the product description : http://www.barebones.com/products/yojimbo/index.shtml and find the section on how Yojimbo is an excellent calendar, mail, blog cms, rss feed reader and alternative operating system. Did you find it? Hopefully you never will. Bare Bones, your product is AWESOME!!! Thank you for making one part of my life simple. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Good afternoon, On 30/4/08 at 5:31 PM -0400, Luis Roca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature in the next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!! How refreshing, thanks Luis. :-) I'm also another very satisfied Yojimbo user. When I first started using it, I was creating collections and diligently filing new items. I never use collections now. The search field is way more flexible and very quick. I just add items to Y and trust they will be there when I need them. The content/indexing of items is generally enough to search on (for bookmarks I will often grab the first paragraph of the page to add to comment field). And even though I was using tags religiously, I've even stopped doing that expect for rare circumstances. Yojimbo is my knowledge base, and I've never had any trouble finding info I need. Well, that's not true, I have had problems but it's my own fault for not having moved everything from DevonTHINK yet. So if it's info from that long ago, I fire up DevonTHINK, find the info I was missing, and add it to Yojimbo. And for everyone else who feels they MUST continue asking for the kitchen sink, Please read the last two lines of the sig on every message on this list. I want to use this list to learn how to better use the program we have, not speculate on how an excellent program can maybe improve marginally. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
In other words, I want to be able to have multiple self-contained library databases. You might want to try Eagle Filer: http://c-command.com/eaglefiler/ It is similar to Yojimbo but supports multiple libraries and nested folders. It also stores its data as regular files in the filesystem so you could easily copy all the files you want and give to a friend per the use case you outlined or browse your data with the Finder. Now, some comments on the recent discussions on this list... First, I'm not a Yojimbo-hater -- I've used Yojimbo since it was released and have a library with thousands of records. However, I've gotten very tired of the lack of nested folders (makes the drop dock too big), lack of true Smart Collections, lack of a read only flag, and the monolithic database as well as lack of Time Machine support. At the time that I bought Yojimbo, I extensively evaluated every digital junk drawer application for the Mac and settled on Yojimbo because of ease of use, exportability, Applescriptability, and most importantly, .Mac syncing. The only reason I've stuck with Yojimbo so far is .Mac syncing. I want my data available on multiple computers and none of Yojimbo's competitors support seamless .Mac syncing the way Yojimbo does. However, if the next paid upgrade from Yojimbo doesn't address some of those issues I mentioned (and have been mentioned by many others on this list), then I'll buy one of the competing products, most likely Eagle Filer and work around the lack of .Mac syncing (Eagle Filer can store it's library on iDisk for example). Since I use Yojimbo more than any other app on my Mac, that's not idle talk -- switching would be a big investment of time. I've got a lot of data in Yojimbo and a lot of time invested in scripts to make Yojimbo fit into my workflow. Contrary to some of the other posts on this list in the last few days, I do think Yojimbo needs some improvement and I think this list is a good place to discuss it. It's rather disheartening to see the Yojimbo fans shoot down any feature request because I like Yojimbo the way it is -- there's always room for improvement and honest dialogue by Yojimbo power-users (probably the majority of people on this list) is a good way for the developers to get feedback on what their *paying* users want. Unfortunately, what usually happens on this list is that a Yojimbo fan will tell the feature-requester to go away because Yojimbo is great the way it is and the developer won't say anything. If someone from BareBones does pipe in, it's usually to say We're never going to add that feature. See previous post... This compares poorly to several other indie-Mac software lists I'm on (such as the forum for Leap and Yep, both excellent applications: http://www.ironicsoftware.com/) where the developer is happy to get feedback on what users actually want and participates in the dialogue. Of course, not every feature can or should be added -- as someone who's written a lot of software, I hate feature bloat as much as the next guy. But I'd rather give my money to a company that listens to its users and tries to provide a product the users want instead of what the developer thinks the users *should* want. Several of my friends and colleagues use Yojimbo based on my recommendation. I think it's a useful application and a great value but I'm not sure I can continue to recommend it, for the reasons given above. I really like the application and it's simplified my life but I still find that I'm doing too much bending of my workflow to suit Yojimbo. Software is a tool that should work for me, not the other way around. Cheers, Rhet On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Jerry Weldon wrote: I'm glad there are people who like Yojimbo the way it is. I want people to buy it, because I think Bare Bones is a good company and I want it to continue to exist. However, Yojimbo is not quite adequate for my needs. I tried Yojimbo for the 30-day trial period last summer, using it to collect information for a vacation. I found it to be very useful, and a pleasure to use. It was handy to be able to store PDFs and web archives of information I wanted to come back to easily, as well as my own notes. Yojimbo was my first experience with tagging, and I found that to be useful as well. When the trial period was over, however, I did not purchase the program. Why not? Our vacation was over. I no longer needed the information immediately at hand, but neither did I want to delete it. What I really wanted was to set that library aside and start a new one for the next project or trip. I'd like to use Yojimbo to collect everything related to a particular project, and be able to store that collection with other project materials, be it on a CD in a box with other items or on a computer at a different location. Perhaps a friend would like to
Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. Maybe a few bugs need to be fixed but please don't give in to feature creep and try to make Yojimbo the kitchen sink application. I keep Yojimbo running 7x24 and don't want it to become a hog on resources. Yojimbo does what it does and does so very well. Thank you Barebones! -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On 2008-04-29, at 19:41, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. Maybe a few bugs need to be fixed but please don't give in to feature creep and try to make Yojimbo the kitchen sink application. I keep Yojimbo running 7x24 and don't want it to become a hog on resources. Yojimbo does what it does and does so very well. Thank you Barebones! Well, I am also happy with Yojimbo. It is very stable and rock solid application, but would be great to have just a little more functionality. I am not gonna say that I want to make Yojimbo kitchen sink application, but please read my post, do you think that these features would make Yojimbo so havy? It is just some tweaks around which are not tend to change the overall Yojimbo idea. Just make it more productive, that's it. All the best, -- Krzysztof Maj, JNCIP-M/T I'm a [EMAIL PROTECTED], are you still a PC? -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Krzysztof, my message wasn't directed at you specificlly but in response to the many I wish Yojimbo did... messages I've seen over the years on this list. Yojimbo is a nice, small application that was meant for organizing some specific types of data. It's fast, it's lean, and it just works. I remember when BBEdit was a small lean application that grew and grew over the years into a very powerful IDE. It grew so large that BareBones decided to release TextWrangler (another great product) to bring back a small, lean text editor. Some of us don't need all the power of BBEdit, and some of us don't need Yojimbo to edit PDF files, graphics, store video, manage my todo's, manage my files, develop web sites, blog, upload, download, and many of the other requests I've seen here. I'm sure if the developers took all time to add all these featuers it would take years of man-power and the price would skyrocket. I am just posting a reminder to Bare Bones that your product is well appreciated as is! Maybe there are some others out there like me? On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Krzysztof Maj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-04-29, at 19:41, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. Maybe a few bugs need to be fixed but please don't give in to feature creep and try to make Yojimbo the kitchen sink application. I keep Yojimbo running 7x24 and don't want it to become a hog on resources. Yojimbo does what it does and does so very well. Thank you Barebones! Well, I am also happy with Yojimbo. It is very stable and rock solid application, but would be great to have just a little more functionality. I am not gonna say that I want to make Yojimbo kitchen sink application, but please read my post, do you think that these features would make Yojimbo so havy? It is just some tweaks around which are not tend to change the overall Yojimbo idea. Just make it more productive, that's it. All the best, -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
