[zamanku] Re: 83% Muslimah Mesir korban pelecehan seksuil.

2008-11-23 Terurut Topik ttbnice
Lha yg ngeres tu sopo? Mosok si pemuda yg ga bisa kontrol napsunya, 
si cewek yg disalahin. Terus gimana soal cewek yg pulang ngaji 
diperkosa? PAstinya kan si pemuda yg punya pikiran kotor, biarpun si 
cewek pake baju ketutup. 

Terus kalo elu ke papua, biarpun ceweknya pada topless, pahanya 
kemana2, laki2nya yg berdiri cuma kotekanya doang. Jadi kan 
tergantung pribadi si laki2nya.

Ini masalah state of mind. Kalo elu terlatih ikut Tuhan, mosok 
gampang banget dinapsuin. Kalo emang pikiran orang udah kotor, UU 
kayak gimana juga ga bisa ikut campur pikiran orang. 

UU anti pelecehan, justru melindungi si cewe dari suit2. JAdi laki2 
idung belang biar sekotor apapun pikirannya, belajar untuk ga bisa 
macem2.


--- In zamanku@yahoogroups.com, tawangalun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kira2 jilbab dan bukan itu gunanya begini:
 Kalau wanita berpakaian rok mini dan dadanya mbleweh maka pas lewat
 didepan pemuda,maka mata pemuda tsb akan melotot dan dia menjawat dg
 siulnya suit suiiit.
 tapi kalau wanita berbusana brukut pakai jilbab lewat didepan
 pemuda,maka mata pemuda tsb tidak begitu melotot apalagi siul suit
 suiit ,bisa jadi malah bilang asalamualaikum.Nah malah njawatnya 
saja
 berdoa.Jadi mbok diakui bahwa busana muslim itu ibarat naik mobil
 sudah pakai sabuk pengaman.Tapi kalau tabrakannya keras yo mati juga
 sama dg yang tanpa sabuk.
 
 Shalom,
 Tawangalun.
 
 - In zamanku@yahoogroups.com, looshytta looshytta@ wrote:
 
  
  Memang benar pelecehan sexual tidak hanya terjadi pada wanita 
yang tidak
  berjilbab, pelecehan sexual bisa saja terjadi pada wanita 
berjilbab.
  Tapi hal tsb tidak berarti jilbabnya harus dibuka kan  
Pemakaian
  jilbab didasarkan pada kepatuhan untuk mengikuti tata aturan 
berpakaian
  bagi seorang muslimah bukan untuk menghindar dari pelecehan 
sexual.
  Kalau tingkah lakunya tidak Islami sehingga menimbulkan pelecehan 
sexual
  tentunya yang salah bukan jilbabnya.
  
  --- In zamanku@yahoogroups.com, gkrantau gkrantau@ wrote:
  
   DI MESIR nan Islami 83% perempuan setempat (tentunya berjilab 
ato pake
   burga) pernah dilecehkan secara seksual oleh Muslim. 98% 
perempuan
   pendatang (tourists) juga pernah mengalami pelecehan seksuil.
  
   Ternyata jilbab tidak mempan dg laki2 yg memang tidak beradab 
dan gila
   sex.
  
   Satu2nya jalan agar perempuan tidak menjadi korban pelecehan 
seksuil
   ialah dg meningkatkan harkat dan martabat kaum perempuan. Selama
   perempuan masih dianggap hina, dianggap sbg sexobject yg hala
   diperlakukan dg jahat - selama itu kaum perempuan akan terus
  dilecehkan.
  
   Gabriela Rantau
  
   Cairo teens arrested for 'flirting' November 21, 2008, 6:08 am
  
   Egyptian police have rounded up hundreds of teenage boys in 
Cairo in a
   day-long crackdown on sexual harassment.
  
   We have arrested a large number of boys who were flirting with
  girls,
   Cairo's police director Faruq Lashin said.
  
   About 400 teenagers, aged between 15 and 17, were arrested on
  Wednesday
   and will be brought before a judge, he said.
  
   Police targeted teenagers in front of schools, universities and 
along
   the Nile's banks, he said.
  
   The teenagers were expected to be fined, a police official said.
  
   Women's rights groups in Egypt have long campaigned against 
sexual
   harassment and assault in Cairo, accusing police of ignoring the
   phenomenon.
  
   On Monday, a Cairo court jailed a teenager for one year for 
sexually
   assaulting two women. Another teenager, a 17 year old, is 
facing trial
   on the same charge.
  
   At least 34 men were arrested after they allegedly assaulted 
women in
  an
   affluent Cairo neighbourhood during a Muslim holiday in January.
  
   Such convictions are relatively rare in Egypt , which does not 
have a
   law defining sexual harassment, but a court in October 
sentenced a man
   to three years in jail for groping a woman.
  
   Women's rights activists welcomed that ruling and said it was
   unprecedented in Egypt .
  
   The Egyptian Centre for Women's Rights (ECWR) issued a survey 
this
   summer saying 83 per cent of Egyptian women and 98 per cent of 
foreign
   women in Egypt had experienced sexual harassment.
  
   The study said only 12 per cent of the 2,500 women who reported 
cases
  of
   sexual harassment to ECWR went to the police with their 
complaint.
  
  
  
   Cairo teens arrested for 'flirting'
  
 





[zamanku] Re: 83% Muslimah Mesir korban pelecehan seksuil.

2008-11-21 Terurut Topik looshytta

Memang benar pelecehan sexual tidak hanya terjadi pada wanita yang tidak
berjilbab, pelecehan sexual bisa saja terjadi pada wanita berjilbab.
Tapi hal tsb tidak berarti jilbabnya harus dibuka kan  Pemakaian
jilbab didasarkan pada kepatuhan untuk mengikuti tata aturan berpakaian
bagi seorang muslimah bukan untuk menghindar dari pelecehan sexual.
Kalau tingkah lakunya tidak Islami sehingga menimbulkan pelecehan sexual
tentunya yang salah bukan jilbabnya.

--- In zamanku@yahoogroups.com, gkrantau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DI MESIR nan Islami 83% perempuan setempat (tentunya berjilab ato pake
 burga) pernah dilecehkan secara seksual oleh Muslim. 98% perempuan
 pendatang (tourists) juga pernah mengalami pelecehan seksuil.

 Ternyata jilbab tidak mempan dg laki2 yg memang tidak beradab dan gila
 sex.

 Satu2nya jalan agar perempuan tidak menjadi korban pelecehan seksuil
 ialah dg meningkatkan harkat dan martabat kaum perempuan. Selama
 perempuan masih dianggap hina, dianggap sbg sexobject yg hala
 diperlakukan dg jahat - selama itu kaum perempuan akan terus
dilecehkan.

 Gabriela Rantau

 Cairo teens arrested for 'flirting' November 21, 2008, 6:08 am

 Egyptian police have rounded up hundreds of teenage boys in Cairo in a
 day-long crackdown on sexual harassment.

 We have arrested a large number of boys who were flirting with
girls,
 Cairo's police director Faruq Lashin said.

 About 400 teenagers, aged between 15 and 17, were arrested on
Wednesday
 and will be brought before a judge, he said.

 Police targeted teenagers in front of schools, universities and along
 the Nile's banks, he said.

 The teenagers were expected to be fined, a police official said.

 Women's rights groups in Egypt have long campaigned against sexual
 harassment and assault in Cairo, accusing police of ignoring the
 phenomenon.

 On Monday, a Cairo court jailed a teenager for one year for sexually
 assaulting two women. Another teenager, a 17 year old, is facing trial
 on the same charge.

 At least 34 men were arrested after they allegedly assaulted women in
an
 affluent Cairo neighbourhood during a Muslim holiday in January.

 Such convictions are relatively rare in Egypt , which does not have a
 law defining sexual harassment, but a court in October sentenced a man
 to three years in jail for groping a woman.

 Women's rights activists welcomed that ruling and said it was
 unprecedented in Egypt .

 The Egyptian Centre for Women's Rights (ECWR) issued a survey this
 summer saying 83 per cent of Egyptian women and 98 per cent of foreign
 women in Egypt had experienced sexual harassment.

 The study said only 12 per cent of the 2,500 women who reported cases
of
 sexual harassment to ECWR went to the police with their complaint.



 Cairo teens arrested for 'flirting'





[zamanku] Re: 83% Muslimah Mesir korban pelecehan seksuil.

2008-11-21 Terurut Topik tawangalun
Kira2 jilbab dan bukan itu gunanya begini:
Kalau wanita berpakaian rok mini dan dadanya mbleweh maka pas lewat
didepan pemuda,maka mata pemuda tsb akan melotot dan dia menjawat dg
siulnya suit suiiit.
tapi kalau wanita berbusana brukut pakai jilbab lewat didepan
pemuda,maka mata pemuda tsb tidak begitu melotot apalagi siul suit
suiit ,bisa jadi malah bilang asalamualaikum.Nah malah njawatnya saja
berdoa.Jadi mbok diakui bahwa busana muslim itu ibarat naik mobil
sudah pakai sabuk pengaman.Tapi kalau tabrakannya keras yo mati juga
sama dg yang tanpa sabuk.

Shalom,
Tawangalun.

- In zamanku@yahoogroups.com, looshytta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Memang benar pelecehan sexual tidak hanya terjadi pada wanita yang tidak
 berjilbab, pelecehan sexual bisa saja terjadi pada wanita berjilbab.
 Tapi hal tsb tidak berarti jilbabnya harus dibuka kan  Pemakaian
 jilbab didasarkan pada kepatuhan untuk mengikuti tata aturan berpakaian
 bagi seorang muslimah bukan untuk menghindar dari pelecehan sexual.
 Kalau tingkah lakunya tidak Islami sehingga menimbulkan pelecehan sexual
 tentunya yang salah bukan jilbabnya.
 
 --- In zamanku@yahoogroups.com, gkrantau gkrantau@ wrote:
 
  DI MESIR nan Islami 83% perempuan setempat (tentunya berjilab ato pake
  burga) pernah dilecehkan secara seksual oleh Muslim. 98% perempuan
  pendatang (tourists) juga pernah mengalami pelecehan seksuil.
 
  Ternyata jilbab tidak mempan dg laki2 yg memang tidak beradab dan gila
  sex.
 
  Satu2nya jalan agar perempuan tidak menjadi korban pelecehan seksuil
  ialah dg meningkatkan harkat dan martabat kaum perempuan. Selama
  perempuan masih dianggap hina, dianggap sbg sexobject yg hala
  diperlakukan dg jahat - selama itu kaum perempuan akan terus
 dilecehkan.
 
  Gabriela Rantau
 
  Cairo teens arrested for 'flirting' November 21, 2008, 6:08 am
 
  Egyptian police have rounded up hundreds of teenage boys in Cairo in a
  day-long crackdown on sexual harassment.
 
  We have arrested a large number of boys who were flirting with
 girls,
  Cairo's police director Faruq Lashin said.
 
  About 400 teenagers, aged between 15 and 17, were arrested on
 Wednesday
  and will be brought before a judge, he said.
 
  Police targeted teenagers in front of schools, universities and along
  the Nile's banks, he said.
 
  The teenagers were expected to be fined, a police official said.
 
  Women's rights groups in Egypt have long campaigned against sexual
  harassment and assault in Cairo, accusing police of ignoring the
  phenomenon.
 
  On Monday, a Cairo court jailed a teenager for one year for sexually
  assaulting two women. Another teenager, a 17 year old, is facing trial
  on the same charge.
 
  At least 34 men were arrested after they allegedly assaulted women in
 an
  affluent Cairo neighbourhood during a Muslim holiday in January.
 
  Such convictions are relatively rare in Egypt , which does not have a
  law defining sexual harassment, but a court in October sentenced a man
  to three years in jail for groping a woman.
 
  Women's rights activists welcomed that ruling and said it was
  unprecedented in Egypt .
 
  The Egyptian Centre for Women's Rights (ECWR) issued a survey this
  summer saying 83 per cent of Egyptian women and 98 per cent of foreign
  women in Egypt had experienced sexual harassment.
 
  The study said only 12 per cent of the 2,500 women who reported cases
 of
  sexual harassment to ECWR went to the police with their complaint.
 
 
 
  Cairo teens arrested for 'flirting'