Thanks to Michael Golub (wo PMed me) 
I have come to realize that this is in fact the "Wolfgang's Vault" 
version of this '70 Fillmore West show. The version I have dld via 
Zappateers is a different one, 
would be nice to compare the two,
so I guess I'd better stay in here, i.e. sign back in.
Shouldn't have jumped off in the first place, LOL ...

Thanks again and sorry about the confusion.

CH

Vine update:

Guy (US) << john g in kansas (US) << SOFA (US) << Skipsign (US)  << 
Ashley H (UK) << Conehead (BE) << ??



--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Conehead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Since I have got this show by other means,
> I will hereby step out of this vine ...
> 
> Vine status therefore modified to:
> 
>  Guy (US) << john g in kansas (US) << SOFA (US) << Skipsign (US) << 
> << Ashley H (UK) << ???
> 
> Thanks & kind regards
> 
> Conehead-BE
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <getrhythm@> wrote:
> >
> > Disc received. Thanks John K. 
> > This is a great show (IMHO) and the audio quality is superb. 
> > Vaudeville shtick notwithstanding (whatever the fuck that means), 
I 
> > love this era of The Mothers, and George and Ian and Aynsley and 
> > Frank and even Jeff play great here. Too bad it ends prematurely. 
I 
> > saw them one week later (11/13, my first Frank show) at the 
Fillmore 
> > East (photos of program are in the photo section here) and I 
> > remember the audience not responding at all after "Penis 
Dimension" 
> > and Frank getting pissed and walking off stage and being 
> > cajoled/pushed back out on stage(by Herbie Cohen?/Bill Graham?).
> > Anyway...
> > I'll send this out to John G in Kansas in a day or two.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Nokeating4@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Sending this out tomorrow to Guy.
> > >  
> > > John K 
> > >  
> > > Guy (US) << john g in kansas (US) << SOFA (US) << Skipsign (US) 
<< 
> > Conehead (BE) << Ashley H (UK) << ???
> > >  
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nokeating4@
> > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:15 PM
> > > Subject: [Zappa-List] VO: MOI Fillmore West 11-06-70 (Audio CD)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > OK - Sorry for the delay, but I was listening to this disc and 
> > heard one edit between tracks that I wanted to fix. 
> > >  
> > > So, I'm ready to send this off - Guy, send me your address.
> > >  
> > > John K
> > >  
> > > John K (US) << Guy (US) << john g in kansas (US) << SOFA (US) << 
> > Skipsign (US) << Conehead (BE) << Ashley H (UK) << ???
> > >  
> > >  
> > > **********************************
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Mothers of Invention
> > >  
> > > Fillmore West
> > > San Francisco, CA
> > > 11/06/1970
> > >  
> > > # of Tracks: 15
> > > Total Time:  63:49
> > >  
> > > Have Gun, Will Travel  1:34
> > > Call Any Vegetable  10:34
> > > The Sanzini Brothers 2:02
> > > Penis Dimension  8:05
> > > The Sanzini Brothers  2:20
> > > Little House I Used to Live In/Mudshark  4:57
> > > Touring Can Make You Crazy  2:14
> > > Would You Like a Snack?  1:39
> > > Holiday in Berlin  4:07
> > > Cruisin’ For Burgers  8:47
> > > Easy Meat  5:19
> > > **Frank talks to the crowd…** 1:53
> > > Daddy, Daddy, Daddy/
> > > Do You Like My New Car?  7:24
> > > Happy Together  1:07
> > > Who Are The Brain Police?  1:47
> > >  
> > > George Duke - keyboards
> > > Aynsley Dunbar - drums
> > > Howard Kaylan - vocals
> > > Jim Pons - bass (actually Jeff Simmons)
> > > Mark Volman - vocals
> > > Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
> > > 
> > > Like a tidal wave of total weirdness, the Mothers of Invention 
> > splashed down on the Fillmore West for a series of shows in 
November 
> > of 1970 before washing back into the seedy ocean of L.A., leaving 
> > the landscape forever changed (or at least confused and offended). 
> > > 
> > > Not to be outdone by the art school drop-outs and buck-skin 
fringe 
> > contingent then wandering the Sunset Strip, Frank Zappa had been 
> > steadily releasing incredibly strange records since the mid-‘
60s. 
> > He abandoned the original Mothers at the close of that decade, 
only 
> > to reform a different line-up under the same name in 1970, this 
time 
> > including two members of the Turtles, Howard Kaylan and Mark 
Volman 
> > (sometimes known as Flo & Eddie due to contractual problems), to 
> > help with Frank’s increasingly bizarre comedy routines and, 
almost 
> > incidentally, singing.
> > > 
> > > The opening set by Boz Scaggs couldn’t possibly have prepared 
> > anyone for what was going to occur that night at the corner of Van 
> > Ness and Market, though it did prove that Bill Graham had a pretty 
> > good sense of humor. Eager to try out material from the upcoming 
200 
> > Motels film and accompanying album, the Mothers don’t move in 
any 
> > one direction for too long; sometimes it’s as if they’re 
moving 
> > in all directions at once. There are hints of jazz-fusion and 
> > psychedelia, along with Zappa’s beloved doo-wop. They even make 
a 
> > brief stab at the Turtles’ "Happy Together" as part of the 
> groupie-
> > baiting sleaze-fest "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy." This is a limber bunch, 
> > but they’re at their best when playing it straight ("Call Any 
> > Vegetable" from Absolutely Free is a prime example). Some songs 
are 
> > derailed by excessive hollering and dialogue, the delivery of 
which 
> > suggests the performers are nearly as bored as the audience 
> > they’re baffling. Provoking the crowd, however, is part of the 
> > plan and listening to Frank scold them for their indifference is 
> > highly satisfying for anyone who’s ever stood under stage 
lights. 
> > > 
> > > An appreciation for this performance depends entirely on one’s 
> > threshold for long and noodly instrumental explorations accented 
by 
> > dick jokes. But it can safely be said that no one else was doing 
> > anything quite like this at the time. During an age of weird, 
Frank 
> > Zappa had the distinction of being the unparalleled weirdest.
> > > 
> > >
>




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